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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:10 am
How do you think our lobs to CK will go?
ya know ive never been a fan of feeding the post from the top of the key. however, i do like high low action between our two bigs in the flow of the offense. in Lloyds system the post likes to initiate action early off the high feed at the free throw line while the opposite big ducks under aggressively. teams are keying on it now and sitting back in the paint doubling the duck. early on yesterday the wright state player guarding the big at the top of the high low never intended to guard the point and baited the feed immediately digging back crowding the duck. later on backside help came as well. AZ didnt adjust and it was hard to watch. also, the way the tournament will be officiated the small change wont be called and in those 50/50 situations AZ must toughen up if that is the action. too many possessions given away by the early high low action. take it when its there and continue offense if not. again, i was never a fan of feeding the post from the top of the key.
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97cats wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:06 am
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:10 am
How do you think our lobs to CK will go?
again, i was never a fan of feeding the post from the top of the key.
And yet, we rely fairly heavily on this.

We have a size advantage vs. TCU, but as others have pointed out, so did Seton Hall.

I really think the key stat tomorrow, unsurprisingly, is turnovers. If we keep this total around 10 for the game, we win. If it's too much higher than that, we're in trouble.
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North Carolina can’t even inbound the ball
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Watching a #1 go down, can only help with this teams preparation and focus, right?
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Frybry02 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:31 pm Watching a #1 go down, can only help with this teams preparation and focus, right?
I wouldn't count on it. Lloyd's former team didn't start playing well till about the 10 minute mark in the 2nd half on Thursday. Georgia State probably had Zags fans sweating bullets.
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Frybry02 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:31 pm Watching a #1 go down, can only help with this teams preparation and focus, right?
it cant hurt but the tournament just has that open feeling to me. tomorrow is the biggest game before the Final Four for AZ - i do believe if they can get past TCU they will make the F4 but the Horned Frogs in this spot concern me.
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Our bigs will have to play..well, big.
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97cats wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:37 pm
Frybry02 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:31 pm Watching a #1 go down, can only help with this teams preparation and focus, right?
it cant hurt but the tournament just has that open feeling to me. tomorrow is the biggest game before the Final Four for AZ - i do believe if they can get past TCU they will make the F4 but the Horned Frogs in this spot concern me.
Think that's how most of us are feeling.

Look...if we're not good enough to beat TCU with the season on the line, then maybe our expectations for the tourney were a tad inflated. We are better than the Horned Frogs and would beat them 6 times out of 10, maybe 7.

All that's been made of their defense and all the freaking out about our turnovers and unimpressive play yesterday...none of this changes that we have better players and have already beaten better teams than TCU this year.

It'll just depend on whether our guys are locked in for two full halves. Need to play mostly error-free basketball to advance in this tournament. Can't get down by a lot. Ask Baylor.

I'm also hoping the refs aren't a factor.

Alright, final prediction: AZ 85, TCU 80
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If the score is in the 80's, TCU has no shot because they aren't scoring 80 points on us
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84Cat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 pm If the score is in the 80's, TCU has no shot because they aren't scoring 80 points on us
Eh, Wright st put up 70 on us yesterday while only shooting 35% from the field

It's definitely possible
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84Cat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 pm If the score is in the 80's, TCU has no shot because they aren't scoring 80 points on us
I’d actually say the ‘70’s. Unless they are shooting over their….never mind.
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84Cat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 pm If the score is in the 80's, TCU has no shot because they aren't scoring 80 points on us
Good point. My prediction is that we'll win by around 5. Potentially a stressful evening.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:05 pm
84Cat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 pm If the score is in the 80's, TCU has no shot because they aren't scoring 80 points on us
Good point. My prediction is that we'll win by around 5. Potentially a stressful evening.
It'd be a lot less stressful in advance if we'd just stop talking about it.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:07 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:05 pm
84Cat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 pm If the score is in the 80's, TCU has no shot because they aren't scoring 80 points on us
Good point. My prediction is that we'll win by around 5. Potentially a stressful evening.
It'd be a lot less stressful in advance if we'd just stop talking about it.
As if .....
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Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
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RaisingArizona wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:03 am
dmjcat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:43 am
RaisingArizona wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:58 am The anxiety here is unwarranted IMO. Tubelis doesn't get called for a foul on that block he likely continues going off and we put the round 1 game away early. Even without Kerr we're really, really good. The tournament is full of chance of course but we're positioned very well for a deep run.

We have to play better to reach our goals but we picked a good game to play our sloppiest. We'll get it fixed.

Worth keeping in mind that TCU actually is far more turnover prone than we are . Over the course of the season they've turned it over on 21.1% of their possessions as opposed to us doing so 17.8% of the time. We play swarming defense and we may just run them off the floor.
Unwarranted???

The odds of a #1 seed reaching the Final Four is 41.67%. Thats worse than a coin flip.

