Allonzo Trier

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:19 pm

Never disrespect the non-verbal Trier tweet.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:32 pm

To me outside of the Michigan State win in the Final Four and the Duke win in the Sweet 16, this is the greatest day so far for me as a Wildcat.

Amazing

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:46 pm

Newportcat wrote:To me outside of the Michigan State win in the Final Four and the Duke win in the Sweet 16, this is the greatest day so far for me as a Wildcat.

Amazing

I was just having the same conversation with old AZ friends.

This has to be the greatest day in AZ history, when no actual game was played.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:47 pm

97cats wrote:stay with me people...stay with me

NINETY SEVEN YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:51 pm

WildHolcs wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Wow. Is it possible to win a championship without actually winning a championship? That's what today feels like.
I just said to my buddy pretty much the same exact thing.

Im gonna need you guys to issue a correction, because we CAN win a championship tonight.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:54 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
97cats wrote:stay with me people...stay with me
NINETY SEVEN YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD

OSCat · Post by **OSCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 pm

what a beautiful day

SandwichGuy · Post by **SandwichGuy** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:59 pm

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:01 pm

Throw it back at 'em U of A #Beardown!

George Costanza · Post by **George Costanza** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:06 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
prh wrote:So....any movement here?
If that press conference is followed by Trier being back, it's definitely going to move.

walk-on-wildcat · Post by **walk-on-wildcat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:25 pm

I’m gonna wear all my jerseys at the same time tonight over my NC shirt. I took a break after a near heart attack and now Zo is free? I’m gonna run some sprints! Gato Salvaje has our backs! Oh my.

Siempre Verde · Post by **Siempre Verde** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:37 pm

SandwichGuy wrote:

Holy Moses, this is a beautiful thing.

jajoyce · Post by **jajoyce** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:37 pm

What’s going on between Trier and Rawle. The fight over the rebound-trier got it and Rawle wasn’t happy and trier just kept walking away. Next possession on defense trier falls down and rawle doesn’t help him up. Maybe I am over analyzing, but something doesn’t seem right.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:39 pm

That is what I saw. Crazy.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:01 pm

I missed that, what was the minute mark?

jajoyce · Post by **jajoyce** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:20 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:I missed that, what was the minute mark?

Sub 30 second mark in second half according to play by play.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:55 pm

It's fine! -Bill Walton

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:02 am

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:That is what I saw. Crazy.

I saw it too. Something is definitely up with those two.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:46 am

Rawle wanted that 10th rebound maybe? Guessing Miller treats any wing that gets 10 in a game to Dairy Queen.

prh · Post by **prh** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:46 am

To be honest, since that's a fouling situation, I want Zo to take the ball out of anyone else's hands. Ayton was cold from the line last night and Rawle has been shaky of late as well.

DkuruptCAT · Post by **DkuruptCAT** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:39 am

Rawle got burnt multiple times on D... He either isnt 100% with the foot or something isnt right with his hustle...

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:46 am

DkuruptCAT wrote:Rawle got burnt multiple times on D... He either isnt 100% with the foot or something isnt right with his hustle...

Been an issue all year. Could be the foot (timid). He's been cheating to his man's strong hand side quite a bit this year, which tells me something. If you jab step strong hand side and then go weak hand side with your dribble most players can burn him every time.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:52 am

Appears to be Solomon Hill - Mark Lyons part 2.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:58 am

If it isn't his foot still giving him problems, if he is 100% healthy, it sure doesn't look like he is NBA-ready.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:02 am

I'd advise against over-analyzing the team, in any aspect, during the course of the last week...there were raw emotions all throughout McKale yesterday. Don't know if it's ever felt that way, to me, before.

PennZona20 · Post by **PennZona20** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:36 pm

Honestly, Rawle doesn’t need to be fighting over alpha dog. He’s been pretty inconsistent lately and sometimes flat out bad. We all want Trier shooting FTs at any late game moment. He’s as automatic as they get.

I love Rawle but he needs to get his shit together by tourney, we need him as the glue guy and X factor if we want to make a run at a FF.

Honestly i think Dusan has been our 3rd best player of the past month. Rawle needs to take that back w Dusan keeping his level of play at this level.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:37 pm

PennZona20 wrote:Honestly, Rawle doesn’t need to be fighting over alpha dog. He’s been pretty inconsistent lately and sometimes flat out bad. We all want Trier shooting FTs at any late game moment. He’s as automatic as they get.

I love Rawle but he needs to get his shit together by tourney, we need him as the glue guy and X factor if we want to make a run at a FF.

Honestly i think Dusan has been our 3rd best player of the past month. Rawle needs to take that back w Dusan keeping his level of play at this level.

Rawle wanted his 10th board.

Rawle won that game at Oregon State.

Don't rag on Rawle.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:47 pm

Disappointing that he didn’t make the final 5 for the jerry west award. Allen has no business making that list.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:53 pm

Frybry02 wrote:Disappointing that he didn’t make the final 5 for the jerry west award. Allen has no business making that list.

