Re: 2016-2017 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:00 pm
Much much much better tonight. Didn't like a few things, mainly the D in the first half, but so much better today!
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I think this is the starting lineup Miller and his staff foreseen in the offseason that never took flight.baconus66 wrote:The question would be who do you bench?
Bring Kadeem off the bench or sit Rawle and start Kadeem at the 2
I like
PJC
Allen
Trier
Markkanen
Ristic
I think I would describe this lineup as having two and a half defensive problems.baconus66 wrote:The question would be who do you bench?
Bring Kadeem off the bench or sit Rawle and start Kadeem at the 2
I like
PJC
Allen
Trier
Markkanen
Ristic
This story ends with Final Four announcers boring the shit out of us by rehashing for the 3,000th time how at first team chemistry was disrupted when Miller reinserted Trier into the starting lineup but the team figured it out right before the conference tourney and have been on a roll ever since.NYCat wrote:NYCat wrote:7 ARIZONA WILDCATS
LAST WEEK: 9
RECORD: 23–3
Staying on the topic of efficiency splits, I used HoopLens.com data to look at Arizona since sophomore shooting guard Allonzo Trier’s ’16–17 debut on Jan. 21. Although the Wildcats’ offense has been better (as expected) with him on the floor, they’ve been a superior defensive team—and a superior team overall—when he’s on the bench
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... lor-oregon" target="_blank
PPG, this also corroborates better defense, and overall team (point differential) without Trier - but also offensive PPG is also down.
All this to say that the team has taken a noticeable step back since his return. Although today so far PJC is moving the ball slightly better.
Spotlights the importance of rebounding and taking care of the ball. Increases our possessions, limits the opponent's. So even when they shoot a decent percentage, they only score 59 points.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Reviewing the box score, it's interesting that the two teams had virtually identical fg%.
The difference was that we crushed them on the glass and shot the 3 very well. Between outrebounding them by 14 and them having 3 more TO's, we won that game with total possessions.
It was a good, positive game, but I would like to see us bring the opposition fg% down further. It's still a work in progress, but it's nice to say that at 13-1 and 24-3.
Cub Reporter here, Gumby: http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 8b3d1.html" target="_blankgumby wrote:Damn. Best defender. Don't see the reference to stitches.
EOCT wrote:Cub Reporter here, Gumby: http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 8b3d1.html" target="_blankgumby wrote:Damn. Best defender. Don't see the reference to stitches.
".....assuming he's safe from infection....."
Stitches, blood, "poking out". Sounds clearly like a compound where the head of the bone pushed out through the skin at one of the joints. I'd think Deem and RJC would have sought advice and help fast and not touched the bone(especially) since it's extremely prone to infection.
I experienced this exact compound dislocation blocking a volleyball spike. I pushed the bone back through the wound and pulled my right pinky hard to reset the dislocation so I could finish the game. When I got to a doctor his first words were "Brilliant. Don't you know you never, ever touch a protruding bone?!". Actually, I did know-----which made my action even more brilliant.
FWIW, I was in a Tournament two days later and and felt OK passing, setting and spiking. Pain was OK, but of course I got a buzz to help it out.
First, EOCT, kudos to you....you sound like a real stud! Sincerely.EOCT wrote:Cub Reporter here, Gumby: http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 8b3d1.html" target="_blankgumby wrote:Damn. Best defender. Don't see the reference to stitches.
".....assuming he's safe from infection....."
Stitches, blood, "poking out"(from somewhere else). Sounds clearly like a compound where the head of the bone pushed through out through the skin at one of the joints. I'd think Deem and RJC would have sought advice and help fast and not touched the bone(especially) since it's extremely prone to infection.
I experienced this exact compound dislocation blocking a volleyball spike. I pushed the bone back through the wound and pulled my right pinky hard to reset the dislocation. When I got to a doctor his first words were "Brilliant. Don't you know you never, ever touch a protruding bone?!". Actually, I did know-----which made my action even more brilliant.
FWIW, I was in a Tournament two days later and and felt OK passing, setting and spiking. Pain was OK, but of course I got a buzz to help it out.
The media is the enemy of the American people!gumby wrote:I promise to be interested, if it that happens.
Better game! (Or does that imply something I shouldn't imply?) Biggest margin of victory since Reagan! Didn't like the fake fouls, but the refs are just covering for the failure that is Larry Scott and the Pac-12 contract.
Lock him up!
Can't fathom why Alkins wouldn't start at this juncture. So solid. Terrific game by Parker ... and on the road! I'm going to come out and say it. That Pollard guy on Wazzu? Worst player on the floor for both teams.
Lauri was aggressive. Really took it to Hawkinson. Kobi is getting to be money with that corrner three. Chance is really developing a nice touch.
Crushed them on the boards, with Trier nabbing a bunch. Overall, defense was solid. I'm pleased, so coach should be pleased. Or is it the other way around?
Though there was the one possession when ...
Damn dude!EOCT wrote: I experienced this exact compound dislocation blocking a volleyball spike. I pushed the bone back through the wound and pulled my right pinky hard to reset the dislocation. When I got to a doctor his first words were "Brilliant. Don't you know you never, ever touch a protruding bone?!". Actually, I did know-----which made my action even more brilliant.
FWIW, I was in a Tournament two days later and and felt OK passing, setting and spiking. Pain was OK, but of course I got a buzz to help it out.
Last page.CatFanOneMil wrote:Completely off topic...buuut...pgu twitter account suggesting Ace died...anyone hear that?
