Re: let's talk '19
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:17 pm
...and the Illuminati. Don't forget the Illuminati.
Does this mean Ira isn't going to improve from his freshman to sophomore year?U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Until the globalist bankers, federal reserve, and the bilederberg group decide it's time to engineer another global market crisis and we all lose all of money we've been putting into these gov't sanctioned retirement funds. Gov't sanctioned because we don't really own them and they are easily plundered.
He will improve just long enough for you to feel like you can count on him, then proof..... thin air. That's when the illuminati take him away and make you come trade in your tin foil hats for a 666 tattoo.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Does this mean Ira isn't going to improve from his freshman to sophomore year?U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Until the globalist bankers, federal reserve, and the bilederberg group decide it's time to engineer another global market crisis and we all lose all of money we've been putting into these gov't sanctioned retirement funds. Gov't sanctioned because we don't really own them and they are easily plundered.
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: He will improve just long enough for you to feel like you can count on him, then proof..... thin air.
Curious, does the "666 tattoo" refer to 666 Fifth Ave, for which the first son in law grossly overpaid (speaking of tin foil hats)?U.P. Zona Fan wrote:He will improve just long enough for you to feel like you can count on him, then proof..... thin air. That's when the illuminati take him away and make you come trade in your tin foil hats for a 666 tattoo.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Does this mean Ira isn't going to improve from his freshman to sophomore year?U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Until the globalist bankers, federal reserve, and the bilederberg group decide it's time to engineer another global market crisis and we all lose all of money we've been putting into these gov't sanctioned retirement funds. Gov't sanctioned because we don't really own them and they are easily plundered.
He went to Cornell. Ever heard of it?84Cat wrote: Getting will graduate from Cornell in December and be eligible to play at Arizona during the 2019-2020 season.
http://cornellbigred.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=41297" target="_blankAs a junior (2017-18)
• Named to the All-Ivy second team after averaging a career-high 16.7 points and 6.6 rebounds to go along with 2.9 assists.
• Earned a spot on the CoSIDA Academic All-America third team after garnering first-team academic all-district honors.
• Shot 49 percent from the floor, 37 percent from 3-point range and 83 percent from the free-throw line.
• Was one of only two players to rank in the top 10 in the Ivy League in points (sixth), rebounds (third) and assists (ninth), as well as sitting in the top 10 in field goal percentage (10th), free-throw percentage (sixth) and defensive rebounds (third).
• Posted three 30-point outings and 11 20-point games with five double-doubles.
• Scored 39 points at Delaware, the third-highest point total in a single contest ever recorded at Cornell, and his 17 rebounds at Ivy leader Penn were the most by a Big Red player since 2009.
• Had a pair of 30-point double-doubles, with 32 points and 10 rebounds against Ivy preseason favorite Harvard and 30 points and 11 boards vs. Niagara.
• Averaged 27.5 points, 8.0 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.0 steals in two regular season games against Ivy champ Harvard.
• Scored 26 points, grabbed eight rebounds, dished five assists, had three blocks and two steals in the win over Princeton.
• Had 23 points, 10 rebounds, four assists and three blocks in the win at Brown.
• Scored 25 points with seven rebounds and five assists in the win over Columbia.
• Collected 21 points (including a career-best five 3-pointers) along with five rebounds, five assists, a block and a steal in the win
over Toledo.
• Hit all 10 free throws as part of a 16-point, six-rebound effort in the win over Binghamton.
This is a pretty solid pickup IMO. Should be a rich man's Ryan Luther, and I think will play a lot of minutes in 2019-2020. I think that year is gearing up to be a really good team if we can land some of our current targets in the 2019 class (Mannion, Green, and another 4/5 likely).ChooChooCat wrote:Class complete.
He's announcing his reclassification to 2019 on July 20th, it's a done deal.Beachcat97 wrote:Anyone seen any news on Nico? Did he already re-classify to '19, or is that just anticipated?
Done deal to 19 or hopefully to us? Hopefully to us.ChooChooCat wrote:He's announcing his reclassification to 2019 on July 20th, it's a done deal.Beachcat97 wrote:Anyone seen any news on Nico? Did he already re-classify to '19, or is that just anticipated?
Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
No reason you can't play Mannion and Williams together. I'd start them together with no hesitation.goslingswagg wrote:Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
To just '19 for now.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Done deal to 19 or hopefully to us? Hopefully to us.ChooChooCat wrote:He's announcing his reclassification to 2019 on July 20th, it's a done deal.Beachcat97 wrote:Anyone seen any news on Nico? Did he already re-classify to '19, or is that just anticipated?
ESPN has Ellis listed as a SG. Maybe not accurate?goslingswagg wrote:Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
Yes, yes Spiff.Spaceman Spiff wrote:No reason you can't play Mannion and Williams together. I'd start them together with no hesitation.goslingswagg wrote:Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
Can play the 1 and 2, just like Nico, just like BWill.Beachcat97 wrote:ESPN has Ellis listed as a SG. Maybe not accurate?goslingswagg wrote:Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
Hopefully we have no more off the court drama. On the court, we need to do well to make the tourney. It's sort of nice not to have to worry about NC level expectations. Just let younger guys go and see what happens.CalStateTempe wrote:How’s Miller doing with ‘19 recruiting?
