Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Moderators: UAdevil, JMarkJohns

User avatar
KillerKlown
Posts: 1094
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:55 pm
Reputation: 206
Location: South Tucson

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by KillerKlown »

UAEebs86 wrote:
The only thing more outrageous here is Jason's battery. :D
Mike Luke's burner account.
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46565
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3935
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Chicat »

Oh my god, the courage to screenshot something at 1% battery is something magnificent to behold.

Schlabach probably plugs in at 83%.


PS - Scheer is doing work.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8707
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1161

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by ChooChooCat »

I love the rhetoric from the media is that Miller's job isn't safe. Nobody's job is safe FFS. If there's incriminating evidence found of course Miller will be fired. Until then there's nothing and it's just a rhetoric that ESPN needs to continue to spin and the Arizona media is more than happy to help them push that narrative because it draws clicks.

Such a colossal waste of time. Bring on the season. Fuck ESPN and the Arizona media.
User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11660
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 231
Location: t-town

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by scumdevils86 »

Chicat wrote:Oh my god, the courage to screenshot something at 1% battery is something magnificent to behold.

Schlabach probably plugs in at 83%.


PS - Scheer is doing work.
:lol: preach
catgrad97
Posts: 5661
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:06 pm
Reputation: 28

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by catgrad97 »

Guaranteed Schlabach will try to sue Scheer someday over that text and call it "gotcha journalism".

Regardless, Scheer keeps shedding the light on the ugly truth that is Bristol "ethics." ESPN is married to Disney, and the conglomerate is calling the shots throughout this story. Making it clear who the sacred cows are in the process.

The next ESPN rep who comes to Tucson to talk Arizona basketball should just be referred to Scheer. Even the Phoenix media have been more or less Bristol bagboys reporting this nonsense.

Vitale, in particular, has devolved to the Squealer (read: Animal Farm) of sports journalism. And that's pretty asswipey status.
User avatar
Irish27
Posts: 4793
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:30 pm
Reputation: 361

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Irish27 »

2019 & 2021 Basketball RAP Winner/2022 Football RAP Winner
Beachcat97
Posts: 8591
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 470
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Beachcat97 »

I wonder if Penis Vitale knows we have the #2 recruiting class in the country for next year.
PennZona20
Posts: 630
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:14 pm
Reputation: 4

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by PennZona20 »

goslingswagg wrote:Jefe - I will absolutely do a dri-fit version of that shirt.
Same. XXL and tell me where to send the $
cats101
Posts: 1035
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:48 pm
Reputation: 12
Location: Washington, DC

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by cats101 »

Chicat wrote:Oh my god, the courage to screenshot something at 1% battery is something magnificent to behold.

Schlabach probably plugs in at 83%.


PS - Scheer is doing work.
This is hilarious, and I kid you not, my phone is at 83% and I'm about to plug it in. :lol: To be fair, I'm about to get ready for work and I like my phone fully charged when I leave. Damn thing barely last all day anymore.

Besides ESPNs agenda being bright as day, I have nothing else to add here.
Spaceman Spiff
Posts: 14664
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:28 am
Reputation: 1150

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Spaceman Spiff »

Beachcat97 wrote:I wonder if Penis Vitale knows we have the #2 recruiting class in the country for next year.
What do you think he's trying to derail?
Image
MountainCat
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:08 am
Reputation: 130

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by MountainCat »

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I wonder if Penis Vitale knows we have the #2 recruiting class in the country for next year.
What do you think he's trying to derail?
Yeah Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, ...... all want our recruits. ESPN to the rescue.
No Bandwagon Here! Always a Cat!
User avatar
Gilbertcat
Posts: 982
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Gilbertcat »

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... lways-show" target="_blank

67 "Paragraphs", 4 of them briefly mention his FBI issues but they are quick to point out that Duke fully vetted him and he is good to go, nothing to see.....................
Beachcat97
Posts: 8591
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 470
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Beachcat97 »

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I wonder if Penis Vitale knows we have the #2 recruiting class in the country for next year.
What do you think he's trying to derail?
Damn. If that's true, I'm actually surprised the university isn't pushing back more on this smear campaign.
midnightx
Posts: 574
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:33 am
Reputation: 40

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by midnightx »