Allen is a name. It is disappointing bc he's been basically a less consistent version of Trier.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pl ... elog/2018/" target="_blank

But Duke, though.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:26 pm

This is fucking insane.

Trier left off of ALL of the All American lists, including the honorable mentions, as well as the Jerry West finalist list.

There's a zero percent chance that he's being judged on his performance on the court. He's being punished.

I wonder when voting ended and if it was during the time that he was suspended and articles saying his appeal was "nearly impossible" and "highly unlikely" were being published.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:30 pm

He did have PEDs in his system, and thus any award would be tainted.

But I don't think he really gives a shit about awards, win a bunch of games in the tourney and move on, and leave the NCAA behind him for good.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:34 pm

Merkin wrote:He did have PEDs in his system, and thus any award would be tainted.

But I don't think he really gives a shit about awards, win a bunch of games in the tourney and move on, and leave the NCAA behind him for good.

He 100% cares. He's posted several times this morning on Twitter in disbelief.

Also: the PED case was appealed and overturned. If the reason he's being held off of lists is because of a case that has been dismissed - I'd love to hear that from someone in the position to know.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:54 pm

Power Six conference guards with >67% True Shooting, >500pts scored, and >130 ORtg since 2009...

Lonzo Ball
Allonzo Trier

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:01 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
Merkin wrote:He did have PEDs in his system, and thus any award would be tainted.

But I don't think he really gives a shit about awards, win a bunch of games in the tourney and move on, and leave the NCAA behind him for good.
He 100% cares. He's posted several times this morning on Twitter in disbelief.

Also: the PED case was appealed and overturned. If the reason he's being held off of lists is because of a case that has been dismissed - I'd love to hear that from someone in the position to know.

I stand corrected!

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:27 pm

Just more fuel for the AZ tourney fire

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:28 pm

Seems a bit vain no?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:31 pm

Use this as fuel young fellow.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:34 pm

azgreg wrote:Seems a bit vain no?

He worked his ass off - he deserves the recognition.

If Deandre Ayton got left off of the list, would we care?

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:54 pm

Not saying it is fair or correct or deserved but the god-awful stat line against Cal probably made him fodder for removal.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:36 pm

splitsecond wrote:Not saying it is fair or correct or deserved but the god-awful stat line against Cal probably made him fodder for removal.

One bad game that was of no consequence shouldn't drop a player from ALL of the national lists.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:37 pm

Predictably I'm beside myself and everyone else is just "well we never liked Trier anyways."

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:53 pm

Schlabach's reporting thinks this is total bullshit

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:55 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Predictably I'm beside myself and everyone else is just "well we never liked Trier anyways."

My belief is that the PED issue is 100% responsible for him not being on the lists. Nothing to do with liking him or not.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:09 pm

This is horrible. The voters should be ashamed of themselves for punishing a student athlete who was already cleared.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:15 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:This is fucking insane.

Trier left off of ALL of the All American lists, including the honorable mentions, as well as the Jerry West finalist list.

There's a zero percent chance that he's being judged on his performance on the court. He's being punished.

I wonder when voting ended and if it was during the time that he was suspended and articles saying his appeal was "nearly impossible" and "highly unlikely" were being published.

Wouldnt doubt it at this point. Trier is easily one of the 10 best players in CBB. He fits that mold if you only look at the numbers too. His consistency and efficiency dwarf so many of the guys chosen ahead of him. Fuckin joke.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:22 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
Merkin wrote:He did have PEDs in his system, and thus any award would be tainted.

But I don't think he really gives a shit about awards, win a bunch of games in the tourney and move on, and leave the NCAA behind him for good.
He 100% cares. He's posted several times this morning on Twitter in disbelief.

Also: the PED case was appealed and overturned. If the reason he's being held off of lists is because of a case that has been dismissed - I'd love to hear that from someone in the position to know.

It is utterly illogical to punish him for PED's when anyone who understands anything about PED's knows this was about a year and a half after it could possibly have been physically active.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:38 pm

Am I the only one who tears up at One Shining Moment? Who are these people who punish deserving student athletes?

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:42 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Predictably I'm beside myself and everyone else is just "well we never liked Trier anyways."

Total farce. He's absolutely All-American worthy. Dude has been in the top 10 of all Power 5 Conference players in high usage efficiency nearly the entire freaking season (I haven't checked the last few weeks).

Phylek · Post by **Phylek** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:45 pm

Absolutely deserving, but not featured on ESPN, in positive ways, enough.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:50 pm

TucsonClip wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Predictably I'm beside myself and everyone else is just "well we never liked Trier anyways."
Total farce. He's absolutely All-American worthy. Dude has been in the top 10 of all Power 5 Conference players in high usage efficiency nearly the entire freaking season (I haven't checked the last few weeks).

Ending the season with a >130 ORtg on >24% usage. 67% true shooting. Put up 19 / 3 / 3 on 50 /40 / 85 shooting.

The inclusion of Evans and Blueitt and ESPECIALLY Grayson Allen over Trier makes me physically sick.

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