Has he weathered the storm from last year or does he need about one more good year on the court to recover?
God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
I starting to have something of an aversion to these combo 1/2 ideas. It kind of feels like the old days with the combo 3/4s (like Fendi).ChooChooCat wrote:Can play the 1 and 2, just like Nico, just like BWill.Beachcat97 wrote:ESPN has Ellis listed as a SG. Maybe not accurate?goslingswagg wrote:Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
He should consider reclassifying the date to July 19th.ChooChooCat wrote:He's announcing his reclassification to 2019 on July 20th, it's a done deal.Beachcat97 wrote:Anyone seen any news on Nico? Did he already re-classify to '19, or is that just anticipated?
Nico and Brandon are 1's. You can play more than one 1 together, and it equals 2. Combo guards are a different story.SCCats wrote:I starting to have something of an aversion to these combo 1/2 ideas. It kind of feels like the old days with the combo 3/4s (like Fendi).ChooChooCat wrote:Can play the 1 and 2, just like Nico, just like BWill.Beachcat97 wrote:ESPN has Ellis listed as a SG. Maybe not accurate?goslingswagg wrote:Seems like Boogie Ellis would be a decent consolation prize if we miss out on Nico. I would guess we just get one of those two considering Bwill is likely to be back. I know Miller may want both but that would be a tough sell IMO. Either way, seems very likely we add at least one PG in 2019.Beachcat97 wrote:I think the reclassification part is the only done deal. We may still lead, but others remain involved with him. He's a top 5 PG right now regardless of class.
Play one position and play it at an elite level, whatever that position is.
Amen. I've been tripping about our inability to get back to the FF since at least '05 (ie: the Illinois game). Now we're up to 21 years removed from the NC and 17 years removed from the last FF. That's some crazy sh*t. With the way things were rolling in the late 90s/early 00s, I really thought we'd be among Kansas, Kentucky, Duke and UNC, schools that get to the FF consistently every 4 to 5 years. And I think Miller was right bloody there before "the troubles" arose. He was about to land a monster '18 class, and all things considered, he sorta still did! I'm blown away by Miller's resilience and consistency. The guy is just a fierce competitor, and I hope he stays at AZ for many years.CalStateTempe wrote:God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
I think he lands two 5 star players with one probably being a one and done and the rest are similar to the guys we landed in the 2018 class.CalStateTempe wrote:How’s Miller doing with ‘19 recruiting?
Has he weathered the storm from last year or does he need about one more good year on the court to recover?
God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
That is not a bad class composition. I almost wonder if we landed too many 5 stars for a period of time. It's hard for me to say too many 5 stars, but there were underlying issues.ChooChooCat wrote:I think he lands two 5 star players with one probably being a one and done and the rest are similar to the guys we landed in the 2018 class.CalStateTempe wrote:How’s Miller doing with ‘19 recruiting?
Has he weathered the storm from last year or does he need about one more good year on the court to recover?
God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
Thanks guys appreciate it.Spaceman Spiff wrote:That is not a bad class composition. I almost wonder if we landed too many 5 stars for a period of time. It's hard for me to say too many 5 stars, but there were underlying issues.ChooChooCat wrote:I think he lands two 5 star players with one probably being a one and done and the rest are similar to the guys we landed in the 2018 class.CalStateTempe wrote:How’s Miller doing with ‘19 recruiting?
Has he weathered the storm from last year or does he need about one more good year on the court to recover?
God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
CCC, trying to read into that... Do you think Green is 1AD? or we would land one of Mcdaneils or Robinson-Earl and no green or mannion? Second thought, maybe Mannion ends up a 4* by jumping class. Really want one of the athletic front court players- McD/R-E.ChooChooCat wrote:I think he lands two 5 star players with one probably being a one and done and the rest are similar to the guys we landed in the 2018 class.CalStateTempe wrote:How’s Miller doing with ‘19 recruiting?
Has he weathered the storm from last year or does he need about one more good year on the court to recover?
God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
Yes, Green is a 1&D to me. I'm far from 100% on us landing him, but I think with his family in Phx, and the connection with Mannion, we have an edge on the competition when it ultimately comes down to it.baycat93 wrote:CCC, trying to read into that... Do you think Green is 1AD? or we would land one of Mcdaneils or Robinson-Earl and no green or mannion? Second thought, maybe Mannion ends up a 4* by jumping class. Really want one of the athletic front court players- McD/R-E.ChooChooCat wrote:I think he lands two 5 star players with one probably being a one and done and the rest are similar to the guys we landed in the 2018 class.CalStateTempe wrote:How’s Miller doing with ‘19 recruiting?
