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StickItInTheyFace wrote:
Longhorned wrote:I don't know what's next, but I do remember Barcello was concerned about committing to Arizona for fear that he might not be good enough. This whole question points to why there might have been cause for that concern.
Man, that kid's confidence is non-existent.
Self-doubt generally has positives and negatives, but for athletics specifically, it's only positive if it motivates you to work harder than anybody else. Other than that, it's just the bag of rocks that weighs down your confidence.

You can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit. To maximize annoyance among friends and family, you should say that all the time, and (inexplicably) always with a gravelly voice.
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Longhorned wrote:
StickItInTheyFace wrote:
Longhorned wrote:I don't know what's next, but I do remember Barcello was concerned about committing to Arizona for fear that he might not be good enough. This whole question points to why there might have been cause for that concern.
Man, that kid's confidence is non-existent.
Self-doubt generally has positives and negatives, but for athletics specifically, it's only positive if it motivates you to work harder than anybody else. Other than that, it's just the bag of rocks that weighs down your confidence.

You can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit. To maximize annoyance among friends and family, you should say that all the time, and (inexplicably) always with a gravelly voice.
You think I haven't been taking notes of all the great phrases and metaphors since I found this site? :lol:
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azcat49 wrote:Maybe Barcello gives his scholarship up for one year and pays the freight as an in state student?
I don't know if you can do that. Someone who knows NCAA rules might know better, but it seems like a real open door to manipulate rosters to me.

Also, even as an in-state student, real cost of attendance is near $25,000. While his family is pretty well off on first glance, there are factors in play there that go deeper into some of his struggles. And, no...in the best of circumstances, he can't be expected to pay $25K to have a seat.
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EVCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Maybe Barcello gives his scholarship up for one year and pays the freight as an in state student?
I don't know if you can do that. Someone who knows NCAA rules might know better, but it seems like a real open door to manipulate rosters to me.

Also, even as an in-state student, real cost of attendance is near $25,000. While his family is pretty well off on first glance, there are factors in play there that go deeper into some of his struggles. And, no...in the best of circumstances, he can't be expected to pay $25K to have a seat.
I don't think there's any rules for a player going off scholarship and paying their own way (Taylor Rochestie did it at Washington St. back in the Tony Bennett days to make room for a recruit). I do seem to remember there being a rule against moving a recruited athlete off of an athletic scholarship and onto an academic one.
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tricat wrote:
EVCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Maybe Barcello gives his scholarship up for one year and pays the freight as an in state student?
I don't know if you can do that. Someone who knows NCAA rules might know better, but it seems like a real open door to manipulate rosters to me.

Also, even as an in-state student, real cost of attendance is near $25,000. While his family is pretty well off on first glance, there are factors in play there that go deeper into some of his struggles. And, no...in the best of circumstances, he can't be expected to pay $25K to have a seat.
I don't think there's any rules for a player going off scholarship and paying their own way (Taylor Rochestie did it at Washington St. back in the Tony Bennett days to make room for a recruit). I do seem to remember there being a rule against moving a recruited athlete off of an athletic scholarship and onto an academic one.

Josh Pastner gave up his scholie for Loren Woods if memory serves although Pastner was recruited as a walk on and was awarded a scholie when they had one left over.

You cannot go on an academic scholarship if you were ever recruited to play a sport, barring injury. Ray Smith did just that, but could never play again for Arizona.
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Can we just crowdfund his tuition? I've got five on it.
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Merkin wrote:
tricat wrote:
EVCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Maybe Barcello gives his scholarship up for one year and pays the freight as an in state student?
I don't know if you can do that. Someone who knows NCAA rules might know better, but it seems like a real open door to manipulate rosters to me.

Also, even as an in-state student, real cost of attendance is near $25,000. While his family is pretty well off on first glance, there are factors in play there that go deeper into some of his struggles. And, no...in the best of circumstances, he can't be expected to pay $25K to have a seat.
I don't think there's any rules for a player going off scholarship and paying their own way (Taylor Rochestie did it at Washington St. back in the Tony Bennett days to make room for a recruit). I do seem to remember there being a rule against moving a recruited athlete off of an athletic scholarship and onto an academic one.

Josh Pastner gave up his scholie for Loren Woods if memory serves although Pastner was recruited as a walk on and was awarded a scholie when they had one left over.

You cannot go on an academic scholarship if you were ever recruited to play a sport, barring injury. Ray Smith did just that, but could never play again for Arizona.
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MountainCat wrote:Any Football Scholarships available?
The nice thing about scholarship rankings is that a player who plays on both teams (e.g. NateRob) goes against the football scholarships, not basketball.

That's why you occasionally see football players on basketball teams, such as Ortege Jenkins and Peter Hansen(?), who played for Tomey who let them play for Lute.

Stoops wouldn't let any football players walk on the basketball team.
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MountainCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:
tricat wrote:
EVCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Maybe Barcello gives his scholarship up for one year and pays the freight as an in state student?
I don't know if you can do that. Someone who knows NCAA rules might know better, but it seems like a real open door to manipulate rosters to me.

