let's talk '19

Azgirl · Post by **Azgirl** » Mon May 13, 2019 12:00 pm

Great Potential News CCC!!!

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon May 13, 2019 12:16 pm

This team is so crazy. 2017-19 Arizona Wildcat basketball made John Beilein quit college hoops.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 13, 2019 2:12 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:This team is so crazy. 2017-19 Arizona Wildcat basketball made John Beilein quit college hoops.

Nah. Michigan was going to lose 2 or 3 of its best players. I bet he just got tired of the roster instability and systemic corruption (not necessarily at UM, but plenty of other places) in college hoops. Why not go get paid for a few years? If he still feels good after three or four seasons of weak finishes in Cleveland, he can coach a few more years of college. Reminds me of what Mike Montgomery did a little. No one thought he'd ever leave Stanford.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon May 13, 2019 3:06 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:This team is so crazy. 2017-19 Arizona Wildcat basketball made John Beilein quit college hoops.
I bet he just got tired of the roster instability and systemic corruption (not necessarily at UM, but plenty of other places) in college hoops. .

Aka, the 2017-19 Arizona Wildcats

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 13, 2019 3:25 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:This team is so crazy. 2017-19 Arizona Wildcat basketball made John Beilein quit college hoops.
I bet he just got tired of the roster instability and systemic corruption (not necessarily at UM, but plenty of other places) in college hoops. .
Aka, the 2017-19 Arizona Wildcats

Lol.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon May 13, 2019 3:32 pm

Boogie Ellis to Memphis

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:07 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
StickItInTheyFace wrote:Any news on how Brown & Baker's visits went?
If I was a betting man I'd say we land both, but there's still some things at play to be worked through, so don't go celebrating yet.

Like creating space for them or other things?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:15 pm

prh wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
StickItInTheyFace wrote:Any news on how Brown & Baker's visits went?
If I was a betting man I'd say we land both, but there's still some things at play to be worked through, so don't go celebrating yet.
Like creating space for them or other things?

Least of our concerns. Other things on Brown and Baker's end. Baker will take all his visits after being lied to by Kentucky, so he wants to make 100% sure this time. Brown will be a well thought out decision and figuring out which priorities matter.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:17 pm

If Brown insists on playing this coming season, does Arizona take him?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:32 pm

baycat93 wrote:If Brown insists on playing this coming season, does Arizona take him?

Yes, but that doesn't sound like that's the case. If he decides he wants to play next season no matter what he probably stays at Nevada.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:55 pm

Baker is sit 1 play 2 correct?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:59 pm

prh wrote:Baker is sit 1 play 2 correct?

Maybe 3.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Mon May 13, 2019 5:42 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
prh wrote:Baker is sit 1 play 2 correct?
Maybe 3.

Getting that extra year would be a big deal...fingers crossed that is the case.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 13, 2019 6:22 pm

Chicat wrote:Boogie Ellis to Memphis

This Memphis class reminds me of that Rabb/Brown class at Cal a few years back.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 13, 2019 7:11 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Chicat wrote:Boogie Ellis to Memphis
This Memphis class reminds me of that Rabb/Brown class at Cal a few years back.

Except like 10 recruits. They not only have a ton of talent, a ton of players.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 13, 2019 7:23 pm

goslingswagg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
prh wrote:Baker is sit 1 play 2 correct?
Maybe 3.
Getting that extra year would be a big deal...fingers crossed that is the case.

I know the NCAA is stupid, but I'd like to think he would have a good shot. He'll have missed two full years of 5 this way, so I'd like to see him have a shot at actually playing 4.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:43 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
prh wrote:Baker is sit 1 play 2 correct?
Maybe 3.
Getting that extra year would be a big deal...fingers crossed that is the case.
I know the NCAA is stupid, but I'd like to think he would have a good shot. He'll have missed two full years of 5 this way, so I'd like to see him have a shot at actually playing 4.

I think that's an easy approval when the time comes if Baker and Arizona both want him to get that extra year.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue May 14, 2019 7:23 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Maybe 3.
Getting that extra year would be a big deal...fingers crossed that is the case.
I know the NCAA is stupid, but I'd like to think he would have a good shot. He'll have missed two full years of 5 this way, so I'd like to see him have a shot at actually playing 4.
I think that's an easy approval when the time comes if Baker and Arizona both want him to get that extra year.

I'd really hope so. Missing a full year with injury should be a no brainer medical redshirt, and his transfer shouldn't invalidate it.

