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UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:12 am Sit him until the round of 32 game.
Depending on the opponent I may try and keep him out until the sweet 16 round.
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Koloko should be suspended
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Alieberman wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:13 am Koloko should be suspended
He should self-ban. It's the only way to get ahead of Kriisa's ire.
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pc in NM wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:06 am
84Cat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 am That's painful to watch
I could be wrong, and hope I am, but the fact that the front of his foot first hit C-Lo's foot, and only then rolled, appears to me to increase the risk of a high ankle sprain....
Interesting. To me the fulcrum looks lower on the foot then say the Tubelis injury where we thought initially that it might even be a knee.
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RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:09 am Are Seth's fingers really crossed?
I loved, and totally agree with, this reply to that tweet:
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pc in NM wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:06 am
84Cat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 am That's painful to watch
I could be wrong, and hope I am, but the fact that the front of his foot first hit C-Lo's foot, and only then rolled, appears to me to increase the risk of a high ankle sprain....
Again, I'm a message board doctor, but the problem is the ankle rolls much more easily out than in.

Just stand and try to roll out and in. You get a much larger ROM outwards. Meaning, rolling out, you overstress a natural roll more. Rolling in, you take the ankle beyond where it can easily go, so it distributes the strain higher and has more of a rigid...then snap effect.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:50 am Created a quick gif

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I'm amazed he didn't break it the more I watch it. Almost full body weight and momentum on a turned ankle.
RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:09 am Are Seth's fingers really crossed?
Would be good news, would help to sit him completely in Rd of 64 but I don't like a player returning cold vs what could be a tough 8/9 opponent.

So maybe some light minutes.
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How would Seth know?
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:15 am
Alieberman wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:13 am Koloko should be suspended
He should self-ban. It's the only way to get ahead of Kriisa's ire.
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Everybody's ankles are different.

I have very strong ankles. I've have tripped and put almost all my weight on a turned over ankle and never even had a mild sprain.

I have a friend who routinely sprains his ankles walking up/down stairs.

Let's hope Kerr's got strong ones.
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Merkin wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:26 am How would Seth know?
Wouldn't he be exactly who the staff would leak to? He's an asshole, and I still don't know the basis for his credibility concerning anything basketball-related, but he is a basketball analyst for CBS. It's to Arizona's advantage to get in front of any questions from the committee.
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I want him healthy to play in Chicago...
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TV is going to hammer home pictures of him in a boot on the sideline. They may even talk about how he needed crutches to get there. It’s going to sound bad so it’s good we are leaking info about next week. Hopefully he can rehab hard and I almost wish he flew home to start that rehab last night
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RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:13 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:12 am Sit him until the round of 32 game.
Depending on the opponent I may try and keep him out until the sweet 16 round.
This is where I'm at. Can't risk injuring him further.

High ankle sprains are 3 to 4 weeks of recovery, at minimum.
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:twisted:
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:54 am
RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:13 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:12 am Sit him until the round of 32 game.
Depending on the opponent I may try and keep him out until the sweet 16 round.
This is where I'm at. Can't risk injuring him further.

High ankle sprains are 3 to 4 weeks of recovery, at minimum.
It’s not a high ankle sprain.
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What are you hearing Choo?
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Boom chugga Boom!
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ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:03 am :twisted:
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:54 am
RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:13 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:12 am Sit him until the round of 32 game.
Depending on the opponent I may try and keep him out until the sweet 16 round.
This is where I'm at. Can't risk injuring him further.

High ankle sprains are 3 to 4 weeks of recovery, at minimum.
It’s not a high ankle sprain.
It's his enlarged balls isn't it
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84Cat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am What are you hearing Choo?
Nothing concrete outside of what I just said. Every sprain is its own unique beast. He’s done as far as Vegas goes barring a miraculous recovery tomorrow morning (and an AZ win tonight). Every thing is up in the air after that. There’s hope for being ready for game 1, we’ll see.
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inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
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97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:08 am inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
https://pivotalphysio.com/inversion-or- ... le-sprain/

(After wasting some minutes frantically googling Iverson's injury that I didn't recall)
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Longhorned wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:11 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:08 am inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
https://pivotalphysio.com/inversion-or- ... le-sprain/