Also, even as an in-state student, real cost of attendance is near $25,000. While his family is pretty well off on first glance, there are factors in play there that go deeper into some of his struggles. And, no...in the best of circumstances, he can't be expected to pay $25K to have a seat.
I don't think there's any rules for a player going off scholarship and paying their own way (Taylor Rochestie did it at Washington St. back in the Tony Bennett days to make room for a recruit). I do seem to remember there being a rule against moving a recruited athlete off of an athletic scholarship and onto an academic one.

Josh Pastner gave up his scholie for Loren Woods if memory serves although Pastner was recruited as a walk on and was awarded a scholie when they had one left over.

You cannot go on an academic scholarship if you were ever recruited to play a sport, barring injury. Ray Smith did just that, but could never play again for Arizona.
Any Football Scholarships available?
Good idea. We should just claim Koloko is a nose tackle.
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Koloko as Peter Hansen-style FG Blocker
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Do we have a rowing team? Asking for Aunt Becky....
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Chicat wrote:Do we have a rowing team? Asking for Aunt Becky....

Just pictured a couple of 6'10" guys sitting in a row boat in the Rillito waiting for it to rain.
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legallykenny wrote:
Chicat wrote:Do we have a rowing team? Asking for Aunt Becky....

Just pictured a couple of 6'10" guys sitting in a row boat in the Rillito waiting for it to rain.
:lol:

Imagine the records that could be broken during monsoon flash floods!
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Chicat wrote:
legallykenny wrote:
Chicat wrote:Do we have a rowing team? Asking for Aunt Becky....

Just pictured a couple of 6'10" guys sitting in a row boat in the Rillito waiting for it to rain.
:lol:

Imagine the records that could be broken during monsoon flash floods!
Depends on whether they're going upstream or down.... :lol:
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PHXCATS wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Still waiting and wondering who is losing their scholarship to make way for Brown...
Brandon Williams could leave due to injury but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I’m hearing this more and more the past couple of days. At first I totally dismissed it but with how much I’ve seen it mentioned by different people it’s hard to ignore.

Anyone know if there’s any real weight behind this? Getting the Ray Smith pit in my stomach just thinking about it.
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StickItInTheyFace wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Still waiting and wondering who is losing their scholarship to make way for Brown...
Brandon Williams could leave due to injury but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I’m hearing this more and more the past couple of days. At first I totally dismissed it but with how much I’ve seen it mentioned by different people it’s hard to ignore.

Anyone know if there’s any real weight behind this? Getting the Ray Smith pit in my stomach just thinking about it.
So would this be a case of Williams being so injured that he could no longer play collegiately and would leave school or go on an academic scholarship?
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az91 wrote:
StickItInTheyFace wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Still waiting and wondering who is losing their scholarship to make way for Brown...
Brandon Williams could leave due to injury but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I’m hearing this more and more the past couple of days. At first I totally dismissed it but with how much I’ve seen it mentioned by different people it’s hard to ignore.

Anyone know if there’s any real weight behind this? Getting the Ray Smith pit in my stomach just thinking about it.
So would this be a case of Williams being so injured that he could no longer play collegiately and would leave school or go on an academic scholarship?
That’s what I’ve heard people say. Like I said before, I have no clue if this is even remotely true. Just been hearing it a few times. I don’t want to help spread dumb rumors, just hoping someone will shut it down so I can feel good about BWill.
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Koloko is on campus, so the thinking that he was being purged from the recruiting class is done.

It only leaves one viable option and that’s B-Will, unless Dylan Smith has a change of heart and wants to leave.
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This B-Will thing seems like something one person said, and everyone else has run with it. Like a lot of the FBI stuff
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I haven’t heard/read a single credible word about B-Will possibly leaving. If Choo and/or 97 aren’t saying it, I doubt there’s anything to the rumor.
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I'm in the dark on this one, but from the way others who know more than me are treating this it certainly appears to have legs.

Edit: The fact he edited his Twitter profile which used to say "University of Arizona guard" probably ain't a good sign.
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ChooChooCat wrote:I'm in the dark on this one, but from the way others who know more than me are treating this it certainly appears to have legs.

Edit: The fact he edited his Twitter profile which used to say "University of Arizona guard" probably ain't a good sign.
Same with his Instagram account.

He gone.
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ChooChooCat wrote:I'm in the dark on this one, but from the way others who know more than me are treating this it certainly appears to have legs.

Edit: The fact he edited his Twitter profile which used to say "University of Arizona guard" probably ain't a good sign.
This wouldn’t be a transfer right? This would have to be a medical retirement I would think. That would phase me to no end if he was transferring.
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PlayersProgramU is reporting that Brandon Williams will not be on the team this year....
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A1RZONA wrote:PlayersProgramU is reporting that Brandon Williams will not be on the team this year....
Before or after Choo’s post? Lol we’ve through this before
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If true, we can pump the brakes on expectations for next season. Terrible news.
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Mannion, Hazzard, Green, Nnaji, and Jeter would be my lineup if true. Knowing Miller though I'm sure he'll find a way for Dylan Smith to start at all 5 positions.
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This tweet makes it sound like he is transferring
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Hate it that two guys who stuck with us during very difficult times have left. Wish them nothing but the very best. College basketball is big business
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84Cat wrote:This tweet makes it sound like he is transferring
I'm confident they have no idea, they're literally using the same evidence I was to come to a conclusion.
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This is accelerating quickly. Maybe it has been in the works for a while?
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ChooChooCat wrote:
84Cat wrote:This tweet makes it sound like he is transferring
I'm confident they have no idea, they're literally using the same evidence I was to come to a conclusion.

