The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Moderators: UAdevil, JMarkJohns

UAEebs86
Posts: 30196
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:41 pm
Reputation: 1849
Location: Mohave Dorm Room 417 Buzz 2

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by UAEebs86 »

I see you lurking enfuego.


You still feel the pain to this day don't you?
User avatar
ByJoveByJingle
Posts: 1963
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:52 pm
Reputation: 54

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ByJoveByJingle »

EVCat wrote:And that wasn't the only brain fart that year. Remember how many quick shots we took up double digits in the last 5 minutes vs Kansas. It's one thing to not overly slow down and take yourself out of rhythm, but it is another thing to force shots with 25 on the shot clock when you are up 12 and all the pressure is on "Roy's Greatest Team Ever".
Image

Well, well, well . . .
User avatar
zonagrad
Posts: 1983
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:49 am
Reputation: 167

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by zonagrad »

EVCat wrote:And here is the insane Miles shot/possession that set in motion PC's near stunner

Shows how crazy and lucky Arizona was in ‘97.
User avatar
84Cat
Posts: 19875
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:17 pm
Reputation: 1075
Location: Boise

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by 84Cat »

ChooChooCat
Posts: 8719
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1176

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ChooChooCat »

EVCat wrote:And here is the insane Miles shot/possession that set in motion PC's near stunner

That confirms Dylan Smith as the 2020 Final Four Most Outstanding Player
User avatar
pc in NM
Posts: 5583
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 am
Reputation: 674
Location: Roswell, NM

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by pc in NM »

zonagrad wrote:
EVCat wrote:And here is the insane Miles shot/possession that set in motion PC's near stunner

Shows how crazy and lucky Arizona was in ‘97.
They could beat anyone...

... and they could lose to anyone....
“If you have the choice between humble and cocky, go with cocky. There's always time to be humble later, once you've been proven horrendously, irrevocably wrong.”

― Kinky Friedman
Postmaster
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
Reputation: 340

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Postmaster »

EVCat wrote:And here is the insane Miles shot/possession that set in motion PC's near stunner

Man, I don’t recall Matt Simon starting for Arizona that game.
Postmaster
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
Reputation: 340

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Postmaster »

84Cat wrote:
Probably why he has those dark circles under his eyes. Dude never sleeps
User avatar
U.P. Zona Fan
Posts: 2656
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:57 pm
Reputation: 414
Location: Big bay, MI

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by U.P. Zona Fan »

Nooooooo. Washington game is a red out.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
-Norlander.
User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18158
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 194
Location: tucson, az

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ASUHATER! »

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Nooooooo. Washington game is a red out.
Without students too. Spring break started today so all the students will be gone by mid day today.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
pc in NM
Posts: 5583
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 am
Reputation: 674
Location: Roswell, NM

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by pc in NM »

ASUHATER! wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Nooooooo. Washington game is a red out.
Without students too. Spring break started today so all the students will be gone by mid day today.
So, only the blue-hairs will be in the arena with a team from the University that just cancelled all in-person classes on its campus... :lol:
“If you have the choice between humble and cocky, go with cocky. There's always time to be humble later, once you've been proven horrendously, irrevocably wrong.”

― Kinky Friedman
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 43402
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1583
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Merkin »

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Nooooooo. Washington game is a red out.
Would be nice to see what the UA record is for gimmick games. I wonder if Byrne pulls those shenanigans at Bama?

But isn't every game a red out?
User avatar
AZCatGirl
Posts: 10273
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:06 pm
Reputation: 1274

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by AZCatGirl »

Every ASU game is a red out. Other than that we really shouldn't do it.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
Postmaster
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
Reputation: 340

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Postmaster »

Dwill had the big game during a whiteout and now whey won’t let it go.

I’ve always worn red to games.
User avatar
dovecanyoncat
Posts: 16751
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:16 pm
Reputation: 2144
Location: Old Farts and Golf Carts

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by dovecanyoncat »

I just don't want us to end up like Danny Crowe in Justified, enamored of the 21' rule and falling on our own weapon. It would be a Doodie demise.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

~ Wilhoit's Law
SCCats
Posts: 9071
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:35 am
Reputation: 226

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by SCCats »

10-8 = fired
dmjcat
Posts: 5556
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:58 pm
Reputation: 459

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by dmjcat »

Just got back to my Holiday Inn Express and I feel even less intelligent than when I left.