(After wasting some minutes frantically googling Iverson's injury that I didn't recall)
i mean you never want someone to get hurt and all ankle injuries are bad (especially for basketball players) but this is the one for a player of his size to get if youre gonna get one - fastest return time but its still 2 to 3 full weeks before 100% with heavy rehab and strict rest.

my guess is he won't rest the proper time and will not be 100% till after the season.

however, he is a tough SOB and if he can play will play. he will take any shot and enlist any remedy legally available. unless the ankle was broken i expected him back, a high ankle sprain woulda rendered him almost meaningless, an inversion gives me hope.
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In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
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I hope we don't draw UNC, TCU, Murray St, Seton Hall, as our 8/9 seed

TCU seems obvious if we're #1 in the South, but it's in San Diego
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ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:03 am :twisted:
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:54 am
RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:13 am
UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:12 am Sit him until the round of 32 game.
Depending on the opponent I may try and keep him out until the sweet 16 round.
This is where I'm at. Can't risk injuring him further.

High ankle sprains are 3 to 4 weeks of recovery, at minimum.
It’s not a high ankle sprain.
Wow. Best news of the day so far.
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97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:14 am
Longhorned wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:11 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:08 am inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
https://pivotalphysio.com/inversion-or- ... le-sprain/

(After wasting some minutes frantically googling Iverson's injury that I didn't recall)
i mean you never want someone to get hurt and all ankle injuries are bad (especially for basketball players) but this is the one for a player of his size to get if youre gonna get one - fastest return time but its still 2 to 3 full weeks before 100% with heavy rehab and strict rest.

my guess is he won't rest the proper time and will not be 100% till after the season.

however, he is a tough SOB and if he can play will play. he will take any shot and enlist any remedy legally available. unless the ankle was broken i expected him back, a high ankle sprain woulda rendered him almost meaningless, an inversion gives me hope.
Even if he's back, I'm not really sure I'd exect contribution in a significant way within two weeks.

The crappy part is that basically means he's unlikely to be close to his usual through the Elite Eight if we get there. Obviously how he progresses will be big, but the second aspect is that strict rest is going to take a toll on his conditioning too.

More than anything, I'm happy for him. His future is a bigger deal then our tourney. I'm happy he has a chance to contribute, because I'm sure that matters to him and I hope he manages it right to maximize his ability to contribute and minimizes future consequences.
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97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:14 am
Longhorned wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:11 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:08 am inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
https://pivotalphysio.com/inversion-or- ... le-sprain/

(After wasting some minutes frantically googling Iverson's injury that I didn't recall)
i mean you never want someone to get hurt and all ankle injuries are bad (especially for basketball players) but this is the one for a player of his size to get if youre gonna get one - fastest return time but its still 2 to 3 full weeks before 100% with heavy rehab and strict rest.

my guess is he won't rest the proper time and will not be 100% till after the season.

however, he is a tough SOB and if he can play will play. he will take any shot and enlist any remedy legally available. unless the ankle was broken i expected him back, a high ankle sprain woulda rendered him almost meaningless, an inversion gives me hope.
In the ‘79 NFL playoffs Jack Youngblood broke his leg against Dallas. He told the trainer, “Tape it up. I can still make plays.” And that’s exactly what happened. They taped it up, he played the rest of that game and led the Rams to the Super Bowl.

I bet Kerr Kriisa is just that type of motherfucker.
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he does seem to be that kind of guy, Chi - kid would pull a Kevin McHale if it was up to him
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Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:42 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:14 am
Longhorned wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:11 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:08 am inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
https://pivotalphysio.com/inversion-or- ... le-sprain/

(After wasting some minutes frantically googling Iverson's injury that I didn't recall)
i mean you never want someone to get hurt and all ankle injuries are bad (especially for basketball players) but this is the one for a player of his size to get if youre gonna get one - fastest return time but its still 2 to 3 full weeks before 100% with heavy rehab and strict rest.

my guess is he won't rest the proper time and will not be 100% till after the season.

however, he is a tough SOB and if he can play will play. he will take any shot and enlist any remedy legally available. unless the ankle was broken i expected him back, a high ankle sprain woulda rendered him almost meaningless, an inversion gives me hope.
In the ‘79 NFL playoffs Jack Youngblood broke his leg against Dallas. He told the trainer, “Tape it up. I can still make plays.” And that’s exactly what happened. They taped it up, he played the rest of that game and led the Rams to the Super Bowl.