Gilbertcat wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... lways-show

67 "Paragraphs", 4 of them briefly mention his FBI issues but they are quick to point out that Duke fully vetted him and he is good to go, nothing to see.....................
Duke "vetted" him, well, there you have it, nothing left to see or question. Time to move on. :roll:
DrWildcat
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:56 pm
Reputation: 78
Location: Madison, AL

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by DrWildcat »

midnightx wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... lways-show

67 "Paragraphs", 4 of them briefly mention his FBI issues but they are quick to point out that Duke fully vetted him and he is good to go, nothing to see.....................
Duke "vetted" him, well, there you have it, nothing left to see or question. Time to move on. :roll:
What a great fluff piece on why Zion is so good. This is the part that bothers me so much. We get killed, some of it is warranted since we are involved, while others don't even get mentioned or if they do, it is a passing line in an article about how great they are. I'm just ready for this cloud to be gone, but I guess we have to wait until after Book's trial and then possibly NCAA stuff.
User avatar
Jefe
Posts: 4932
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:29 am
Reputation: 154

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Jefe »

PennZona20 wrote:Same. XXL and tell me where to send the $
Message sent!
User avatar
phxcat23
Posts: 400
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:26 pm
Reputation: 102

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by phxcat23 »

Hopefully the special meeting was to look at how to sue the shit out of ESPN.
Beachcat97
Posts: 8591
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 470
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Beachcat97 »

Gee, I wonder what the "state of the union" talking points on AZ are going to be during the Maui Invitational.
User avatar
YoDeFoe
Posts: 3276
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:35 am
Reputation: 476
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Contact:

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by YoDeFoe »

phxcat23 wrote:Hopefully the special meeting was to look at how to sue the shit out of ESPN.
:!:
azcat49
Posts: 11306
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:33 pm
Reputation: 1030
Location: Gilbert Az

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by azcat49 »

Better yet if the cats win we can watch Bilas interview Miller. I hope the team plays out of their mind and grants Miller an audience with ESPIN'S worst
Waiting at the Rose Bowl patiently for the cats to arrive
"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more wildcat sports"
2019 BDW Survivor Pool Champion
User avatar
phxcat23
Posts: 400
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:26 pm
Reputation: 102

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by phxcat23 »

Image

And then sue the shit out of ESPN after MIller comes out and tells them he was aiding the FBI
User avatar
Irish27
Posts: 4793
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:30 pm
Reputation: 361

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Irish27 »

2019 & 2021 Basketball RAP Winner/2022 Football RAP Winner
midnightx
Posts: 574
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:33 am
Reputation: 40

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by midnightx »

The barrage of reports from ESPN and tweets from Vitale are really alarming — all the information from the trial that was revealed predominantly focused on other programs, yet the aftermath is all Arizona on ESPN. It seems like every couple of days there is another Arizona headline on ESPN based on innuendo and unsubstantiated information to continue to promote the appearance of instability and corruption. One hopes the recruiting class is not impacted by all of this crap. Seriously, what the f**k is wrong with ESPN?
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46565
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3935
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Chicat »

They love the clicks.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
User avatar
84Cat
Posts: 19755
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:17 pm
Reputation: 1069
Location: Boise

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by 84Cat »

What is ESPN? I thought that site died. I haven't been there in forever
User avatar
ghostwhitehorse
Posts: 15904
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:29 pm
Reputation: 166
Location: Jupiter Trojan: 3317 Paris

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by ghostwhitehorse »

Chicat wrote:They love the clicks.
That. . . and trying to hide the fact they are a Duke (NC, Kansas, other non-west coast U) recruiting agency. Pay no attention to the rat behind the curtain!
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46565
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3935
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Chicat »

ghostwhitehorse wrote:
Chicat wrote:They love the clicks.
That. . . and trying to hide the fact they are a Duke (NC, Kansas, other non-west coast U) recruiting agency. Pay no attention to the rat behind the curtain!
I think we all know that if Schlabach got a tip that Coach K was on FBI wiretap talking about $100k for Justise Winslow, there’s no way that article in its original form would have ever seen the light of day.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
midnightx
Posts: 574
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:33 am
Reputation: 40

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by midnightx »

Chicat wrote:
ghostwhitehorse wrote:
Chicat wrote:They love the clicks.
That. . . and trying to hide the fact they are a Duke (NC, Kansas, other non-west coast U) recruiting agency. Pay no attention to the rat behind the curtain!
I think we all know that if Schlabach got a tip that Coach K was on FBI wiretap talking about $100k for Justise Winslow, there’s no way that article in its original form would have ever seen the light of day.
It was vetted. ;)
Newportcat
Posts: 2439
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:43 am
Reputation: 1

