Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:09 am

Merkin wrote:Jesus, just chicken scratch money.

Who says the payments were over with? Better question: Why does Book? Plus, it's not just about Book.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:11 am

Listen in. Graphics and everything. How thoughtful.

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Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:13 am

LOL at all the chicken littles. You would be terrible going to war with, run the other way from the enemy.

Support Arizona, Miller through this 100%. Get it!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:15 am

Yeah, we are talking about book getting $15-20k up front and $5,000 a month thereafter. $60k a year for just one coach. And you know once Book delivered multiple guys and these agencies take off, that $5k a month goes up. Word gets around and more top level schools become involved. And we all know this shit has been pervasive in NCAA football and basketball for a long time, millions of dollars trading hands every year. This is one docket involving one conspiracy. We will likely see another/others involving different players. That is why the FBI is involved.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:16 am

"Circling blue chip prospects like coyotes."

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:17 am

SCCats wrote:Bilas just said something to this effect on ESPN: This *seems* to primarily be actions taken by some to benefit agents.

I just caught the tail end of it, but I'll try to find a video (segment just ended at 9:03 am)

He said that he didnt get to read the whole report but that the schools may not be penalized as much as everyone thinks considering they are Nike schools but this was an issue with Adidas and outside agents.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:18 am

Ban Rise and Fire.

And where is the FBi over bundlers at SEC football schools.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:19 am

"I can definitely mold the players and put them in your laps." -- Tony Bland

NorCalCat · Post by **NorCalCat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:21 am

This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:22 am

"A simple Google search (by coaches)" would've showed that the financial advisers were shady. Never asked about credentials or expertise.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:22 am

Where's the "Fire Book" thread?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:23 am

wyo-cat wrote:Where's the "Fire Book" thread?

We won't need it, he is gone

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:23 am

NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.

Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:23 am

wyo-cat wrote:Where's the "Fire Book" thread?

Do you need to fire someone that is in prison?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:24 am

These 4 coaches not only breached obligations to schools....also committed federal crimes.

That's the difference...Book is looking at jail time. Not just losing his job.

I wonder what he knows and what he will say to avoid that.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:25 am

jsbowl16 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:Where's the "Fire Book" thread?
Do you need to fire someone that is in prison?

Exactly.

NorCalCat · Post by **NorCalCat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:26 am

threenumberones wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.
Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?

Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:26 am

Well if Miller survives this we won't have to worry about him going to UNC

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:26 am

Feel really bad for Miller if he was betrayed so badly by Book. Don't throw him into the mess until facts reveal otherwise. Right now, he is a victim.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:27 am

So who will be gone after the dust settles?

1. Book
2. Miller?
3. Quinerly?
4. ???

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:29 am

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:29 am

I am wondering what Adidas schools were involved.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:30 am

They all but named Quinnerly in the court docs on page 50/51. Another recruit for next season as well as 2 current players

I always had a problem with Book. So that leave of absence 2-3 years ago was what? Leaking info or caught giving benefits?

At this point I dont see how we keep Quinnerly. A post season ban this year and next is possible and we may also lose a couple starters this season

Greg Byrne is so glad he left...

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:30 am

NorCalCat wrote:
threenumberones wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.
Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?
Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference.

Not to comment on the underlying allegations, but this is my reading of the allegation as well. That this was Book taking $ to push Arizona players to this agency. This reads like it wasn't done for Arizona's benefit at all, but just extra cash for Book.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:31 am

Sounds like this is limited in scope, no further schools or people implicated.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:31 am

Olsondogg wrote:These 4 coaches not only breached obligations to schools....also committed federal crimes.

That's the difference...Book is looking at jail time. Not just losing his job.

I wonder what he knows and what he will say to avoid that.

What federal crimes did they break? Or trying to be obtuse, I genuinely don't know. Racketeering?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:32 am

NYCat wrote:Well if Miller survives this we won't have to worry about him going to UNC

This post wins the day! True.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:32 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:
threenumberones wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.
Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?
Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference.
Not to comment on the underlying allegations, but this is my reading of the allegation as well. That this was Book taking $ to push Arizona players to this agency. This reads like it wasn't done for Arizona's benefit at all, but just extra cash for Book.

