I guarantee NM, BW, and JG start next year.Beachcat97 wrote:Nico could even be a lotto pick.
I think it’s reasonable to assume he and JG are OAD. It sucks, but that’s the game you play with elite freshmen. There’s a heightened urgency to win immediately. Previous Miller teams have thrived with elite freshmen: Gordon, SJ, Lauri, Ayton. It’ll just be a matter of whether the rest of the roster is good enough to have the success we’re envisioning.
Probably covered elsewhere, but how likely is it that we see a three guard starting unit next season with NM, JG and BW? Those three plus Jeter and one more big would seem to be our best 5. How good is Stone Gettings?
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Yeah. I mean, those are unquestionably our best three guards. I was just wondering if we had a different option at that 3 spot.ChooChooCat wrote:I guarantee NM, BW, and JG start next year.Beachcat97 wrote:Nico could even be a lotto pick.
I think it’s reasonable to assume he and JG are OAD. It sucks, but that’s the game you play with elite freshmen. There’s a heightened urgency to win immediately. Previous Miller teams have thrived with elite freshmen: Gordon, SJ, Lauri, Ayton. It’ll just be a matter of whether the rest of the roster is good enough to have the success we’re envisioning.
Probably covered elsewhere, but how likely is it that we see a three guard starting unit next season with NM, JG and BW? Those three plus Jeter and one more big would seem to be our best 5. How good is Stone Gettings?
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Or could Zeke or Stone challenge for a starting spot? I actually think Ira is going to be much better next year, surrounded with smarter, better offensive players. Ira could be a Bennet Davison-type player if things shake out the right way.
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I have heard Nico would stay if he felt like he could improve his standing and get into the lottery if he was not there after next year.
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Who knows but I have heard its not a foregone conclusion either him or Zeke leave. Obviously playing well next year would change that but then also that means we are probably good so
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Starting to have concerns about Chase Jeter coming back next year after this injury scare for him...just don't have a good feeling about it.Beachcat97 wrote:Yeah. I mean, those are unquestionably are best three guards. I was just wondering if we had a different option at that 3 spot.ChooChooCat wrote:I guarantee NM, BW, and JG start next year.Beachcat97 wrote:Nico could even be a lotto pick.
I think it’s reasonable to assume he and JG are OAD. It sucks, but that’s the game you play with elite freshmen. There’s a heightened urgency to win immediately. Previous Miller teams have thrived with elite freshmen: Gordon, SJ, Lauri, Ayton. It’ll just be a matter of whether the rest of the roster is good enough to have the success we’re envisioning.
Probably covered elsewhere, but how likely is it that we see a three guard starting unit next season with NM, JG and BW? Those three plus Jeter and one more big would seem to be our best 5. How good is Stone Gettings?
NM
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Or could Zeke or Stone challenge for a starting spot? I actually think Ira is going to be much better next year, surrounded with smarter, better offensive players. Ira could be a Bennet Davison-type player if things shake out the right way.
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I'd assume Gettings or Nnaji will be your starting 4 man next year.Beachcat97 wrote:Yeah. I mean, those are unquestionably our best three guards. I was just wondering if we had a different option at that 3 spot.ChooChooCat wrote:I guarantee NM, BW, and JG start next year.Beachcat97 wrote:Nico could even be a lotto pick.
I think it’s reasonable to assume he and JG are OAD. It sucks, but that’s the game you play with elite freshmen. There’s a heightened urgency to win immediately. Previous Miller teams have thrived with elite freshmen: Gordon, SJ, Lauri, Ayton. It’ll just be a matter of whether the rest of the roster is good enough to have the success we’re envisioning.
Probably covered elsewhere, but how likely is it that we see a three guard starting unit next season with NM, JG and BW? Those three plus Jeter and one more big would seem to be our best 5. How good is Stone Gettings?
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Or could Zeke or Stone challenge for a starting spot? I actually think Ira is going to be much better next year, surrounded with smarter, better offensive players. Ira could be a Bennet Davison-type player if things shake out the right way.
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Gettings must be better than I realize.
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Certainly hope he is!Beachcat97 wrote:Gettings must be better than I realize.
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Mannion #8
Green #13
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ESPN had Green #7 Mannion #17
Green #13
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CCC would you expect Ira to come back? Feels like at minimum he would have 20min a game whether off the bench or starting.ChooChooCat wrote:
I'd assume Gettings or Nnaji will be your starting 4 man next year.