I bet Kerr Kriisa is just that type of motherfucker.


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UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:24 pm
Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:42 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:14 am
Longhorned wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:11 am
97cats wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:08 am inversion injury was the best we all could hope for
https://pivotalphysio.com/inversion-or- ... le-sprain/

(After wasting some minutes frantically googling Iverson's injury that I didn't recall)
i mean you never want someone to get hurt and all ankle injuries are bad (especially for basketball players) but this is the one for a player of his size to get if youre gonna get one - fastest return time but its still 2 to 3 full weeks before 100% with heavy rehab and strict rest.

my guess is he won't rest the proper time and will not be 100% till after the season.

however, he is a tough SOB and if he can play will play. he will take any shot and enlist any remedy legally available. unless the ankle was broken i expected him back, a high ankle sprain woulda rendered him almost meaningless, an inversion gives me hope.
In the ‘79 NFL playoffs Jack Youngblood broke his leg against Dallas. He told the trainer, “Tape it up. I can still make plays.” And that’s exactly what happened. They taped it up, he played the rest of that game and led the Rams to the Super Bowl.

I bet Kerr Kriisa is just that type of motherfucker.


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Curt Schilling!

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I'm trying to be optimistic, so if you watch the gif when he's in the air, it looks like he hits Koloko's left knee a little. Hopefully this helped somewhat break his fall and it's not as severe as it looks. Hopefully they can work some magic behind the scenes and he is ready to go at the start of the tourney. Rough not having him in practices though.
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Was it Terrell Owens who played in a Super Bowl for the Eagles with a broken fibula?
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ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:17 am In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
if we can get ~12 mins or so of a decent run from Bal tonight, I think we beat the Buffs relatively comfortably
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Longhorned wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:30 pm Curt Schilling!

(what?)
I remember the night he dripped a little ketchup on his sock.
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goslingswagg wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:17 am In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
if we can get ~12 mins or so of a decent run from Bal tonight, I think we beat the Buffs relatively comfortably
Colorado is playing for their season, so I'd expect them to shoot the ball similarly to what we saw from Stanford yesterday.
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goslingswagg wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:17 am In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
if we can get ~12 mins or so of a decent run from Bal tonight, I think we beat the Buffs relatively comfortably
If Bal makes or breaks a game vs Colorado, we have bigger problems. Colorado is decent, but we should beat them straight up without Kerr.

No disrespect, but there isn't a player the Buffs have that should crack our lineup right now. Jabari Smith is their best, but I'd prefer Tubelis. Even minus Kerr, we have a decided advantage across the board. If it gives them anything, maybe an edge in depth, but that's about it.

I obviously have a little thing for Simpson, but neither he or Barthelemy is better than Kier right now.
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Watching Colorado, sometimes it's like "hmm would be nice to have Simpson" until looking up his abysmal shooting percentages
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:15 pm
goslingswagg wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:17 am In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
if we can get ~12 mins or so of a decent run from Bal tonight, I think we beat the Buffs relatively comfortably
If Bal makes or breaks a game vs Colorado, we have bigger problems. Colorado is decent, but we should beat them straight up without Kerr.

No disrespect, but there isn't a player the Buffs have that should crack our lineup right now. Jabari Smith is their best, but I'd prefer Tubelis. Even minus Kerr, we have a decided advantage across the board. If it gives them anything, maybe an edge in depth, but that's about it.

I obviously have a little thing for Simpson, but neither he or Barthelemy is better than Kier right now.
We're better than Colorado, but it's March and not always about who has the better starting lineup.

