ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.
so not drugs, not criminal, not academic, not PEDs, not improper benefits...that basically leaves nothing.
Or not all not's are actually not's.
It's "nots" unless we're talking possession. Are we talking possession?
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:42 pm
by Beachcat97
I wonder how long until we really know something.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:04 pm
by EVCat
Beachcat97 wrote:I wonder how long until we really know something.
Thursday. We will definitely know by Thursday.
I won't specify which Thursday...
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:28 pm
by BE4RDOWN21
Thursday Nov. 10th right before we play MSU
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by Chicat
For those that do know what it is, is there some reason why it can't be discussed or are you just following the lead of journos who cover the team?
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:38 pm
by Lute4God
The solution is obvious: If you live in AZ vote yes on Prop 205!
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:58 pm
by ChooChooCat
Chicat wrote:For those that do know what it is, is there some reason why it can't be discussed or are you just following the lead of journos who cover the team?
There are efforts in place to mitigate this situation. The less that is said publicly the better for the moment.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:21 pm
by KaibabKat
HIPPA
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:31 pm
by Longhorned
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:52 pm
by Hank of sb
Longhorned wrote:
A lot of people don't know that hippos have had the same diet for the last 10 million years. They stand a *proud* five five tall but, because of their weight, they are not great leapers, certainly not in a basketball sense.
Also, we all might note, hippos are very peaceful animals unless they feel misunderstood which, should that happen, either as a group or individually, they can cause quite a stir.
In other words, hippos are just as sensitive as the rest of us.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:08 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Longhorned wrote:
I don't know. He looked slender at the red/blue game.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:31 pm
by CalStateTempe
Man, Trier has really let himself go.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:38 pm
by Gilbertcat
Horse PEDs, Bonds Effect
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:49 pm
by dmjcat
G. Randazzo over at Wildcat Sports Report is hinting that the Trier suspension may
be due to prescription meds.............Triers doctor is assisting in an appeal
Good find, dmj, but you've still got a stupid signature.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:57 pm
by dmjcat
Puerco wrote:Good find, dmj, but you've still got a stupid signature.
Speaking of stupid where has DC4AZCATS gone to anyway??
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:26 pm
by RichardCranium
Hank of sb wrote:Also, we all might note, hippos are very peaceful animals unless they feel misunderstood which, should that happen, either as a group or individually, they can cause quite a stir.
From Wikipedia:
The hippopotamus is considered to be very aggressive and has frequently been reported as charging and attacking boats.[82] Small boats can be capsized by hippos and passengers can be injured or killed by the animals or drown. In one case in Niger, a boat was capsized by a hippo and 13 people were killed.[83] As hippopotamuses will often engage in raiding nearby crops if the opportunity arises, humans may also come in conflict with them on these occasions, with potential for fatalities on both sides.[
From AboutTravel:
The hippo is responsible for more human fatalities in Africa than any other large animal. Male hippos actively defend their territories which run along the banks of rivers and lakes. Females have also been known to get extremely aggressive if they sense anyone coming in between their babies, who stay in the water while she feeds on the shore. Hippos can run at speeds of over 20 miles an hour and they have enormous jaws which host up to 20-inch canines.
Fun Facts:
Hippos secrete a natural sunscreen that is colored red and eventually turns brown
The hippo's closest living relative is the whale
Hippos can kill crocodiles
Hippos consume over 100 pounds of vegetation per day.
The hippo is in danger of becoming extinct
Hippos can't jump
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:33 pm
by RichardCranium
dmjcat wrote:G. Randazzo over at Wildcat Sports Report is hinting that the Trier suspension may
be due to prescription meds.............Triers doctor is assisting in an appeal
So Asthma meds, hey? A new substance ban that was continued without realizing it was banned? Like Sharapova's heart meds - meldonium?.
Seems to me I proposed asthma meds somewhere near the beginning of this foo-fa-rah. And yes, before this all becomes rumor gospel, it is 100% appropriate that the parties involved keep it under their hat while it is worked out. There ought to be a way to work through accidental, inadvertant, honest mistakes without trashing a kids career.