When both are legit reasons, you would like to think the NCAA makes it simple.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue May 14, 2019 10:25 am

I'd be surprised if he planned to be at Arizona for four years anyways though. If he's here for one to sit and two to play (after spending two years at UK), that's probably the max he'd like to spend before earning a paycheck.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 am

YoDeFoe wrote:I'd be surprised if he planned to be at Arizona for four years anyways though. If he's here for one to sit and two to play (after spending two years at UK), that's probably the max he'd like to spend before earning a paycheck.

My thoughts as well. That bridge will be crossed when he gets there.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue May 14, 2019 10:51 am

Maybe not the right thread for this, but which other Pac teams are still tinkering with their '19 rosters? Can we already get a lay of the land for next season, or is there still too much in flux? Isn't UW still chasing some big fish? How about Oregon?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 11:07 am

Beachcat97 wrote:Maybe not the right thread for this, but which other Pac teams are still tinkering with their '19 rosters? Can we already get a lay of the land for next season, or is there still too much in flux? Isn't UW still chasing some big fish? How about Oregon?

UW may end up with Jaden McDaniels, it's up in the air between them and UK at the moment. Oregon may land Admon Gilder, the A&M transfer. There's a few other things going on as well, but those are the big two at the moment.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue May 14, 2019 11:30 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Maybe not the right thread for this, but which other Pac teams are still tinkering with their '19 rosters? Can we already get a lay of the land for next season, or is there still too much in flux? Isn't UW still chasing some big fish? How about Oregon?
UW may end up with Jaden McDaniels, it's up in the air between them and UK at the moment. Oregon may land Admon Gilder, the A&M transfer. There's a few other things going on as well, but those are the big two at the moment.

Thanks, Choo.

Any way you cut it, I'm not sure how we don't end up being the Pac favorite, but it's nice that we'll have a competitive league again, at least among the top 3 or 4. Would be nice to get 4 or 5 teams into the tourney too.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue May 14, 2019 12:08 pm

I don’t see much from UW next season. They lost a ton. Newell was their best player. Thybuiile made their defense better than average. What am I missing? Seems like they have a major rebuild.

Same for ASU. Cheatham and Dort did a ton of their dirty work last year. Martin will have his moments but also some nights shooting 3-14.

USC remains a mystery to me. Always talented but with a subpar coach.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue May 14, 2019 12:08 pm

I don’t see much from UW next season. They lost a ton. Newell was their best player. Thybuiile made their defense better than average. What am I missing? Seems like they have a major rebuild.

Same for ASU. Cheatham and Dort did a ton of their dirty work last year. Martin will have his moments but also some nights shooting 3-14.

USC remains a mystery to me. Always talented but with a subpar coach.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue May 14, 2019 12:17 pm

USC has a monster freshman class.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Tue May 14, 2019 12:50 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:I'd be surprised if he planned to be at Arizona for four years anyways though. If he's here for one to sit and two to play (after spending two years at UK), that's probably the max he'd like to spend before earning a paycheck.
My thoughts as well. That bridge will be crossed when he gets there.

I just have seen a lot of his highlight tapes and some tape of his from UK and I struggle to see a professional basketball player...I mean I'm sure he could make decent $$ in Europe but even big time Europe ball seems far-fetched for him. He is a very below average athlete for high major college bball.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 12:58 pm

Jemarl Baker is going to be 21 this June. That means he'll be 22 next year whens he's entering his first year eligible to play after sitting out. If he gets a waiver for 3 more years he could be 24 his senior year.

For Udub, it depends on how good former 5★ and Kentucky transfer Quade Green will be.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 1:58 pm

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:I'd be surprised if he planned to be at Arizona for four years anyways though. If he's here for one to sit and two to play (after spending two years at UK), that's probably the max he'd like to spend before earning a paycheck.
My thoughts as well. That bridge will be crossed when he gets there.
I just have seen a lot of his highlight tapes and some tape of his from UK and I struggle to see a professional basketball player...I mean I'm sure he could make decent $$ in Europe but even big time Europe ball seems far-fetched for him. He is a very below average athlete for high major college bball.