Has he weathered the storm from last year or does he need about one more good year on the court to recover?
God damn my wildcat heart can’t take another season like the last one or two. Just give me a good season without off the court drama and with no major injuries and a good tourney run and I’m happy.
Totally agree SS. Mannion/Green is great.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mannion and Green alone would be a fantastic class. I'm not of the mind Randolph or Akot necessarily will be at the point they should leave. We definitely should return Williams, Doutrive, Barcello, Jeter and Lee with Gettings coming in. If Randolph and Akot both returned, that's a really good 10 deep with only Mannion and Green.
As bad as things were with the FBI, a single "down" year to that would be another borderline miracle by SM.
Damn, totally forgot about Smith and Thielmans. I'll blame it on the dead offseason board.baycat93 wrote:Totally agree SS. Mannion/Green is great.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mannion and Green alone would be a fantastic class. I'm not of the mind Randolph or Akot necessarily will be at the point they should leave. We definitely should return Williams, Doutrive, Barcello, Jeter and Lee with Gettings coming in. If Randolph and Akot both returned, that's a really good 10 deep with only Mannion and Green.
As bad as things were with the FBI, a single "down" year to that would be another borderline miracle by SM.
On Randolph/Akot... just feels like we don't get guys like that to return often. Even one would be great.
There is also Thielmans and Smith. Although I wonder if Smith would be graduate transfer candidate.
1/2 Brandon Williams 6'1" 175 So
1/2 Alex Barcello 6'2 190 Jr
2/3 Devonair Doutrive 6'5" 175 So
2/3 Dylan Smith 6'5" 200 Rssr
3/4 Omar Thielmans 6'7" 200 So
4/5 Ira Lee 6'7" 235 jr
4/5 Stone Gettings 6'9 235 Sr
5 Chase Jeter 6'10 240 RsSr
My bet is one of Akot/Randolph will be back for their junior year. Smith's involvement on that team would solely depend on the role he has this upcoming year. If he's not playing much I'd certainly peg him as a grad transfer candidate. Will also be interesting to see what happens with Barcello too.baycat93 wrote:Totally agree SS. Mannion/Green is great.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mannion and Green alone would be a fantastic class. I'm not of the mind Randolph or Akot necessarily will be at the point they should leave. We definitely should return Williams, Doutrive, Barcello, Jeter and Lee with Gettings coming in. If Randolph and Akot both returned, that's a really good 10 deep with only Mannion and Green.
As bad as things were with the FBI, a single "down" year to that would be another borderline miracle by SM.
On Randolph/Akot... just feels like we don't get guys like that to return often. Even one would be great.
There is also Thielmans and Smith. Although I wonder if Smith would be graduate transfer candidate.
1/2 Brandon Williams 6'1" 175 So
1/2 Alex Barcello 6'2 190 Jr
2/3 Devonair Doutrive 6'5" 175 So
2/3 Dylan Smith 6'5" 200 Rssr
3/4 Omar Thielmans 6'7" 200 So
4/5 Ira Lee 6'7" 235 jr
4/5 Stone Gettings 6'9 235 Sr
5 Chase Jeter 6'10 240 RsSr
So much is unclear. We have a lot of guys with something to prove right now.ChooChooCat wrote:My bet is one of Akot/Randolph will be back for their junior year. Smith's involvement on that team would solely depend on the role he has this upcoming year. If he's not playing much I'd certainly peg him as a grad transfer candidate. Will also be interesting to see what happens with Barcello too.baycat93 wrote:Totally agree SS. Mannion/Green is great.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mannion and Green alone would be a fantastic class. I'm not of the mind Randolph or Akot necessarily will be at the point they should leave. We definitely should return Williams, Doutrive, Barcello, Jeter and Lee with Gettings coming in. If Randolph and Akot both returned, that's a really good 10 deep with only Mannion and Green.
As bad as things were with the FBI, a single "down" year to that would be another borderline miracle by SM.
On Randolph/Akot... just feels like we don't get guys like that to return often. Even one would be great.
There is also Thielmans and Smith. Although I wonder if Smith would be graduate transfer candidate.
1/2 Brandon Williams 6'1" 175 So
1/2 Alex Barcello 6'2 190 Jr
2/3 Devonair Doutrive 6'5" 175 So
2/3 Dylan Smith 6'5" 200 Rssr
3/4 Omar Thielmans 6'7" 200 So
4/5 Ira Lee 6'7" 235 jr
4/5 Stone Gettings 6'9 235 Sr
5 Chase Jeter 6'10 240 RsSr
Nice. Gotta good feeling about him. Think he’s ours.ChooChooCat wrote:Mannion officially moved into the class of 2019 today.
It would be nice to land a timely commit to kick '19 off right. He would fit so well with a soph BWill.Beachcat97 wrote:Nice. Gotta good feeling about him. Think he’s ours.ChooChooCat wrote:Mannion officially moved into the class of 2019 today.