I say there ought to be, but WADA, for one, is a beast to deal with - for good reason, but they are not forgiving in any way if you try to pull the wool over their eyes.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:16 am
by BigSkyCatinMT
From animaldanger.com
"Although hippos may look cute and friendly, they are definitely one animal you do not want to cross. Easily frightened and extremely aggressive, hippos will not hesitate to attack a human, especially if one of its young babies are near. Hippos pose the biggest threat to those living in the continent of Africa. ''
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:23 am
by HiCat
dmjcat wrote:G. Randazzo over at Wildcat Sports Report is hinting that the Trier suspension may
be due to prescription meds.............Triers doctor is assisting in an appeal
Appreciate the update DMJ. Positive sign (sort of), we'll see how things shake out.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:02 am
by luteformayor2
Chicat wrote:For those that do know what it is, is there some reason why it can't be discussed or are you just following the lead of journos who cover the team?
I dont really know. I actually do know what happened but i dont wanna be the guy that posts it. Its a fucking weird situation
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:51 am
by Longhorned
luteformayor2 wrote:
Chicat wrote:For those that do know what it is, is there some reason why it can't be discussed or are you just following the lead of journos who cover the team?
I dont really know. I actually do know what happened but i dont wanna be the guy that posts it. Its a fucking weird situation
But clearly what you know what happened isn't what G. Randazzo knows what happened. Otherwise you wouldn't be faced with being the guy that posts it.
Asthma meds would make sense - I take albuterol via an inhaler but it's a banned substance for Olympians and NCAA athletes. Here is a note from DePauw University on the documentation required to use albuterol as an NCAA athlete.
Not saying that's what it is but something benign with prescription yet banned without one makes sense to me.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:49 am
by Bear Down Vegas
YoDeFoe wrote:Asthma meds would make sense - I take albuterol via an inhaler but it's a banned substance for Olympians and NCAA athletes. Here is a note from DePauw University on the documentation required to use albuterol as an NCAA athlete.
Not saying that's what it is but something benign with prescription yet banned without one makes sense to me.
Albuterol is a banned substance as a performance enhancer?? My daughter inhaled that for 8 months as a baby. I thought it was just to help clear out sinuses? I'd have taken hits off little girl's meds had I known that.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:53 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Bear Down Vegas wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Asthma meds would make sense - I take albuterol via an inhaler but it's a banned substance for Olympians and NCAA athletes. Here is a note from DePauw University on the documentation required to use albuterol as an NCAA athlete.
Not saying that's what it is but something benign with prescription yet banned without one makes sense to me.
Albuterol is a banned substance as a performance enhancer?? My daughter inhaled that for 8 months as a baby. I thought it was just to help clear out sinuses? I'd have taken hits off little girl's meds had I known that.
It can assist with lung capacity, I think. Of course, it's also medically necessary for a lot of people. That's the issue with "PED"s in some cases. There's a lot of stuff that yields some athletic benefit that also is used to treat real conditions. Distinguishing the two isn't necessarily easy.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:56 am
by 84Cat
What did Salim take? I remember he had asthma pretty bad.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:03 am
by CalStateTempe
Wait wut?
NCAA considers albuterol a PED?
I mean I guess I can see the "logic" but come on.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:08 am
by YoDeFoe
Yeah albuterol is a bronchial dilator that allows for more oxygen into the blood stream (increase in VO2Max). It's also a stimulant that may boost fast twitch muscle fibers (if I remember correctly).
Though here is an article on the US Olympian Dara Torres and her use of albuterol that rebuts any proof of athletic benefits to non-asthmatics (and notes that the WADA began allowing for albuterol in the blood to certain concentrations beginning in 2010).
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:11 am
by YoDeFoe
84Cat wrote:What did Salim take? I remember he had asthma pretty bad.
