Re: lets talk '16
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:40 am
He didn't give a time, he just said today. With that said all signs point to SMU.
Remember, in Australia, today is like 5 days from now.ChooChooCat wrote:He didn't give a time, he just said today. With that said all signs point to SMU.
In Soviet Australia college picks you!Spaceman Spiff wrote:Remember, in Australia, today is like 5 days from now.ChooChooCat wrote:He didn't give a time, he just said today. With that said all signs point to SMU.
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MacDuffie head coach Jacques Rivera confirms Arizona has offered Jordy Tshimanga. First reported by @PhilKasiecki
There are none. It's the end of January, neither are deciding for quite some time.Beachcat97 wrote:
I need a JJ and/or Alkins update. Sorta thinking the Alkins buzz was much ado.
fair comment -- as an update, i think the Pac 12 has two teams ranked in this weeks AP Top 25 in #18Arizona and #23Oregonazcat49 wrote:The only thing I do not like is that the PAC is statistically #1 or #2 in most categories and is very, very deep and we are beating each other up but the pollsters do not seem to recognize any of that You would think we would have 4 or 5 teams in the top 25 yet we have 1.
More power to him I guess. I will take chance over him personallyaz91 wrote:Froling to SMU. No surprise. Maybe Larry Brown will quit or be banned by the time Froling gets there?
Good luck to Froling. The great white whale still swims free.az91 wrote:Froling to SMU. No surprise. Maybe Larry Brown will quit or be banned by the time Froling gets there?
I can think of a recruit who would be dynamite.HiCat wrote:Good luck to the big guy.
Next up?
Probably need another recruit after Ray retires.ASUHATER! wrote:On to JJ and a grad transfer.
He would have provided Matt Korcheck type depth his first couple of seasons and then contributed as an upperclassmen. We'll be just fine.Beachcat97 wrote:I'm not really sure how broken up we should be that Froling went elsewhere.
With all due respect to Korcheck, I can't remember him ever getting even near 10 minutes in a single game.ChooChooCat wrote:He would have provided Matt Korcheck type depth his first couple of seasons and then contributed as an upperclassmen. We'll be just fine.Beachcat97 wrote:I'm not really sure how broken up we should be that Froling went elsewhere.
I'm more insinuating that Froling wouldn't have played much at all his first season or two here at Arizona, hence the Korcheck type depth he would've provided.Beachcat97 wrote:With all due respect to Korcheck, I can't remember him ever getting even near 10 minutes in a single game.ChooChooCat wrote:He would have provided Matt Korcheck type depth his first couple of seasons and then contributed as an upperclassmen. We'll be just fine.Beachcat97 wrote:I'm not really sure how broken up we should be that Froling went elsewhere.
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The Tshimanga kid posted above would fill a similar role as a developmental post prospect not expected to produce early. There's only one really big recruit that matters.ChooChooCat wrote:He would have provided Matt Korcheck type depth his first couple of seasons and then contributed as an upperclassmen. We'll be just fine.Beachcat97 wrote:I'm not really sure how broken up we should be that Froling went elsewhere.
Did anyone think Cal would get Rabb and Brown a year ago at this time?ChooChooCat wrote:Beachcat97 wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:Beachcat97 wrote:
I don't think there's a world where Arizona can land both JJ and RA either fwiw.
Who did Cal have to take playing time away from Rabb & Brown? We are in a totally different situation with the talent that we have on our roster than Cal was then or ever will be in the future.Beachcat97 wrote:Did anyone think Cal would get Rabb and Brown a year ago at this time?ChooChooCat wrote:Beachcat97 wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:Beachcat97 wrote:
I don't think there's a world where Arizona can land both JJ and RA either fwiw.
Frankly, I agree with you. I don't think we'll get both, and JJ is the more important player, obviously. But the trend with these elite players is to cluster together at en elite program, so why not AZ?
Great point. Especially since no one knows what kinda shape Smith will be in or how much he'll be able to contribute or if he'll be able to play. A+ postPuerco wrote:Probably need another recruit after Ray retires.ASUHATER! wrote:On to JJ and a grad transfer.
I mean obviously it's more likely RA goes to one of the schools that has recruited him the longest. BUT what if he's a kid that aspires to win a national championship? We can't claim to know enough about what the kid wants to understand what motivates him in choosing a college.ChooChooCat wrote:
Who did Cal have to take playing time away from Rabb & Brown? We are in a totally different situation with the talent that we have on our roster than Cal was then or ever will be in the future.