Thoughts:

1) Udub has improved their zone since the 1st game in Seattle. Their spacing was
much, much better this game

2) UA turned the ball over way too many times....some of the TO's were as a result of
#1

3) Stone Gettings failed to hit the mid-range jumpers as he did during the first game
in Seattle

4) Our lack of depth really wore us down in the 2nd half. The effect of
Akot/Doutrive/Jeter/Hazzard really hurt us

5) I will be in Vegas on Wednesday to cheer on the Cats. I have a bad feeling
the Cats will be out of the tournament before I check into my hotel.....much
like last year.
Postmaster
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
Reputation: 340

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Postmaster »

Can we get Brandon Randolph on the roster by Wednesday?
User avatar
AZCatGirl
Posts: 10273
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:06 pm
Reputation: 1274

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by AZCatGirl »

Frye sees it. Wonder how many former players agree with us as well.

Edit: It seems he deleted it, but I screencaped it.

Image
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 43402
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1583
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Merkin »

Channing is spot on.

For the first time in as long as I can remember, I turned the game off at half time. It's just not fun watching this team. They just don't give a shit.

If they don't care, why should I?
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46643
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3982
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Chicat »

Chicat wrote:
Chicat wrote:Are we having fun yet?
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
User avatar
Lando05
Posts: 1156
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:51 pm
Reputation: 109

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Lando05 »

Chicat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Chicat wrote:Are we having fun yet?
Tons of fun...
User avatar
Longhorned
Posts: 14758
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:04 pm
Reputation: 975
Location: In a guayabera at The Sands Club, Arizona Stadium

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Longhorned »

Merkin wrote:Channing is spot on.

For the first time in as long as I can remember, I turned the game off at half time. It's just not fun watching this team. They just don't give a shit.

If they don't care, why should I?
Yep.
User avatar
dovecanyoncat
Posts: 16751
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:16 pm
Reputation: 2144
Location: Old Farts and Golf Carts

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by dovecanyoncat »

Lando05 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Chicat wrote:Are we having fun yet?
Tons of fun...
Dick in the blender kind of fun.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

~ Wilhoit's Law
Postmaster
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
Reputation: 340

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Postmaster »

For all the crap people give Smith you can’t say he didn’t care.
I don’t think a lot of people would have taken an elbow to the face from Stewart and then come back to play with nostril plugs if they didn’t care.
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8719
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1176

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ChooChooCat »

Nico declares for the draft before the conference tourney even starts.
User avatar
rgdeuce
Posts: 4603
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:52 am
Reputation: 1
Location: Oral Valley, AZ

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by rgdeuce »

Wow
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8719
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1176

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ChooChooCat »

I guess it's fake news. I mean it's not, but the timing wasn't meant to be now.
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46643
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3982
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Chicat »

He didn’t declare. That tweet says he plans to declare. Which is something I could have tweeted 11 months ago.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8719
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1176

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ChooChooCat »

Chicat wrote:He didn’t declare. That tweet says he plans to declare. Which is something I could have tweeted 11 months ago.
It wasn't just that tweet, there was a lot of people saying he announced he was declaring. We all knew he was going to declare. You don't come out and say it before the season is over unless of course you don't give two shits about your team.
User avatar
TucsonClip
Posts: 1397
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:57 pm
Reputation: 177
Location: San Diego

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by TucsonClip »

To be fair, the season is already over for this squad.
"Plus, why would I go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros."

-Shane Battier
ChooChooCat
Posts: 8719
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:47 pm
Reputation: 1176

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by ChooChooCat »

TucsonClip wrote:To be fair, the season is already over for this squad.
Touche.
Captain Obvious
Posts: 762
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:37 pm
Reputation: -148

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Captain Obvious »

ChooChooCat wrote:Nico declares for the draft before the conference tourney even starts.
Expected this but the timing proves he's checked out. Couldn't he have waited until after we lose in game one of the NCAA's? It's like rats running from a sinking ship at this point.
User avatar
SabinoDrifter
Posts: 382
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:52 am
Reputation: 78
Location: Tucson

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by SabinoDrifter »