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At this moment yes.baycat93 wrote:CCC would you expect Ira to come back? Feels like at minimum he would have 20min a game whether off the bench or starting.ChooChooCat wrote:
I'd assume Gettings or Nnaji will be your starting 4 man next year.
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Is getting better than Ira Lee? Who would he be compared to? I hope he's better than Luther...
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Ira is growing into one of my favorite players. Really want him to play four years and graduate. Reminds of a Lute Era player. Someone who plays significant minutes, seldom starts, and has plenty of memorable and impacting moments.ChooChooCat wrote:At this moment yes.baycat93 wrote:CCC would you expect Ira to come back? Feels like at minimum he would have 20min a game whether off the bench or starting.ChooChooCat wrote:
I'd assume Gettings or Nnaji will be your starting 4 man next year.
It seems to me they have been working with him on a baseline jumper. If he can perfect that 10 foot baseline jumper and just be a junkyard dog... he will get more than his share of PT.
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My thought is either Miller decides to go with experience (Gettings) or talent (Nnaji). Both can equally stretch the floor, although Gettings may be better there. Miller may just go with the guy who best compliments the starting 5, which theoretically should be Jeter. Lee is literally best as a back up 5 man honestly.billk78 wrote:Is getting better than Ira Lee? Who would he be compared to? I hope he's better than Luther...
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Can’t wait to see that kid play at McKale.
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A midcourt angle:UAEebs86 wrote:
Awesome.
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When he does that in the tourney for Arizona, he’ll get called for an offensive foul.
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They get better attendance than most PAC teams
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Better talent too.Merkin wrote:They get better attendance than most PAC teams
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And better resultsChicat wrote:Better talent too.Merkin wrote:They get better attendance than most PAC teams
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https://twitter.com/BFlinnElevate/statu ... 9879168000" target="_blank
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
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The one comment on that tweet....of course.goslingswagg wrote:https://twitter.com/BFlinnElevate/statu ... 9879168000
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
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Classssssic. Those jokes never get old!ChooChooCat wrote:The one comment on that tweet....of course.goslingswagg wrote:https://twitter.com/BFlinnElevate/statu ... 9879168000
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
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If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
How about we land him and keep Jeter for another year.
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That would be great, but I would guess that he wouldn't come here if Jeter is coming back...too crowded of a front court. Someone in the know can correct me if I'm wrong on that though.MC1983 wrote:goslingswagg wrote:https://twitter.com/BFlinnElevate/statu ... 9879168000
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
How about we land him and keep Jeter for another year.
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Let's keep Jeter and then see what happens. Keeping Jeter is imperative.MC1983 wrote:goslingswagg wrote:https://twitter.com/BFlinnElevate/statu ... 9879168000
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
How about we land him and keep Jeter for another year.
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Wholeheartedly agree.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Let's keep Jeter and then see what happens. Keeping Jeter is imperative.MC1983 wrote:goslingswagg wrote:https://twitter.com/BFlinnElevate/statu ... 9879168000
If Jeter leaves, wouldn't mind replacing him with Ballo if there's any way we can pry him away from Gonzaga...
How about we land him and keep Jeter for another year.
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good bye #1 recruiting class and any chance that 19 was going to be a good year for AZ Basketball.
It's long past time to bring this back to the court, let's do it with a small update:
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This is going to be a pretty depressing thread pretty soon.
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Assuming we find some way to escape the NCAA/FBI jungle we may still have a shot at Ballo
https://247sports.com/college/basketbal ... 128837727/" target="_blank
Ballo previously told 247Sports that his list of schools also included Arizona and Baylor. He said on Thursday that he would still like to take an official visit to Arizona, although a date has been scheduled.
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Ballo previously told 247Sports that his list of schools also included Arizona and Baylor. He said on Thursday that he would still like to take an official visit to Arizona, although a date has been scheduled.
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Some good news about Mannion and his desire to play for Miller.
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I wouldn't start panicking yet, guys.
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Too late.Beachcat97 wrote:I wouldn't start panicking yet, guys.