Anyone not concerned is either nuts or just drinking too early in the day.

Go Cats!
Are we talking about beating TCU or making the Final Four?
Making the Final Four
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Well if so then a coin flip isn't so bad, right? A coin flip odds to do something we haven't done in over 2 decades. I'll take those odds.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
clean yo fucking ass, Yo!
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Now that's downright insulting
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That's a reason to go.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
Meh...by the time we face them -- IF we face them -- he'll be fine.
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We play much better D than Kansas. TCU will soon find out.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:14 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
Meh...by the time we face them -- IF we face them -- he'll be fine.
Yeah I meant Houston is even more likely to beat them

Don't want to face Houston in their own state
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:14 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
Meh...by the time we face them -- IF we face them -- he'll be fine.
But this means they will have to play tomorrow without him right?
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azgreg wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:18 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:14 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
Meh...by the time we face them -- IF we face them -- he'll be fine.
But this means they will have to play tomorrow without him right?

I thought pink eye was like a 24 hour thing with some eye drops.
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UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:19 pm
azgreg wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:18 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:14 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
Meh...by the time we face them -- IF we face them -- he'll be fine.
But this means they will have to play tomorrow without him right?

I thought pink eye was like a 24 hour thing with some eye drops.
Yeah he's playing but he said he couldn't see anything especially when he's going right

(It's actually his left eye)
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azgreg wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:18 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:14 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm Trent Frazier of Illinois has pink eye, his right eye is almost swollen shut. Houston looking good.
Meh...by the time we face them -- IF we face them -- he'll be fine.
But this means they will have to play tomorrow without him right?
No. He'll play tomorrow for sure.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:31 pm
Good.
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Haha...we will see you escargots.
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Props to 97- he saw Michigan all the way!
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:31 pm
Our crowd has a pretty good record buddy, just ask Peter Kiss. We shut that cocky sucker out.
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TCU is good, and I'm sure they feel they have a good handle on this matchup. However, CTL has seen this movie before, so he should be ready.

If the Cats commit to playing the outrageous defense they started the season with, we'll be fine.
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Late in the day tomorrow I want to feel like a tool for having fretted so much about TCU.
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I wish these reporters asked real questions, because of course teams are going to feel confident in March. Everyone left is coming off a win, and we all know crazy shit happens.
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Look Seton hall looked like trash in the first half against TCU and it was still close. I think the key is starting off hot and making them doubt that they can match up to us. Both teams looked very shaky the first 8 minutes of the game last night. TCU wasn’t shooting many 3s and if that’s the case, I think we will be ok. Just need to take care of the ball and play the way we’ve played in big games.
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Alieberman wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:55 pm Props to 97- he saw Michigan all the way!
you create an advantage when you call them all all :lol: many didnt turn out like i "said they could" but this one did. Michigan busted Tennessee and the breaks continue for AZ.

must capitalize tomorrow and advance in the round of 32
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Damn, I’m getting really frickin’ nervous about tomorrow vs TCU…… BTFD and let’s make the Sweet 16!
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Bangkok Wildcat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:27 pm Damn, I’m getting really frickin’ nervous about tomorrow vs TCU…… BTFD and let’s make the Sweet 16!
Hard not to be. Baylor lost, Kansas had a hell of a battle and Gonzaga is down by 10 heading to halftime. Me thinks these 8-9 seeds are pretty good!
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:17 pm Late in the day tomorrow I want to feel like a tool for having fretted so much about TCU.
This all day.
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Nobody is getting an easy game. Should expect the same
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Memphis is an incredibly bad draw as an 8/9 winner for Gonzaga though. Glad we landed in the South
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I post here very seldom because I know so little about basketball. I watched the TCU game yesterday from some very good seats. I wish you guys who know more than me could've seen it live. TCU looks very physical and very, very fast. They played great defense and are definitely hungry. Hoping our guys are ready to bring it.
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Carcassdragger wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:12 pm I post here very seldom because I know so little about basketball. I watched the TCU game yesterday from some very good seats. I wish you guys who know more than me could've seen it live. TCU looks very physical and very, very fast. They played great defense and are definitely hungry. Hoping our guys are ready to bring it.
Very cool Carcass…..am very envious. Have a blast tomorrow. 8-)

On another note, while the timing is good for me way over here with the time difference, I hate being the last game on the final day of the round…..hard to watch and enjoy the other games while stressing about your own!
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Updated list:

These are the only teams I'm worried about in the South Region:

Michigan
Ohio State
Villanova
Illinois
Houston
TCU

Teams I'm not worried about:

Bryant
Wright State
Colorado State
Longwood
Loyola Chicago
Delaware
Chattanooga
UAB
Seton Hall
Tennessee
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It's 6am and I am already having a nervous breakdown.
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