It's only a trend to cluster together elite players at Kentucky. Elite level players typically don't like competing against elite level players at the same position anywhere else in the nation.
Either way Alkins is reportedly favoring St. John's or NC State, so he obviously doesn't subscribe to what you're arguing. JJ or bust.
I thought Ray Smith died last week? I'll need a link to something that shows him alive, preferably time stamped for today at 1:44 pm ET, or else I'll continue operating under the mindset that we have an extra schollie availableASUHATER! wrote:Great point. Especially since no one knows what kinda shape Smith will be in or how much he'll be able to contribute or if he'll be able to play. A+ postPuerco wrote:Probably need another recruit after Ray retires.ASUHATER! wrote:On to JJ and a grad transfer.
Good post, dc. I've stopped underestimating Miller's ability to get guys to AZ. Rabb was disappointing, but he's a NoCal guy, so there was always a chance he'd stay home and attend Berkeley, which you can't blame him for.dcZONAfan wrote:I mean obviously it's more likely RA goes to one of the schools that has recruited him the longest. BUT what if he's a kid that aspires to win a national championship? We can't claim to know enough about what the kid wants to understand what motivates him in choosing a college.ChooChooCat wrote:
Who did Cal have to take playing time away from Rabb & Brown? We are in a totally different situation with the talent that we have on our roster than Cal was then or ever will be in the future.
It's only a trend to cluster together elite players at Kentucky. Elite level players typically don't like competing against elite level players at the same position anywhere else in the nation.
Either way Alkins is reportedly favoring St. John's or NC State, so he obviously doesn't subscribe to what you're arguing. JJ or bust.
What if he thinks that the #1 skill he needs to learn to make it in the NBA is tough man to man defense? What if it's both those factors? Do you think he still wants to go play for St. John's or NC State? Also, if you're judging your "he is reportedly favoring" on something like the crystal balls at 247, CSM has shown he doesn't give a flying fuck what those say or else Kobi would be playing somewhere else next year, not the U of A.
No need to completely dismiss the idea that RA comes here. Sure, it's best to not get your hopes up, but when CSM is involved and the kid hasn't committed somewhere we have a chance and considering it would be the ultimate cherry on top I'd say that's a pretty great spot to be in
I'm not dismissing the idea, but when Alkins says Simmons couldn't steal his shine, Trier and Simon as sophmores could definitely steal his shine. There is a lot more shine for the taking at other schools at the 2-3 than Arizona, especially if JJ comes here. Alkins could easily wind up being our 5th best wing option in that scenario.dcZONAfan wrote:I mean obviously it's more likely RA goes to one of the schools that has recruited him the longest. BUT what if he's a kid that aspires to win a national championship? We can't claim to know enough about what the kid wants to understand what motivates him in choosing a college.ChooChooCat wrote:
Who did Cal have to take playing time away from Rabb & Brown? We are in a totally different situation with the talent that we have on our roster than Cal was then or ever will be in the future.
It's only a trend to cluster together elite players at Kentucky. Elite level players typically don't like competing against elite level players at the same position anywhere else in the nation.
Either way Alkins is reportedly favoring St. John's or NC State, so he obviously doesn't subscribe to what you're arguing. JJ or bust.
What if he thinks that the #1 skill he needs to learn to make it in the NBA is tough man to man defense? What if it's both those factors? Do you think he still wants to go play for St. John's or NC State? Also, if you're judging your "he is reportedly favoring" on something like the crystal balls at 247, CSM has shown he doesn't give a flying fuck what those say or else Kobi would be playing somewhere else next year, not the U of A.
No need to completely dismiss the idea that RA comes here. Sure, it's best to not get your hopes up, but when CSM is involved and the kid hasn't committed somewhere we have a chance and considering it would be the ultimate cherry on top I'd say that's a pretty great spot to be in
https://youtu.be/1aQJedIVTX4" target="_blankdcZONAfan wrote:I thought Ray Smith died last week? I'll need a link to something that shows him alive, preferably time stamped for today at 1:44 pm ET, or else I'll continue operating under the mindset that we have an extra schollie availableASUHATER! wrote:Great point. Especially since no one knows what kinda shape Smith will be in or how much he'll be able to contribute or if he'll be able to play. A+ postPuerco wrote:Probably need another recruit after Ray retires.ASUHATER! wrote:On to JJ and a grad transfer.
grad transfers are a good stop-gap measure, but unless there's a "perfect fit" type guy out there, i don't think we need to bring in a grad big just for a season. would rather see the minutes next season go towards chance, lauri, etc.'s development, along with a korchek-type guy for support, as choochoo mentioned.ASUHATER! wrote:On to JJ and a grad transfer.