If they are wrong then oh man, that’s an ESPIN level mistake
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az91 wrote:This is accelerating quickly. Maybe it has been in the works for a while?
Your accelerating quickly.

(It felt so right to misspell 'you're' their. I mean they're. I mean hair.)
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azcat49 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
84Cat wrote:This tweet makes it sound like he is transferring
I'm confident they have no idea, they're literally using the same evidence I was to come to a conclusion.

If they are wrong then oh man, that’s an ESPIN level mistake
Wait, isn't that ... you know. The convict.
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Longhorned wrote:
azcat49 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
84Cat wrote:This tweet makes it sound like he is transferring
I'm confident they have no idea, they're literally using the same evidence I was to come to a conclusion.

If they are wrong then oh man, that’s an ESPIN level mistake
Wait, isn't that ... you know. The convict.

No he died. Nudge nudge wink wink. Know what I mean?
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It’s trash of them to tag Williams - he hasn’t said shit about it and now he’ll get pinged on every reply asking “wtf??”
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Why do we have to live with this crap? Does Oregon State and Colorado have some dead nutjob making their program's and fans' life hell?
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azcat49 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
84Cat wrote:This tweet makes it sound like he is transferring
I'm confident they have no idea, they're literally using the same evidence I was to come to a conclusion.

If they are wrong then oh man, that’s an ESPIN level mistake
There are very few entities that cover Arizona sports that I trust implicitly and without verification.

That twitter feed ain’t one of them...
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They probably just took Choo’s comment and then tweeted to be first. It’s PGU reincarnated. Total trash
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azcat49 wrote:
If they are wrong then oh man, that’s an ESPIN level mistake
Well on the surface they really didn't report anything. So not really.
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SunnyAZ wrote:
azcat49 wrote:
If they are wrong then oh man, that’s an ESPIN level mistake
Well on the surface they really didn't report anything. So not really.
And that's exactly what they'll say if/when it turns out to be false. They'll argue that they wished him well this offseason as he recovers from the nagging injuries that dogged him for much of the season.

Of course, if Williams announces he's done at Arizona, they'll claim they had the news first. That's how they roll. It's called dealing from both sides of the deck.
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Zeke is one of 18 finalists for the USA U19 team.
Final team will be 12 players. Good recognition of Zeke to make it this far, here's hoping he makes the final cut.
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Eric Bossi comments on Nnaji standing out for his strength, which is great to hear considering Nnaji has looked thin for his height as a high school player. Nnaji listed at 6'11" / 228lbs by USA BBall - if that's true he's a little bigger than Jeter and a little smaller than Dusan was - could easily play center.
Miller there watching Nnaji and 2020 target Ziaire Williams.
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No more Armstrong....
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IndianaZonaFan wrote:No more Armstrong....
Terrence Ferguson...
Guess that takes care of it, schollie count

1. Max Hazzard (Sr)
2. Stone Gettings (Sr)
3. Chase Jeter (Sr)
4. Dylan Smith (Sr)
5. Ira Lee (Jr)
6. Alex Barcello (Jr)
7. Jemarl Baker (So)
8. Jordan Brown (So)
9. Brandon Williams (So)
10. Nico Mannion (Fr)
11. Josh Green (Fr)
12. Zeke Nnaji (Fr)
13. Christian Koloko (Fr)
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NYCat wrote:
IndianaZonaFan wrote:No more Armstrong....
Terrence Ferguson...
Guess that takes care of it, schollie count

1. Max Hazzard (Sr)
2. Stone Gettings (Sr)
3. Chase Jeter (Sr)
4. Dylan Smith (Sr)
5. Ira Lee (Jr)
6. Alex Barcello (Jr)
7. Jemarl Baker (So)
8. Jordan Brown (So)
9. Brandon Williams (So)
10. Nico Mannion (Fr)
11. Josh Green (Fr)
12. Zeke Nnaji (Fr)
13. Christian Koloko (Fr)
Wow. Good luck, I guess.

If BWill is still here...well, I liked Armstrong but wasn't all that attached yet.
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opens up minutes for Dylan Smith. Let's go!

wait no
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Sigh, buckle up boys.
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Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Wow. Good luck, I guess.

If BWill is still here...well, I liked Armstrong but wasn't all that attached yet.
Yeah, I never have a problem with a player leaving early, transferring, going overseas to secure some money, etc. This one just hurts more because of the Bwill concerns. Terry seemed pretty important to this year if BWill isn't healthy and really important to future years.
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