2016-2017 Arizona Basketball

VegasCatFan · Post by **VegasCatFan** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:57 am

I tried a few times shortly after they went on sale and I kept getting C. Ended up keeping them. Not too bad of seats, in the center of the section it looks like.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:06 am

Should be sold out soon

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:52 pm

Only 6 individual lower seats left, several up top

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:14 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Washington lost their three best players dude. Andrews, Murray and Chriss.
But they're getting one of the nation's best PGs.

Not sure a freshman Fultz even comes close to offsetting the loss of your three best players though. USC should still be pretty good, 3 of their 4 best players return and 5 of their best 7.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:53 am

USC Players (PER) - status:

Nikola Jovanovic (19.8) - declared for NBA
Jordan McLaughlin (19.3) - returning
Julian Jacobs (18.0) - declared for NBA
Bennie Boatwright (16.9) - returning
Chimezie Metu ((16.7) - returning
Katin Reinhardt (15.6) - transferred
Elijah Stewart (15.1) - returning
Darion Clark (13.6) - transferred
Malik Marquetti (12.7) - transferred
Malik Martin (11.8) - transferred
Samar Dhillon (8.2) - returning

Depending on their newcomers I would guess that they would end up being a top 50, but not a top 25 team, and could find themselves on the bubble come selection Sunday.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:49 pm

Usc has a good, not great recruiting class coming in. #32 nationally

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:32 am

NM, I was under the assumption Jovanovic pulled out of the draft, as he remains on USC's 16-17 roster on their webpage.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:35 pm

nikolajovanovic32

"I have made my decision that I will keep my name in the upcoming 2016 NBA Draft. Playing in the NBA has been my dream and I couldn't be more excited to have the opportunity to start my professional career."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BF1rvrPiyiC/

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:54 pm

So it sounds like it's OR, AZ, UCLA and everyone else. Cal, Utah, Colorado maybe next tier.

Really want some payback vs. the Ducks next season.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:05 am

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketba ... g-to-sweat" target="_blank

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:47 pm

KaibabKat wrote:nikolajovanovic32

"I have made my decision that I will keep my name in the upcoming 2016 NBA Draft. Playing in the NBA has been my dream and I couldn't be more excited to have the opportunity to start my professional career."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BF1rvrPiyiC/

Just once I want hear a guy say: "As it turns out, playing in the NBA was not my dream. Just wasn't that excited about the prospect."

I mean, come on, doesn't it go without saying that getting to the league is the ultimate goal? The issue isn't where you want it; it's whether it wants you at this point in time.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:59 pm

gumby wrote:Just once I want hear a guy say: "As it turns out, playing in the NBA was not my dream. Just wasn't that excited about the prospect."

RIP Brian Williams

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:35 pm

KaibabKat wrote:
gumby wrote:Just once I want hear a guy say: "As it turns out, playing in the NBA was not my dream. Just wasn't that excited about the prospect."
RIP Brian Williams

I meant, and then stayed in college. B-Dub left early.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:27 pm

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:29 am

Small Ball!

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:58 am

Chicat wrote:

Let the games begin!

Getting ready to make history boys!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:54 pm

Oh shit. Maybe some of the Negative Nancies were right.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:03 pm

It's fine. He should take as long as he needs to fully recover and regain strength. He'll be ready for the start of the season.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:56 pm

Merkin wrote:Oh shit. Maybe some of the Negative Nancies were right.

But is he still alive? I don't have Premium.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:50 pm

Merkin wrote:Oh shit. Maybe some of the Negative Nancies were right.

Yeah he'll likely never walk again...that or there's no reason for him to play contact until close to practice starting.

TheBlackLodge · Post by **TheBlackLodge** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:53 pm

Merkin wrote:Oh shit. Maybe some of the Negative Nancies were right.

Isn't August only 12 days away? Besides, Red-Blue isn't even until October 14th, plenty of time for RS to get his feet wet playing 5v5.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:59 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:Oh shit. Maybe some of the Negative Nancies were right.

But is he still alive? I don't have Premium.

Recent pic of Ray:

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:34 am

Wasn't sure where to put this, I just love this pic

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:10 pm

Conference schedule released. Oregon schools do not come to Arizona and we do not go to Colorado/Utah.

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... &id=201408

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:25 pm

Main Event wrote:
Wasn't sure where to put this, I just love this pic

Great pic!! Going on my start page today. Thanks for the share, Main!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:02 pm

Zero wrote:Conference schedule released. Oregon schools do not come to Arizona and we do not go to Colorado/Utah.

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... &id=201408

Because we didn't go to Oregon last season. And because CU/UT didn't come to McKale.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:23 pm

Rawle in

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:36 am

Main Event wrote:Rawle in

Yes! He's going to tear shit up...

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:06 am

Main Event wrote:
Wasn't sure where to put this, I just love this pic

Damn I didn't know SJ was the same height as AG!

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:07 am

Chicat wrote:
Main Event wrote:Rawle in
Yes! He's going to tear shit up...

So the NCAA has cleared this savage?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:36 am

Yes.

NCAA makes a decision in July rather than December. That's shocking.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:46 am

So...

AT/RA
KS/PJC
LM/RS
CC/LM
DR

I'll be interested to see if Kobi can actually beat out PJC and start at the 1. And I'd expect RA to get big minutes backing up AT. And where does Kadeem get minutes?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:28 am

PJC is going to end up 3rd on the depth chart at PG, no later than PAC season.

You can't teach small.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:39 am

Merkin wrote:PJC is going to end up 3rd on the depth chart at PG, no later than PAC season.

You can't teach small.