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Fucking rollercoaster
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Green says he will wear #0 at AZ
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I wouldn’t mind another Agent 0. I really would like a sharpshooter and that sharpshooter to put on #20. And NM has my blessing to put on 10 tooJefe wrote:Green says he will wear #0 at AZ
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I will just settle for a shooter....Frybry02 wrote:Jefe wrote:I really would like a sharpshooter
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Randolph is a shooter, too. His shots just don't go in.EastCoastCat wrote:I will just settle for a shooter....Frybry02 wrote:Jefe wrote:I really would like a sharpshooter
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I bet his shots go in if his feet aren't moving. There's a metric somewhere but I'm not going to dredge it up.zonagrad wrote:Randolph is a shooter, too. His shots just don't go in.EastCoastCat wrote:I will just settle for a shooter....Frybry02 wrote:Jefe wrote:I really would like a sharpshooter
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This is what I noticed. He doesn’t set his feet when shooting. The only shots a player can make without being set are layups and floaters. And floaters take a lot of practice. If a shooter is moving horizontally around 3-point range it is nearly impossible to make a shot. Randolph seems to lack fundamental skills of setting his feet when shooting, something he should have learned long ago. He may have good athleticism and potential, however, how teachable is he?dovecanyoncat wrote:I bet his shots go in if his feet aren't moving. There's a metric somewhere but I'm not going to dredge it up.zonagrad wrote:Randolph is a shooter, too. His shots just don't go in.EastCoastCat wrote:I will just settle for a shooter....Frybry02 wrote:Jefe wrote:I really would like a sharpshooter
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It's more about balance than just setting your feet - your feet can be set but you are falling back or sideways and that can be the difference.
I actually think he has a good technical stroke and have seen him take plenty of good shots. You hear CSM talk a lot about "confidence" and you'd be amazed how much that actually plays into how well a player shoots.
Some guys can do it in practice but not in games (Barcello) so not sure what Randolph's problem is.
Not sure how hard he works in practice but if I were him I would add another 500 practice shots a day. Sometimes it's just that simple.
I actually think he has a good technical stroke and have seen him take plenty of good shots. You hear CSM talk a lot about "confidence" and you'd be amazed how much that actually plays into how well a player shoots.
Some guys can do it in practice but not in games (Barcello) so not sure what Randolph's problem is.
Not sure how hard he works in practice but if I were him I would add another 500 practice shots a day. Sometimes it's just that simple.
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Yeah, his stroke looks good, but if he's in transition, is dribbling or moving in any way such that he has to engage that thing between his ears he just makes me cringe. Set plays or shots made from 3 off someone else's drive and kick, FTs, if he knows beforehand exactly what's coming, are good shots for him. All the rest...oh brother.
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But he's going to kill it for the rest of the season.
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See, this is something that bugs me. It almost sounds like a recruiting failure. It's very risky offering scholarships to players who lack these fundamentals, and it feels like we've had a lot of them lately. Randolph and Akot for sure. I even think Rawle left a lot to be desired fundamentally. Every time he dribbled I got nervous.Catintheheat wrote:. Randolph seems to lack fundamental skills of setting his feet when shooting, something he should have learned long ago. He may have good athleticism and potential, however, how teachable is he?
I wonder if our coaches become enamored with sheer athleticism to the neglect of things like shooting form, dribbling, defensive positioning, boxing out, etc. If a player hasn't developed a basic skill level in these areas before college, he's always going to be struggling to catch up, which is what I think we're seeing with Randolph.
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Yeah, we need more guys like Barcello, who have shooting form nailed down.Beachcat97 wrote:See, this is something that bugs me. It almost sounds like a recruiting failure. It's very risky offering scholarships to players who lack these fundamentals, and it feels like we've had a lot of them lately. Randolph and Akot for sure. I even think Rawle left a lot to be desired fundamentally. Every time he dribbled I got nervous.Catintheheat wrote:. Randolph seems to lack fundamental skills of setting his feet when shooting, something he should have learned long ago. He may have good athleticism and potential, however, how teachable is he?
I wonder if our coaches become enamored with sheer athleticism to the neglect of things like shooting form, dribbling, defensive positioning, boxing out, etc. If a player hasn't developed a basic skill level in these areas before college, he's always going to be struggling to catch up, which is what I think we're seeing with Randolph.
At 17, there aren't a ton of guys who have fundamentals and athleticism both. Name me how many freshmen in this class have them? RJ Barrett was shooting 32% from 3 before he lit Virginia up.
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Koloko looks like he has pretty good hands in those highlights. Looks like he has pretty quick twitch athleticism too.
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Help is on the way.
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The more I watch Armstrong, the more he reminds me of Randolph, hopefully with a better basketball IQ.
Koloko...he has some potential, but he needs to develop his body and maybe an offensive game outside layups and dunks.
Please just settle things with Miller, bring them in and next year will be like we're used to.
Koloko...he has some potential, but he needs to develop his body and maybe an offensive game outside layups and dunks.
Please just settle things with Miller, bring them in and next year will be like we're used to.
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The collective hope of Wildcat nation.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Please just settle things with Miller, bring them in and next year will be like we're used to.