The Hazzard thing was so awkward. They did the senior night ceremonies beforehand, his parents were on the floor, Sean gave him a hug and that was the extent and went on to the other families. You could tell Sean was going through the motions and wanted it to be over as fast as the players on the floor did.
User avatar
pc in NM
Posts: 5583
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 am
Reputation: 674
Location: Roswell, NM

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by pc in NM »

Captain Obvious wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Nico declares for the draft before the conference tourney even starts.
Expected this but the timing proves he's checked out. Couldn't he have waited until after we lose in game one of the NCAA's? It's like rats running from a sinking ship at this point.
Nico has NOT “declared for the NBA Draft”, yet.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... rojections" target="_blank
Last edited by pc in NM on Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
“If you have the choice between humble and cocky, go with cocky. There's always time to be humble later, once you've been proven horrendously, irrevocably wrong.”

― Kinky Friedman
Statfreak77
Posts: 162
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:02 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Statfreak77 »

Remember when we all dreaded the end of the season, when we knew we wouldn't be able to watch Arizona basketball for 7-8 months?

How bad things have gotten, the last few seasons most of us (players included) are looking forward to the season being over well before it actually is. A sign of things.
User avatar
BBQ wildcat
Posts: 1095
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:01 pm
Reputation: 251

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by BBQ wildcat »

Statfreak77 wrote:Remember when we all dreaded the end of the season, when we knew we wouldn't be able to watch Arizona basketball for 7-8 months?

How bad things have gotten, the last few seasons most of us (players included) are looking forward to the season being over well before it actually is. A sign of things.
Still better than football. I am ready for the next season to be over and it is a long way from even BEGINNING.
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 43402
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1583
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Merkin »

pc in NM wrote:
Captain Obvious wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Nico declares for the draft before the conference tourney even starts.
Expected this but the timing proves he's checked out. Couldn't he have waited until after we lose in game one of the NCAA's? It's like rats running from a sinking ship at this point.
Nico has NOT “declared for the NBA Draft”, yet.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... rojections" target="_blank

Does anyone declare for the draft before the season ends? Although many players let the coaching staff know they will, such as Mannion and Ayton.
Beachcat97
Posts: 8595
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 470
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Beachcat97 »

Merkin wrote:
pc in NM wrote:
Captain Obvious wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Nico declares for the draft before the conference tourney even starts.
Expected this but the timing proves he's checked out. Couldn't he have waited until after we lose in game one of the NCAA's? It's like rats running from a sinking ship at this point.
Nico has NOT “declared for the NBA Draft”, yet.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... rojections" target="_blank

Does anyone declare for the draft before the season ends? Although many players let the coaching staff know they will, such as Mannion and Ayton.
It’s a sign of the times, Merk.

Even though Miller himself let it slip a while back that Nico wouldn’t be back, this isn’t something that should be on the team’s minds for a few more weeks at the soonest.

Miller hasn’t created a culture of winning and a championship work ethic. Not that that’s easy to do, but it’s what we expect at AZ. What we don’t expect are chemistry issues, little to no improvement over the course of the season, lingering tensions between coaches and players, and weak poise in late-game situations.

We can pile on Miller in a thousand different ways. Won’t change that there’s still more embarrassment to come this week, next week and apparently next season.
User avatar
WildcatStunner
Posts: 3484
Joined: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:07 am
Reputation: 137

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by WildcatStunner »

Look on the bright side, with us playing Wednesday we have less days to wait before we get to see the cats play again!
User avatar
AZCatGirl
Posts: 10273
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:06 pm
Reputation: 1274

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by AZCatGirl »

2020 as a whole is just going to suck for the two big sports. The end of this terrible basketball season, a meaningless football season in which Sumlin will most likely be canned, and then what might end up being Miller's final year that could prove to be just as meaningless as the current one we're waiting out.

Bleck. Thank god for Adia.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
Postmaster
Posts: 3505
Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:25 pm
Reputation: 340

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Postmaster »

Softball team is top 10
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26595
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1562

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by azgreg »

I'm begginning to believe that Arizona Basketball as I know it is dead.
Statfreak77
Posts: 162
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:02 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Statfreak77 »

azgreg wrote:I'm begginning to believe that Arizona Basketball as I know it is dead.
THAT Arizona basketball is dead. It died years ago.
Beachcat97
Posts: 8595
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 470
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Beachcat97 »

azgreg wrote:I'm begginning to believe that Arizona Basketball as I know it is dead.
Not dead. Hibernating.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26595
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1562