Nailed it. You guys can fantasize all you want, but this is more than likely the reality of the situation.Spaceman Spiff wrote: I tend to believe Alkins is more about what happens if JJ does not come here.
He was a JUCO transfer that was a part of the program for 3 years, he was not a grad transfer or anything. I don't see what's wrong with having a 3 star freshman with upside to develop, as opposed to a guy with only 2 years of playing to be a body i.e. what Korcheck was. There's arguments for both sides, but I always take the higher ceiling option if you actually have an option and more often than not it's the guy who will be in your program for 4-5 years. Arizona has done well with 3 star guys in the past plenty of times.ASUHATER! wrote:Well Korcheck was a transfer. And if there's a suitable one out there I'd much rather have and experienced senior transfer than a raw like 2/3 star freshman.
Bingo.dirtbags wrote:grad transfers are a good stop-gap measure, but unless there's a "perfect fit" type guy out there, i don't think we need to bring in a grad big just for a season. would rather see the minutes next season go towards chance, lauri, etc.'s development, along with a korchek-type guy for support, as choochoo mentioned.ASUHATER! wrote:On to JJ and a grad transfer.
Well, RA isn't exactly a bad consolation prize, is he?ChooChooCat wrote:Nailed it. You guys can fantasize all you want, but this is more than likely the reality of the situation.Spaceman Spiff wrote: I tend to believe Alkins is more about what happens if JJ does not come here.
Compared to JJ? Just by being not JJ, it would be an unfortunate consolation prize.Beachcat97 wrote:Well, RA isn't exactly a bad consolation prize, is he?ChooChooCat wrote:Nailed it. You guys can fantasize all you want, but this is more than likely the reality of the situation.Spaceman Spiff wrote: I tend to believe Alkins is more about what happens if JJ does not come here.
But I do think JJ will be an AZ Wildcat, so here's wishing RA all the success that life at NC State can bring.
Wow. Wait, so does an unofficial visit mean he's paying with own money?ChooChooCat wrote: LMAO, I'm just going to STFU now.
I nailed the Kobi SImmons call, I might as well nail this one right?
I still doubt both RA and JJ end up here together in the end though.
Yes.Beachcat97 wrote:Wow. Wait, so does an unofficial visit mean he's paying with own money?ChooChooCat wrote: LMAO, I'm just going to STFU now.
I nailed the Kobi SImmons call, I might as well nail this one right?
I still doubt both RA and JJ end up here together in the end though.
Well, then it sure as hell does sound like he's interested. I mean, if his choices are NC State, St. John's, and AZ, which of these strikes you as the most appealing? Is it even close?ChooChooCat wrote:
Yes.
Beachcat97 wrote:Well, then it sure as hell does sound like he's interested. I mean, if his choices are NC State, St. John's, and AZ, which of these strikes you as the most appealing? Is it even close?ChooChooCat wrote:
Yes.
Starting to think this could happen.
You're right, Merk. They all have their own appeal.Merkin wrote:Beachcat97 wrote:Well, then it sure as hell does sound like he's interested. I mean, if his choices are NC State, St. John's, and AZ, which of these strikes you as the most appealing? Is it even close?ChooChooCat wrote:
Yes.
Starting to think this could happen.
Green grass, NYC or the desert? All seem pretty appealing if you are a college student.
However, if your primary desire is to make the NBA, then there are no other choices.
Free vaca on $tate$ dimeChooChooCat wrote:Yes.Beachcat97 wrote:Wow. Wait, so does an unofficial visit mean he's paying with own money?ChooChooCat wrote: LMAO, I'm just going to STFU now.
I nailed the Kobi SImmons call, I might as well nail this one right?
I still doubt both RA and JJ end up here together in the end though.
Just for fun:JMarkJohns wrote:
Getting interesting. Not sure what to think.