I just think Ristic is a more dangerous scoring threat coming off the bench. He's for scoring. Chance is looking like a complete player, and he complements Markkanen in his new position on the block. The spacing wouldn't work with Ristic and Markkanen both down low, even when Ristic moves to the high post. We saw that last year with him and Tarc.Main Event wrote:Everybody hop on board the #KeepChanceFree wagon
Fears of what?waysouthcat wrote:But did we beat the awful Huskies by enough to assuage my fears?
Sorry, I'm just trying to understand. What do you mean by lack of zone defense? Isn't Miller's switch to the 2-3 how we won the game? With two starters out with injuries?waysouthcat wrote:General undifferentiated anxieties of the program trajectory, lack of zone defense and the whole vibe of the thing.
I have an infant and haven't slept all week. I shouldn't be up.waysouthcat wrote:I guess my sarcasm needs work. I am mocking recent complaints of various posters regarding zone defense, not beating teams by enough, etc, etc.
Back to your regular programming.
Not bad for a down yearazgreg wrote:I like our chances of finishing in the top five of the conference.
Why would you be mocking posters for wanting zone defense immediately after Miller successfully employed a zone for the first time? That makes no sense.waysouthcat wrote:I guess my sarcasm needs work. I am mocking recent complaints of various posters regarding zone defense, not beating teams by enough, etc, etc.
Back to your regular programming.
Yuck. I'm trying to eat my cornflakes here!EOCT wrote:Cub Reporter here, Gumby: http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 8b3d1.html" target="_blankgumby wrote:Damn. Best defender. Don't see the reference to stitches.
".....assuming he's safe from infection....."
Stitches, blood, "poking out"(from somewhere else). Sounds clearly like a compound where the head of the bone pushed through out through the skin at one of the joints. I'd think Deem and RJC would have sought advice and help fast and not touched the bone(especially) since it's extremely prone to infection.
I experienced this exact compound dislocation blocking a volleyball spike. I pushed the bone back through the wound and pulled my right pinky hard to reset the dislocation. When I got to a doctor his first words were "Brilliant. Don't you know you never, ever touch a protruding bone?!". Actually, I did know-----which made my action even more brilliant.
FWIW, I was in a Tournament two days later and and felt OK passing, setting and spiking. Pain was OK, but of course I got a buzz to help it out.
Media ARE! Plural, baby! And we are everywhere!Longhorned wrote:The media is the enemy of the American people!gumby wrote:I promise to be interested, if it that happens.
Better game! (Or does that imply something I shouldn't imply?) Biggest margin of victory since Reagan! Didn't like the fake fouls, but the refs are just covering for the failure that is Larry Scott and the Pac-12 contract.
Lock him up!
Can't fathom why Alkins wouldn't start at this juncture. So solid. Terrific game by Parker ... and on the road! I'm going to come out and say it. That Pollard guy on Wazzu? Worst player on the floor for both teams.
Lauri was aggressive. Really took it to Hawkinson. Kobi is getting to be money with that corrner three. Chance is really developing a nice touch.
Crushed them on the boards, with Trier nabbing a bunch. Overall, defense was solid. I'm pleased, so coach should be pleased. Or is it the other way around?
Though there was the one possession when ...
Just when you have things figured out, Alkins and Simmons shoot a combined 2/15, Trier scores an efficient 21, and Chief, er, Chance puts up 13 and 7 in his first game with starter minutes.TheGreatCatsby wrote:There really isn't any combination of players you can put on the floor that won't have at least some defensive weakness somewhere.
To me our 4 best players are:
PJC
Alkins
Simmons
Lauri
Followed by:
Trier
Allen
Dusan
Allen and Trier to me currently are in the second tier because they're playing that way. Let me submit Allen is just a disaster running the offense. Yes, he's good defensively, but it comes at an overall cost to the O, a serious cost in terms of flow. Go to a game and see for yourself live and in person, you'll see the overall effect on spacing you can't see on TV. Trier takes a lot of shots and misses a lot and charges and does dumb things out of control right now. But I'm certainly all for either one playing better!
Followed closely by:
Chance
Followed by:
Pinder
So I just say play our 4 best players and Dusan to start and be done with it, then bring Allen in for some lockdown D on whoever is playing well on the opposing team to work them over. Trier comes in for a heat check, to see if he's some instant O that night or otherwise into the game passing and rebounding, which he shows life sometimes with.
Should help us grab a #1 seed in the NIT.84Cat wrote:Not bad for a down yearazgreg wrote:I like our chances of finishing in the top five of the conference.
Youre correct. Missing two starters, on the road, thats Washingtons super bowl, and despite their record they still have Fultz. That was a very good win.Puerco wrote:Didn't see the game, but that's really ana amazing result on the road with two starters out. I was worried about this one. Way to go team.
I am not sure how a team with a player that seems to be a consensus top pick in the 2017 draft can be 9-18/2-13. And once you get past the top three, the Pac-12 isn't exactly a brutal conference this year. Something tells me that if Miller had UW's team this season, he would have them at a "tad" better than 9-18.rgdeuce wrote:Youre correct. Missing two starters, on the road, thats Washingtons super bowl, and despite their record they still have Fultz. That was a very good win.Puerco wrote:Didn't see the game, but that's really ana amazing result on the road with two starters out. I was worried about this one. Way to go team.
I think it's because of Chance's last name.azcat49 wrote:What's with Waslton calling him Chief. I don't believe him (Walton) when he says that it what his Mom and Chance wants him to be called.