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by azgreg »

Beachcat97 wrote:
azgreg wrote:I'm begginning to believe that Arizona Basketball as I know it is dead.
Not dead. Hibernating.
Sleeping giant?
Beachcat97
Posts: 8595
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Reputation: 470
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by Beachcat97 »

azgreg wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
azgreg wrote:I'm begginning to believe that Arizona Basketball as I know it is dead.
Not dead. Hibernating.
Sleeping giant?
I mean, that’s what we are. Put the right coach in Tucson, and we’re suddenly 2-3 years away from being a national contender. We’ve seen this happen at Kentucky, Michigan, Tennessee, UCLA (under Howland), Louisville, et al. The coach is everything. If you put an outstanding coach at a program that’s been great historically, big things happen.
midnightx
Posts: 574
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:33 am
Reputation: 40

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by midnightx »

It is difficult to imagine that this team does anything in the Pac-12 Tournament or the NCAA Tournament. They have not shown up this year in any big games (two overtime losses against Oregon doesn't cut it), nor shown any sign that they can string together a run of quality wins. The early season winning streak was against inferior talent (and a couple of those games were close). When it mattered, when they were playing on senior night, at home, for a first round bye in the Pac-12 Tournament against a .500 team, they couldn't even deliver, couldn't rise to the occasion. A weak Washington team! A couple of weeks before, they got blown out at home against UCLA, again, not a great UCLA team.

In seasons past, even when there were some deficient aspects to the team, it usually felt like Arizona had enough talent and drive to put together a run in the tournament, even if it did not ultimately happen. Even the early Seam Miller era teams felt like they could go on a run, that they were prepared to play. The past few seasons have not had that feeling. There is no passion, no focus, no drive, no pride. Channing Frye is correct.
dmjcat
Posts: 5556
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:58 pm
Reputation: 459

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by dmjcat »

midnightx wrote:It is difficult to imagine that this team does anything in the Pac-12 Tournament or the NCAA Tournament. They have not shown up this year in any big games (two overtime losses against Oregon doesn't cut it), nor shown any sign that they can string together a run of quality wins. The early season winning streak was against inferior talent (and a couple of those games were close). When it mattered, when they were playing on senior night, at home, for a first round bye in the Pac-12 Tournament against a .500 team, they couldn't even deliver, couldn't rise to the occasion. A weak Washington team! A couple of weeks before, they got blown out at home against UCLA, again, not a great UCLA team.

In seasons past, even when there were some deficient aspects to the team, it usually felt like Arizona had enough talent and drive to put together a run in the tournament, even if it did not ultimately happen. Even the early Seam Miller era teams felt like they could go on a run, that they were prepared to play. The past few seasons have not had that feeling. There is no passion, no focus, no drive, no pride. Channing Frye is correct.
Wrong. By the time the game was played asu had already won. We were locked into the 5 seed no matter what the outcome of the Washington game. Win or lose we were already locked into the 5th seed playing UW again on Wednesday.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26595
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1562

Re: The 2019-2020 Season Thread

Post by azgreg »

dmjcat wrote:
midnightx wrote:It is difficult to imagine that this team does anything in the Pac-12 Tournament or the NCAA Tournament. They have not shown up this year in any big games (two overtime losses against Oregon doesn't cut it), nor shown any sign that they can string together a run of quality wins. The early season winning streak was against inferior talent (and a couple of those games were close). When it mattered, when they were playing on senior night, at home, for a first round bye in the Pac-12 Tournament against a .500 team, they couldn't even deliver, couldn't rise to the occasion. A weak Washington team! A couple of weeks before, they got blown out at home against UCLA, again, not a great UCLA team.

In seasons past, even when there were some deficient aspects to the team, it usually felt like Arizona had enough talent and drive to put together a run in the tournament, even if it did not ultimately happen. Even the early Seam Miller era teams felt like they could go on a run, that they were prepared to play. The past few seasons have not had that feeling. There is no passion, no focus, no drive, no pride. Channing Frye is correct.
Wrong. By the time the game was played asu had already won. We were locked into the 5 seed no matter what the outcome of the Washington game. Win or lose we were already locked into the 5th seed playing UW again on Wednesday.
Are you subscribing to the theory that we tanked on purpose to set up Wednesday's game?
Post Reply