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Newportcat »

In case anyone didn’t know the way we have the regent system for our university is fucking beyond awful

We should have a board of trustees specific to our university that oversees the president
2004 First Team All American Football Poster as voted on by GOAZCATS
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Longhorned »

Newportcat wrote:In case anyone didn’t know the way we have the regent system for our university is fucking beyond awful

We should have a board of trustees specific to our university that oversees the president
Why is there one board of regents for three universities? I'm used to the president presiding over all the campuses of a single university, and answering to one board. Not even New Mexico has one board of regents for UNM, NM State, etc. Each has its own.
User avatar
rgdeuce
Posts: 4603
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:52 am
Reputation: 1
Location: Oral Valley, AZ

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by rgdeuce »

Why is no one asking why ESPN continues its all-out assault on CSM/Arizona?
PHXCATS
Posts: 6990
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:29 pm
Reputation: -63

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by PHXCATS »

rgdeuce wrote:Why is no one asking why ESPN continues its all-out assault on CSM/Arizona?
You are looking in all the wrong places because Insee it all the time
2018 Bear Down Wildcats Conference Championship Challenge Champion
UAEebs86
Posts: 30181
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:41 pm
Reputation: 1841
Location: Mohave Dorm Room 417 Buzz 2

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by UAEebs86 »

:lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:
User avatar
CatFanOneMil
Posts: 1086
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:54 pm
Reputation: 82

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by CatFanOneMil »

UAEebs86 wrote::lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:

Looks like someone from ESPN counsel had a sit down with DickintheMouthV...
MountainCat
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:08 am
Reputation: 130

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by MountainCat »

UAEebs86 wrote::lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:
I bet he will later say that this only applies to those in the "Championship Series" or whatever it is call. I bet he can't resist and says something about Arizona before tomorrow night's tipoff at McKale.

By the way anyone else notice that if/when you watch ESPN Sport Center in the Morning, there new back screen Name and Moto reads:

"SC:am"

I don't know about you, but all I read is SCAM when I see that.
No Bandwagon Here! Always a Cat!
User avatar
Sidewinder
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:07 pm
Reputation: 7
Location: Outer Bongolia

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Sidewinder »

Longhorned wrote:
Newportcat wrote:In case anyone didn’t know the way we have the regent system for our university is fucking beyond awful

We should have a board of trustees specific to our university that oversees the president
Why is there one board of regents for three universities? I'm used to the president presiding over all the campuses of a single university, and answering to one board. Not even New Mexico has one board of regents for UNM, NM State, etc. Each has its own.
It's not uncommon - 25 states have some form of a consolidated governing board for public universities.
"Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches"
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Longhorned »

Sidewinder wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
Newportcat wrote:In case anyone didn’t know the way we have the regent system for our university is fucking beyond awful

We should have a board of trustees specific to our university that oversees the president
Why is there one board of regents for three universities? I'm used to the president presiding over all the campuses of a single university, and answering to one board. Not even New Mexico has one board of regents for UNM, NM State, etc. Each has its own.
It's not uncommon - 25 states have some form of a consolidated governing board for public universities.
I guess we're just in the lucky half.
User avatar
Jefe
Posts: 4932
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:29 am
Reputation: 154

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Jefe »

PennZona20 wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:Jefe - I will absolutely do a dri-fit version of that shirt.
Same. XXL and tell me where to send the $
Im putting the order in but didn't hear back from you and it doesn't look like you saw my message. Emailed you, lmk!
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8707
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1161

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by ChooChooCat »

Hey did you guys know that Allonzo Trier was also somehow involved in all of this? Regardless of the fact his name has never once come up in any allegations or in testimony whatsoever? Well fuck me, the media as a whole are doing a fantastic job of misrepresenting facts and just blatantly making shit up as they go along. This is getting old. REAL. FUCKING. FAST.

https://sports.yahoo.com/despite-scanda ... 36235.html" target="_blank
User avatar
sirhamsalot
Posts: 137
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:25 am
Reputation: 0

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by sirhamsalot »

Yahoo going hard at Kansas and the NCAA... :)

https://sports.yahoo.com/bill-self-post ... 11367.html" target="_blank
Spaceman Spiff
Posts: 14664
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:28 am
Reputation: 1150