You're probably right, but he's shown flashes at both ends of the court. He's very quick, which makes up for his being small. It's good that PJC has to compete for his spot this year. He'll have to work harder if he wants to play. I think he'll have a good season. Loving our backcourt depth!

TheBlackLodge · Post by **TheBlackLodge** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:41 am

Merkin wrote:PJC is going to end up 3rd on the depth chart at PG, no later than PAC season.

Sounds like the makings of a good sig bet to me. You in?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:03 am

Merkin wrote:PJC is going to end up 3rd on the depth chart at PG, no later than PAC season.

You can't teach small.

End up or start? I have a hard time not seeing the first spots as KS and KA's to lose. Having Ferguson out of the picture frees KA to play off the ball, and that's the most likely long term thing for PJC to get minutes.

I feel bad for him, but physically, his ceiling is as an average defender.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:03 am

PJC and KA are upperclassmen with lots of minutes logged, so KS has his work cut out.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:12 am

PJC and KA both showed last season that they aren't UA good at PG.

The weakest position on the team.

With RA in, and Trier back, won't be any minutes available at the 2. Ray Smith can play the 3, assuming he is physically fit.

KS is the 6th ranked PG in his class, and 18th ranked player. Offers from Kentucky and Ohio State.

Now that's UA good.

TheBlackLodge wrote:
Merkin wrote:PJC is going to end up 3rd on the depth chart at PG, no later than PAC season.
Sounds like the makings of a good sig bet to me. You in?

Wouldn't be a fair bet. Not that you might or might not win, just that I have sigs turned off. Going back to TOS, some posters just had huge sigs that took up a lot of real estate, which I didn't care to see. So I don't see any.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:16 am

It is all on Kobi putting in the work and picking up Miller's defense and offense. I expect PJC to be the starter for the majority of the OOC.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:39 am

Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?

pokinmik · Post by **pokinmik** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:16 am

Nothing against PJC, but he should be a back-up here at AZ. And there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Would be nice if he could enter the game, make a three or two, maybe a layup, and drop a couple dimes each half without being a weakness on D. Hopefully Kobi will take the reigns as the starter right away (admittedly a tall order, but I think he has it in him).

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:43 pm

Merkin wrote:Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?

Because I think Miller will put him at his natural position as an off guard.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:49 pm

Zero wrote:
Merkin wrote:Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?
Because I think Miller will put him at his natural position as an off guard.

I think we can all agree KA is a better 2G than PG, just don't see any scenarios where Trier or Rawle isn't at the 2 except end of game blow outs.

Maybe if Smith isn't game ready start of the season, Rawle and Simmons aren't ready for Div I speed, and therefore Allen and Trier play as wings.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:22 pm

Merkin wrote:
Zero wrote:
Merkin wrote:Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?
Because I think Miller will put him at his natural position as an off guard.

I think we can all agree KA is a better 2G than PG, just don't see any scenarios where Trier or Rawle isn't at the 2 except end of game blow outs.

Maybe if Smith isn't game ready start of the season, Rawle and Simmons aren't ready for Div I speed, and therefore Allen and Trier play as wings.

Oh boy. If RA and KS aren't ready by the Pac schedule, gonna be a long season.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:25 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:
Zero wrote:
Merkin wrote:Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?
Because I think Miller will put him at his natural position as an off guard.

I think we can all agree KA is a better 2G than PG, just don't see any scenarios where Trier or Rawle isn't at the 2 except end of game blow outs.

Maybe if Smith isn't game ready start of the season, Rawle and Simmons aren't ready for Div I speed, and therefore Allen and Trier play as wings.
Oh boy. If RA and KS aren't ready by the Pac schedule, gonna be a long season.

Just talking beginning of season.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:45 pm

Merkin wrote:
Just talking beginning of season.

Got it. It's always dicey with freshmen. Some are AG and SJ, others are Josiah. Lately, CSM has been doing a good job of brining in guys who fit with what he's trying to do, so that's encouraging. I like what I've heard so far from KS and RA; seem like good guys.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:33 pm

Zero wrote:
Merkin wrote:Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?
Because I think Miller will put him at his natural position as an off guard.

If we're starting PJC and KA in the backcourt, I'm worried.

I would think KA vs KS is highly competitive at the start of the year with Kadeem's experience level. Hopefully KS learns fast and KA can be a combo guard to lead our second unit and make sure that we have plenty of wing depth with AT/RS/RA as our other 3 options.

Ray is our only real SF. The rest, we can play a 3 guard lineup. Having Kadeem to give us flexibility in those 3 guards should help a lot. If Kobi is ready, I'm not sure if PJC has a role or how big it is.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:27 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:I'll be interested to see if Kobi can actually beat out PJC and start at the 1

straight sillyness

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:06 pm

Jefe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I'll be interested to see if Kobi can actually beat out PJC and start at the 1
straight sillyness

Yep, Kobi is a future NBA player. PJC flat-out didn't pan out in the PAC-12.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:44 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Zero wrote:
Merkin wrote:Why would PJC start over Kadeem Allen even first game of the season?
Because I think Miller will put him at his natural position as an off guard.
If we're starting PJC and KA in the backcourt, I'm worried.

I would think KA vs KS is highly competitive at the start of the year with Kadeem's experience level. Hopefully KS learns fast and KA can be a combo guard to lead our second unit and make sure that we have plenty of wing depth with AT/RS/RA as our other 3 options.

Ray is our only real SF. The rest, we can play a 3 guard lineup. Having Kadeem to give us flexibility in those 3 guards should help a lot. If Kobi is ready, I'm not sure if PJC has a role or how big it is.

What qualifies one as a real SF and why isn't Rawle one?

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