Execution, killer instinct, steady play for 40 minutes, hustle...if a team with inferior talent is better in these areas, they can beat just about anyone. Ask Tony Bennett.
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:15 pm
goslingswagg wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:17 am In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
if we can get ~12 mins or so of a decent run from Bal tonight, I think we beat the Buffs relatively comfortably
If Bal makes or breaks a game vs Colorado, we have bigger problems. Colorado is decent, but we should beat them straight up without Kerr.

No disrespect, but there isn't a player the Buffs have that should crack our lineup right now. Jabari Smith is their best, but I'd prefer Tubelis. Even minus Kerr, we have a decided advantage across the board. If it gives them anything, maybe an edge in depth, but that's about it.

I obviously have a little thing for Simpson, but neither he or Barthelemy is better than Kier right now.
It's not about a make or break game vs Colorado for Bal but about depth and being able to give rest to the 7 core guys without Kerr.

If he can be serviceable out there that's a huge plus for us. And could benefit us later if someone gets fouled out or double tech or another rolled ankle as another body to throw out in a crunch.

We need his minutes tonight to be a plus.
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We match their effort and intensity(which we didn’t do in Boulder) and we win. We went in to LA against USC with a great mindset and I think we see that today.
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azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:44 pm We went in to LA against USC with a great mindset and I think we see that today.
Agree. I also think our guys are gonna wanna win this one decisively for Kerr.

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RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:34 pm
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:15 pm
goslingswagg wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:17 am In the mean time believe in the development of Adama Bal. It’s what we’ve got at this point.
if we can get ~12 mins or so of a decent run from Bal tonight, I think we beat the Buffs relatively comfortably
If Bal makes or breaks a game vs Colorado, we have bigger problems. Colorado is decent, but we should beat them straight up without Kerr.

No disrespect, but there isn't a player the Buffs have that should crack our lineup right now. Jabari Smith is their best, but I'd prefer Tubelis. Even minus Kerr, we have a decided advantage across the board. If it gives them anything, maybe an edge in depth, but that's about it.

I obviously have a little thing for Simpson, but neither he or Barthelemy is better than Kier right now.
It's not about a make or break game vs Colorado for Bal but about depth and being able to give rest to the 7 core guys without Kerr.

If he can be serviceable out there that's a huge plus for us. And could benefit us later if someone gets fouled out or double tech or another rolled ankle as another body to throw out in a crunch.

We need his minutes tonight to be a plus.
I just see it this way. No matter how many minutes Kier, Larsson, Terry and Mathurin play, there's a minimum of 4 straight days of rest before a first round matchup. The first round matchup...well, you certainly hope it will be one where you don't have to extend your starters much. Frankly, I'd rather give Bal minutes in a 1-16 game.

Bottom line, I think you do what you have to do tonight. We're almost basically guaranteed a 1 seed or if the world crashes down, a 2. So it's gonna be at least a full week before you play a team that isn't supposed to be a tuneup. If you need more minutes from Kier, that's ok.

Of course, half of me also thinks we should just forfeit to keep anyone else from getting hurt. Conference tourneys...when you're pretty much on the 1 seed line, I'd as soon not play them to begin with, but if we play, minutes don't matter heavily.
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:16 pm
Of course, half of me also thinks we should just forfeit to keep anyone else from getting hurt. Conference tourneys...when you're pretty much on the 1 seed line, I'd as soon not play them to begin with, but if we play, minutes don't matter heavily.
I'm fine with forfeiting. The Pac tourney means nothing to us this year. It can only hurt us.
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Buh bye Buffy
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prh wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:25 pm Watching Colorado, sometimes it's like "hmm would be nice to have Simpson" until looking up his abysmal shooting percentages
I saw him in a Bal-type freshman role, becoming a bench rotation player as a soph and challenging for the starting lineup as a junior and senior. To me, he's best as a multiyear developmental guy.

Being at Colorado instead of here turned his development on its head. At CO, he's been pushed into the rotation immediately and having to score immediately. When he was coming here, I figured he'd get spot minutes, there, he's their 5th leading scorer and the second leading perimeter option.

His %'s are not great, but it seems clearly because Colorado can't wait for him to develop, so they just rolled him out as a freshman and live with his adjustment period to college.
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That's awesome.
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I approve
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To no one’s surprise- Kerr enters on crutches wearing a boot
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