Thee Pac2 Network

[Chicat]

Is anyone even watching?

Just Machina

I’m buying stock in Lubriderm’s parent company. Kleenex too.

[Fishclamps]

He's too busy recording everything he can to keep him going well into the future

[PHXCATS]

Extremely sad the network is going off air tomorrow

Distribution was awful but the product until they stopped funding it was absolutely Amazing

Will never forget the pain I saw in the real people hurt by all this in Vegas this year

[Merkin]

[PHXCATS]

Canzano > Haters

[Fishclamps]

Oh god you would be a Canzano fan wouldn't you...

[PHXCATS]

Oh god you would be a Canzano fan wouldn't you...

He does a good podcast

[AZCatGirl]

Assuming Xfinity's guide is to be believed, this will be the final thing airing on each network:

Main: 1992 Snow Bowl - Washington at Washington St.
Arizona: 2018 Pac 12 Men's Basketball Tournament Final where we beat USC
Bay Area: The Play from 1982
Los Angeles: 2023 Football UCLA at USC
Mountain: 2017 Football Colorado at Utah
Oregon: 2020 Pac 12 Football Championship Oregon vs. Oregon St.
Washington: 1991 Football Washington at Cal

So everyone but ASU gets a goodbye game. Also love how we're the only basketball game on. I know they've aired our 97 championship game in the past so it's a bit odd they wouldn't air that here.

The Play is so iconic I would've put that on the main channel and give Washington the Snow Bowl. Bay Area would get a Monty/Lute showdown while LA would get some Wooden championship. But the fact they probably don't have rights to the latter two basketball games is what was wrong with this network in the first place. Would've been nice if these networks could've aired truly classic games instead of recent history which has not been nearly as interesting.

[Merkin]

[Bangkok Wildcat]

For all the crap with the Network, I have to say I was super appreciative of their International YouTube Channel and I got to see a ton of games that way. I will miss the heck out of it. RIP Pac12 International YouTube Channel

[EastCoastCat]

I’m watching our loss to Cal in 2014 aka the Brandon Ashley foot game. I won’t watch the end of the game that’s for sure.

No announcers. Just the live feed.

Man, was that a nice team -TJ, Nick, RHJ, Gordon, Tarczewski, etc…
But we sure didn’t shoot many outside shots. Lol.

[Irish27]

I’m watching our loss to Cal in 2014 aka the Brandon Ashley foot game. I won’t watch the end of the game that’s for sure.

No announcers. Just the live feed.

Man, was that a nice team -TJ, Nick, RHJ, Gordon, Tarczewski, etc…
But we sure didn’t shoot many outside shots. Lol.

I believe if Brandon never got hurt, they would of won it all that year. The same in 2001 when Arenas got hurt against Michigan State and Walton playing with a broken thumb.

[Merkin]

For all the crap with the Network, I have to say I was super appreciative of their International YouTube Channel and I got to see a ton of games that way. I will miss the heck out of it. RIP Pac12 International YouTube Channel

Same. Between accessing the Pac-12 International Channel via VPN and casting to my TV, and Fish, and occasionally Crackstream, I was able to watch every single FB and MBB game.

Man, was that a nice team -TJ, Nick, RHJ, Gordon, Tarczewski, etc…

The days of 4 future NBAers and TJ. Guess who showed them all. Zeus was the 2nd ranked center in his class, but with alligator arms and stone hands never made the leap.

[PHXCATS]

Man that Ashley Adamson interview was amazing

[azgreg]

Leap by the lake game is on now.

[AZCatGirl]

If anyone's curious what happened before midnight, the regional channels seemed to just stop right at midnight during generic Pac 12 ads, while the main channel aired a credits sequence featuring what looked like every single behind the scenes person that had a hand in the network's operation, while the song "Stories Of Our Lives" played. The cool video that aired after the final live broadcast didn't play at all which surprised me. Just the credits, then as the song faded out the Pac 12 logo appeared and faded out, then the "This channel is no longer available" message which is now the only thing that airs on all 7 networks.

A sad ending for a sad network. Hope all the people that got laid off can land on their feet.

[EastCoastCat]

Watched snippets of the Cal-Stanford The Play game.

Appropriate swan song for a Network that was handled like Cal’s lateral’s with the only exception that Cal scored and the Network fumbled the ball away…

[Chicat]

Watched snippets of the Cal-Stanford The Play game.

Appropriate swan song for a Network that was handled like Cal’s lateral’s with the only exception that Cal scored and the Network fumbled the ball away…

Kind of feel like the conference was more like the Stanford band. Totally out of their element but charging forward loudly and idiotically only to get trucked by the people who actually had an idea what was going on and had a plan to win.

[PHXCATS]

My screen just froze at midnight on Sean Miller for a whole then Cox had a message the provider ended the content

Really will miss watching old games during breakfast if nothing else good is on

Will espn+ and Big 12 now have that stuff.