Seems best-case. Also explains why a Nike school would be involved. Still don't get that part, unless it's Book out for himself.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am

jsbowl16 wrote:I am wondering what Adidas schools were involved.

That's what is weird to me. 3 Nike schools and an Under Armor school so far and yet the core of the conspiracy seems to involve Adidas. Was it quid pro quo? We'll let you get the guys your school wants if you push these other guys to us? Clearly some big puzzle pieces are yet to come.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am

NorCalCat wrote:
threenumberones wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.
Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?

Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference.

Quinnerly's mom got at least $15k, per the complaint.

NorCalCat · Post by **NorCalCat** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am

I'd rather be Arizona than Louisville right now.

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am

NorCalCat wrote:
threenumberones wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.
Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?

Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference.

Oh, thanks. Certainly does.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am

CalStateTempe wrote:Ban Rise and Fire.

And where is the FBi over bundlers at SEC football schools.

I think football is bigger picture here

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:34 am

NYCat wrote:

Again but they won't touch bama or auburn despite the media having quite laid out the bundled network in articles over the past few years.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:35 am

Olsondogg wrote:
I wonder what he knows and what he will say to avoid that.

The million dollar question.. The good news, Book is from the hood where you are taught from a very early age "no snitching."

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:36 am

AG: Schools are the victims in that they hired these coaches. And got players that they thought were certified and good to go as amateurs.

Seems best-case is we lose the players we thought were amateurs. Worst-case would come from NCAA.

NCAA found out today.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:36 am

that press conference was mad corny lmao

also the dude said that the colleges were the victims, yeah ok buddy

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:37 am

SunnyAZ wrote:that press conference was mad corny lmao

That giant basketball science board was a nice touch

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:37 am

rgdeuce wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:
threenumberones wrote:
NorCalCat wrote:This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far.
Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be?

Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference.
Quinnerly's mom got at least $15k, per the complaint.

This is what concerns me, if a player or family receives cash through their associate with Arizona/book than that is what the NCAA will look askew at. It's more the than come to Arizona and we'll give you this agent when your are done. Right?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:38 am

CalStateTempe wrote:
NYCat wrote:
Again but they won't touch bama or auburn despite the media having quite laid out the bundled network in articles over the past few years.

SEC = Securities and Exchange Commission.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:38 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Well we all knew Miller being coach and Arizona being good would end sometime. Here's looking forward to an NCAA death penalty.

so it went from almost certain death penalty...

ASUHATER! wrote:If this stuff is true we're looking at a mini death penalty type situation.

to mini death penalty

ASUHATER! wrote:If Miller has any knowledge if anything going on and wasn't immediately working hand in hand with FBI and NCAA investigators he needs to be fired tomorrow

to fire Coach Miller immediately

none of the three will happen

none

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:39 am

No administrators implicated.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:40 am

With a mother asking for cash, I wonder how widespread the problem really is?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:41 am

If coaches had searched internet for cooperating witness, would've seen he's a crook.

So f*cking dumb.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:41 am

Did we win the press conference?!?

Edit:music to my ears 97.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:41 am

Thanks for the clarification gumby.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:42 am

Makes me wonder who tipped the FBI off? Calipari?

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:42 am

84Cat wrote:So who will be gone after the dust settles?

1. Book
2. Miller?
3. Quinerly?
4. ???

Unless you see an complaint or indictment filed charging Miller, he isn't going anywhere. Book is obviously gone, Quinerly will be ruled ineligible by the NCAA, as his mother received payment via the coconspirators. Doesn't look like any other money was given to current players, it at least is not in the complaint. Without evidence (ie a signed contract, which likely does not exist because they are still in school and it was likely just a verbal agreement/conversation involving the parent/handler and not the player) for the agents' services, the unnamed Wildcats (besides Quinnerly) are likely in the clear in terms of eligibility you would think.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:42 am

Someone should post a thread welcoming all the new visitors, something like 260 guests currently.

Let's make something of this tragedy.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:43 am

Merkin wrote:With a mother asking for cash, I wonder how widespread the problem really is?

A Mother's Program. That player is gone.

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