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Spaceman Spiff »

sirhamsalot wrote:Yahoo going hard at Kansas and the NCAA... :)

https://sports.yahoo.com/bill-self-post ... 11367.html" target="_blank
That article should be directed at Enfuego specifically.
Image
User avatar
dovecanyoncat
Posts: 16746
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:16 pm
Reputation: 2143
Location: Old Farts and Golf Carts

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by dovecanyoncat »

sirhamsalot wrote:Yahoo going hard at Kansas and the NCAA... :)

https://sports.yahoo.com/bill-self-post ... 11367.html" target="_blank
"He [Gassnola] has the same attorney as the Mafia hit man currently suspected of murdering former Boston crime boss Whitey Bulger in a federal prison last week."
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

~ Wilhoit's Law
User avatar
prh
Posts: 2781
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:05 pm
Reputation: 152
Location: Tucson

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by prh »

ChooChooCat wrote:Hey did you guys know that Allonzo Trier was also somehow involved in all of this? Regardless of the fact his name has never once come up in any allegations or in testimony whatsoever? Well fuck me, the media as a whole are doing a fantastic job of misrepresenting facts and just blatantly making shit up as they go along. This is getting old. REAL. FUCKING. FAST.

https://sports.yahoo.com/despite-scanda ... 36235.html" target="_blank
Predictably, the only responses to his tweet of the article are from Arizona fans (including some of our own BDW). Scheer also tweeted at him but none of these national guys ever respond. Maybe Scheer can text him and then post the conversation :lol:
PHXCATS
Posts: 6990
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:29 pm
Reputation: -63

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by PHXCATS »

Forde removed Trier's name from his article
2018 Bear Down Wildcats Conference Championship Challenge Champion
User avatar
Gilbertcat
Posts: 982
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Gilbertcat »

(Editor’s note: A previous version of this story mentioned Allonzo Trier as having been named in federal testimony. He was not. The story has been updated to reflect that.)
https://sports.yahoo.com/despite-scanda ... 36235.html" target="_blank

See ESPN, thats how you do a correction, not inducing more ramblings that still dont prove the lies.
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8707
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1161

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by ChooChooCat »

PHXCATS wrote:Forde removed Trier's name from his article
The article still is factually incorrect regardless if they took out the most factually incorrect portion or not.
PHXCATS
Posts: 6990
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:29 pm
Reputation: -63

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by PHXCATS »

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Forde removed Trier's name from his article
The article still is factually incorrect regardless if they took out the most factually incorrect portion or not.
Exactly as many have pointed out on twitter
2018 Bear Down Wildcats Conference Championship Challenge Champion
User avatar
JMarkJohns
Posts: 3355
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:28 am
Reputation: 174
Location: VforVindication
Contact:

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by JMarkJohns »

I’m losing my goddamned mind over this.

I worked in newspaper and radio media for 8 years, and taught it at an award-winning level for 6.

What in the actual fuck is this world doing that flat out falseities and lies and slander with nothing but a quipped cutesy turn of phrase to support it is reported not by blogboys like Basnight, but verified, checkmarked, by-lined, reputable services and media?

They are reporting on ethics in the least ethical way possible.
User avatar
NYCat
Posts: 4167
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:26 pm
Reputation: 1
Location: Scarsdale

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by NYCat »

Gilbertcat wrote:
(Editor’s note: A previous version of this story mentioned Allonzo Trier as having been named in federal testimony. He was not. The story has been updated to reflect that.)
https://sports.yahoo.com/despite-scanda ... 36235.html" target="_blank

See ESPN, thats how you do a correction, not inducing more ramblings that still dont prove the lies.
Fortunately nobody cares besides Arizona fans, and likely also the only ones who saw it, read it and the majority who gave the article traffic
Spaceman Spiff
Posts: 14664
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:28 am
Reputation: 1150

Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Post by Spaceman Spiff »

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Forde removed Trier's name from his article
The article still is factually incorrect regardless if they took out the most factually incorrect portion or not.
Rawle, at most, is involved in the email proposing paying him. Saying Gassnola testified he paid regarding Ayton is fair, but it's a big omission that the testimony was that the payment was for KU and not to Ayton or family.

But who cares about subtlety, nuance and accuracy.
Image
Post Reply