Won't buy espn+ until day of the NAU game. Refuse to give that evil company a dime more than I need to

[wyo-cat]

PAC 12 Network sealed the fate of the conference.

I don’t miss it and am glad it’s gone.

[PHXCATS]

Don't worry about the regular people out of work

And the network was absolutely amazing besides distribution

[Merkin]

These are still up. Some require a VPN to Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl0NEEXYt_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwn0LIvNv4&t=6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyZdzWCPE0g&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9J4fb87V0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OzhCB0_pBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMaZmvi7wto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk1vBp91uU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37M9p2AAgyc

[TheCatInTheHat]

PAC 12 Network sealed the fate of the conference.

I don’t miss it and am glad it’s gone.

The presidents wanted to hype non-revenue (and low ratings) sports at each school. Larry Scott wanted to double-dip as conference commissioner and CEO of a suite of TV networks, so he told them what they wanted to hear. Ultimately, only Scott won, with his financial bonanza. Obviously you're going to get poor distribution with traditionally low-rated programming. Going forward, we'll still have the big games on the big networks, and most tiers of cable subscribers get ESPN+ thrown in. Add to that what Reed-Francois said about doing local production, rather than Learfield. I would assume that includes some streamed video to satisfy the demand for full coverage. I watched a couple of streamed baseball games, and it was fine, with a simulcast of Brian Jeffries. I don't need (or particularly want) shots of kids in the stands eating ice cream cones or a pair of "regular guys" in the booth expounding on their views on life and trying to be clever and entertaining.

[PHXCATS]

PAC 12 Network sealed the fate of the conference.

I don’t miss it and am glad it’s gone.

The presidents wanted to hype non-revenue (and low ratings) sports at each school. Larry Scott wanted to double-dip as conference commissioner and CEO of a suite of TV networks, so he told them what they wanted to hear. Ultimately, only Scott won, with his financial bonanza. Obviously you're going to get poor distribution with traditionally low-rated programming. Going forward, we'll still have the big games on the big networks, and most tiers of cable subscribers get ESPN+ thrown in. Add to that what Reed-Francois said about doing local production, rather than Learfield. I would assume that includes some streamed video to satisfy the demand for full coverage. I watched a couple of streamed baseball games, and it was fine, with a simulcast of Brian Jeffries. I don't need (or particularly want) shots of kids in the stands eating ice cream cones or a pair of "regular guys" in the booth expounding on their views on life and trying to be clever and entertaining.

You are right and wrong about this

The initial issue with the network was that Cox Comcast and Dish all signed on right away at a high price. Directv was interested but not at that price. To get Directv the price they were willing to pay meant lowering the price for Cox comas and Dish which the presidents and Scott didn’t want to do thinking Directv would eventually pay the higher price.

Then it became rating because it wasn’t on Directv so it was chicken and egg after the first year

I said it 12 years ago. They would have made up the distribution revenue lost by added advertising revenues

That was the fatal flaw of the network and really the only flaw

[Merkin]

[wyo-cat]

Do we even have The CW anymore?

[azgreg]

Do we even have The CW anymore?

Depends on your streaming service.

[Merkin]

CW is also over the air for those of us who don't have cable or satellite. 6.2 where I live.

Although I don't seem to recall watching anything on it. Just can't stand commercials.

[Chicat]

Don't worry about the regular people out of work

Hopefully they all land on their feet. I’m sure that if others in the industry think as highly of their work as you do, they will.

Businesses close. And yeah, it definitely is terrible for the rank & file. But I don’t see you holding a candle for the Pizza Hut employees in my neck of the woods who all just recently lost their jobs when all the locations in a two county area closed. Is that maybe in another thread and I just missed it? Or are you just using the recent employment status of people you don’t know to try to pretend you care more than your fellow posters who aren’t mad about our move to a non-failing conference and media channel?

[Merkin]

Like the PAC refs, someone will still need to do the games that the PAC refs did, so imagine many if not most have been hired already. Many of the broadcasters also did ESPN games so they will be good. Not sure if Matty did ESPN too, but hopefully he gets picked up.

Like Chi said, it's not like Pizza Hut closed. The former PAC teams are still playing all the sports they used to and people still need to video them and broadcast them.

[azgreg]

According to her Twitter bio Ashley Adamson is already at the B1G Network. Yogi Roth has already been working for ESPN and FOX. I imagine that continues.

[PHXCATS]

Like the PAC refs, someone will still need to do the games that the PAC refs did, so imagine many if not most have been hired already. Many of the broadcasters also did ESPN games so they will be good. Not sure if Matty did ESPN too, but hopefully he gets picked up.

Like Chi said, it's not like Pizza Hut closed. The former PAC teams are still playing all the sports they used to and people still need to video them and broadcast them.