That's great, but that doesn't mean he'd want to spend 6 years in college and not making any sort of money. Maybe he does though? That bridge will be crossed when he's in that position. He can't even appeal for an extra year until the end anyways.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Tue May 14, 2019 3:16 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:I'd be surprised if he planned to be at Arizona for four years anyways though. If he's here for one to sit and two to play (after spending two years at UK), that's probably the max he'd like to spend before earning a paycheck.
My thoughts as well. That bridge will be crossed when he gets there.
I just have seen a lot of his highlight tapes and some tape of his from UK and I struggle to see a professional basketball player...I mean I'm sure he could make decent $$ in Europe but even big time Europe ball seems far-fetched for him. He is a very below average athlete for high major college bball.
That's great, but that doesn't mean he'd want to spend 6 years in college and not making any sort of money. Maybe he does though? That bridge will be crossed when he's in that position. He can't even appeal for an extra year until the end anyways.

Of course, it's all a moot point because it's up to him. Only point I'm making is that if he does go pro early, it would be more of a Chase Jeter situation vs. him being a valuable commodity as a pro prospect.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:03 pm

tricat · Post by **tricat** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:16 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:UW may end up with Jaden McDaniels, it's up in the air between them and UK at the moment. Oregon may land Admon Gilder, the A&M transfer. There's a few other things going on as well, but those are the big two at the moment.

Didn't he already commit to Gonzaga last week?

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:17 pm

Miller gonna kick out everyone from last years team but Williams and Jeter

Not fired, but they won’t be receiving a paycheck anymore so it’ll just work itself naturally

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:25 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Miller gonna kick out everyone from last years team but Williams and Jeter

Not fired, but they won’t be receiving a paycheck anymore so it’ll just work itself naturally

Doutrive can be a really, really good player if he stays 4 years. He’s a great rebounder and could also become a solid defender. He’ll be a nightmare matchup for opponents.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:30 pm

Alieberman wrote:

Nice!

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:34 pm

Guess Doutrive is gone. Brown could be next and Smith would go.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:34 pm

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:43 pm

prh wrote:

Welcome aboard! A good solid add for our future.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:51 pm

NYCat wrote:Guess Doutrive is gone. Brown could be next and Smith would go.

Why wouldn’t it be Smith’s spot Baker is taking?

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue May 14, 2019 5:58 pm

Chicat wrote:
NYCat wrote:Guess Doutrive is gone. Brown could be next and Smith would go.
Why wouldn’t it be Smith’s spot Baker is taking?

I'd guess it's Baker's eligibility overlapping with DD. Only reason it would affect Dylan is scholarship count, DD is count and playing time. Not to mention the extra-curricular stuff Choo has alluded to.

Although this is a relevant moment to point out Dylan had fewer assists this year than last, despite 10 more MPG. ATO of 0.4.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 6:01 pm

Chicat wrote:
NYCat wrote:Guess Doutrive is gone. Brown could be next and Smith would go.
Why wouldn’t it be Smith’s spot Baker is taking?

Sounds like Doutrive is gone and isn't due do to his play

ChooChooCat wrote: Remember Miller took who he could get this past recruiting class. Things don't always work out between both parties when they're kind of forced together in the first place, when they normally wouldn't be.

IrishAzCat · Post by **IrishAzCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue May 14, 2019 7:38 pm

Awesome news about Baker. Brown coming next?

Dosia · Post by **Dosia** » Tue May 14, 2019 7:55 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Miller gonna kick out everyone from last years team but Williams and Jeter

Not fired, but they won’t be receiving a paycheck anymore so it’ll just work itself naturally

Lee earned his check

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 8:14 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Awesome news about Baker. Brown coming next?

Not done yet, but I feel pretty good about it.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue May 14, 2019 8:23 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Awesome news about Baker. Brown coming next?
Not done yet, but I feel pretty good about it.

Choo! You're flirting with 97Cats-level insider status!

Thanks for these updates, brother.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Tue May 14, 2019 8:25 pm

So Baker might be eligible to play next year?

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Tue May 14, 2019 8:30 pm

F Jake DesJardins (Sr.)
F Stone Gettings (Sr.)
G Max Hazzard (Sr.)
C Chase Jeter (Sr.)
G Dylan Smith (Sr.)
G Alex Barcello (Jr.)
F Ira Lee (Jr.)
G Brandon Randolph (Jr.)
G Jemarl Baker Jr. (So.)
G Devonaire Doutrive (So.)
G Brandon Williams (So.)
G Terry Armstrong (Fr.)
G Josh Green (Fr.)
C Christian Koloko (Fr.)
G Nico Mannion (Fr.)
F Zeke Nnaji (Fr.)

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue May 14, 2019 8:39 pm

Alieberman wrote:So Baker might be eligible to play next year?

Thought he wasn't eligible till '20.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue May 14, 2019 8:39 pm

Alieberman wrote:So Baker might be eligible to play next year?

Nope, he's sitting out next year.

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