YoDeFoe wrote:Yeah albuterol is a bronchial dilator that allows for more oxygen into the blood stream (increase in VO2Max). It's also a stimulant that boosts fast twitch muscle fibers (if I remember correctly).
Though here is an article on the US Olympian Dara Torres and her use of albuterol that rebuts any proof of athletic benefits to non-asthmatics (and notes that the WADA began allowing for albuterol in the blood to certain concentrations beginning in 2010).
I am not up on the literature because this is not my area of expertise, but from what I do know I would have to surmise that Dara Torres is correct. VO2 max is largely based off conditions at the avelolar capillary bed (not affected by albuterol) rather then the "size of the tubes" so to speak, carrying air to that bed where O2/CO2 exchange takes place.
Current has this: Pac-12 Season Preview: Can Oregon or Arizona break the league’s Final Four drought?
The Wildcats have a proven scorer in Allonzo Trier and they’ve added five-star freshmen Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons. Five-star big man Lauri Markkanen could also make an impact and Dusan Ristic returns up front, as does former top 10 recruit Ray Smith, who is coming off of his second ACL tear.
Current has this: Pac-12 Season Preview: Can Oregon or Arizona break the league’s Final Four drought?
The Wildcats have a proven scorer in Allonzo Trier and they’ve added five-star freshmen Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons. Five-star big man Lauri Markkanen could also make an impact and Dusan Ristic returns up front, as does former top 10 recruit Ray Smith, who is coming off of his second ACL tear.
Current has this: Pac-12 Season Preview: Can Oregon or Arizona break the league’s Final Four drought?
The Wildcats have a proven scorer in Allonzo Trier and they’ve added five-star freshmen Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons. Five-star big man Lauri Markkanen could also make an impact and Dusan Ristic returns up front, as does former top 10 recruit Ray Smith, who is coming off of his second ACL tear.
Chicat wrote:For those that do know what it is, is there some reason why it can't be discussed or are you just following the lead of journos who cover the team?
I dont really know. I actually do know what happened but i dont wanna be the guy that posts it. Its a fucking weird situation
But clearly what you know what happened isn't what G. Randazzo knows what happened. Otherwise you wouldn't be faced with being the guy that posts it.
Count me in the group that doesn't agree with Randazzo's take.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:48 pm
by EOCT
ChooChooCat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
luteformayor2 wrote:
Chicat wrote:For those that do know what it is, is there some reason why it can't be discussed or are you just following the lead of journos who cover the team?
I dont really know. I actually do know what happened but i dont wanna be the guy that posts it. Its a fucking weird situation
But clearly what you know what happened isn't what G. Randazzo knows what happened. Otherwise you wouldn't be faced with being the guy that posts it.
Count me in the group that doesn't agree with Randazzo's take.
Prof. Longhorned does actually know. I know that as fact. His neighbor Bob told me so; that is, that the Professor actually does know. But Bob also disclosed he doesn't actually know what Prof. Longhorned knows. Disclosure is so important.
Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:54 pm
by Chicat
Gilbertcat wrote:Cached Version has this: Pac-12 Season Preview: Can Oregon or Arizona break the league’s Final Four drought?
The Wildcats lack a proven scorer with Allonzo Trier gone, but they've added five-star freshmen Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons. Five-star big ...
Current has this: Pac-12 Season Preview: Can Oregon or Arizona break the league’s Final Four drought?
The Wildcats have a proven scorer in Allonzo Trier and they’ve added five-star freshmen Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons. Five-star big man Lauri Markkanen could also make an impact and Dusan Ristic returns up front, as does former top 10 recruit Ray Smith, who is coming off of his second ACL tear.
Current has this: Pac-12 Season Preview: Can Oregon or Arizona break the league’s Final Four drought?
The Wildcats have a proven scorer in Allonzo Trier and they’ve added five-star freshmen Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons. Five-star big man Lauri Markkanen could also make an impact and Dusan Ristic returns up front, as does former top 10 recruit Ray Smith, who is coming off of his second ACL tear.