They were all let go. It.is out there. I talked to some in Vegas

[Merkin]

Like the PAC refs, someone will still need to do the games that the PAC refs did, so imagine many if not most have been hired already. Many of the broadcasters also did ESPN games so they will be good. Not sure if Matty did ESPN too, but hopefully he gets picked up.

Like Chi said, it's not like Pizza Hut closed. The former PAC teams are still playing all the sports they used to and people still need to video them and broadcast them.

They were all let go. It.is out there. I talked to some in Vegas

No doubt. I was just saying that the B12 will be looking for more refs to do the additional games by the 4 corner schools, and they can apply for those positions if they haven't been reached out too already.

Now if the B12 doesn't want any PAC refs, I can't blame them.

[PHXCATS]

Who is talking about refs?

I am talking about regular people. Office workers and the like.

The people I talked to in Vegas who had no idea what to do and how to provide for their families. The ones who I saw the pain in their eyes

[dovecanyoncat]

Who is talking about refs?

I am talking about regular people. Office workers and the like.

The people I talked to in Vegas who had no idea what to do and how to provide for their families. The ones who I saw the pain in their eyes

Translation: Someone (namely everyone here) owes them an apology and a promise to hate on the B12. Submit your personal email addresses by DM to Machina and sign the .pdf chain letter of contrition he will circulate.

Can we move on now to something that counts.

[wyo-cat]

Who is talking about refs?

I am talking about regular people. Office workers and the like.

The people I talked to in Vegas who had no idea what to do and how to provide for their families. The ones who I saw the pain in their eyes

Jesus Fucking Christ. You’re acting like they are the only people to have ever lost their jobs or got shitcanned.

It happens. Guess what? They’ll survive.

They’ve known for a long time the network is going bye bye. If this took anyone by surprise, they’re a fucking moron.

[Chicat]

Who is talking about refs?

I am talking about regular people. Office workers and the like.

The people I talked to in Vegas who had no idea what to do and how to provide for their families. The ones who I saw the pain in their eyes

Did you touch them on the shoulder, lean in, and solemnly tell them “I will avenge you and your children, now hold your head high brave warrior…” as you wiped the tears from their cheeks?

[dovecanyoncat]

Who is talking about refs?

I am talking about regular people. Office workers and the like.

The people I talked to in Vegas who had no idea what to do and how to provide for their families. The ones who I saw the pain in their eyes

Jesus Fucking Christ. You’re acting like they are the only people to have ever lost their jobs or got shitcanned.

It happens. Guess what? They’ll survive.

They’ve known for a long time the network is going bye bye. If this took anyone by surprise, they’re a fucking moron.

They're eating out of dumpsters because of BearDownWildcats.com!!!!

[AZCatGirl]

Do we even have The CW anymore?

Tucson is losing the CW in September. Not that many here would want to watch MWC Football, but it is kinda funny no one in Tucson can watch the "Pac" even if they wanted to.

[ChooChooCat]

Who is talking about refs?

I am talking about regular people. Office workers and the like.

The people I talked to in Vegas who had no idea what to do and how to provide for their families. The ones who I saw the pain in their eyes

Jesus Fucking Christ. You’re acting like they are the only people to have ever lost their jobs or got shitcanned.

It happens. Guess what? They’ll survive.

They’ve known for a long time the network is going bye bye. If this took anyone by surprise, they’re a fucking moron.

Seriously.

The absolute facts of the matter are that even if the Pac-12 wasn't ran like Blockbuster Video and the Pac 12 survived, the Pac 12 Network was still going away forever. Now some people would have been retained to manage equipment and such or be a satellite office for Apple or ESPN or whomever, but it was literally known by everybody that the Pac-12 Network was a money pit and was going away. If the people who worked for the network did not know that by the time they talked to PHXCATS they either are mentally handicapped or they literally showed up to work and played Minesweeper all day.

[azcat49]

Right now, even Brian Jeffries is out of a job.

[Chicat]

Right now, even Brian Jeffries is out of a job.

Doesn’t he work for Learfield and the UofA?

[ChooChooCat]

Right now, even Brian Jeffries is out of a job.

Doesn’t he work for Learfield and the UofA?

Technically just Learfield. I can't imagine DRF doesn't ensure he's part of whatever future she's got planned.

[azcat49]

No question he comes back but as was said. Leerfield is done. I do wonder if he will become an employee of the school and if the new entity is university owned

[Merkin]

NOW they tell me about the open bar?

[AZCatGirl]

That's the saddest media event I've ever seen.

But hey open bar!

[wyo-cat]

It was bad enough, but What The Fuck??

Just knife the conference and move on. This is just embarrassing

[MrKyle]

Oh boy, what a disaster that was!
I keep seeing Pac-12 posts showing up on my Facebook - debating whether to unfollow it or just keep it for the comedy of them trying to prop up the dead conference...