Bear Down Wildcats

azgreg wrote:What's the chance that Miller already has his kids but due to the media storm so far has asked everyone to be quite untill signing day?

Think that's unlikely. Keep in mind we're in this age of tell-the-world-the-second-there's-news via Twitter. A college choice is such a big deal for these kids. It's hard to imagine Miller asking them to not say anything.

Beachcat97 wrote:

azgreg wrote:What's the chance that Miller already has his kids but due to the media storm so far has asked everyone to be quite untill signing day?

Think that's unlikely. Keep in mind we're in this age of tell-the-world-the-second-there's-news via Twitter. A college choice is such a big deal for these kids. It's hard to imagine Miller asking them to not say anything.

just looking for avenues to keep my optimism up.

I think he has his coaches ready not players

azgreg wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

azgreg wrote:What's the chance that Miller already has his kids but due to the media storm so far has asked everyone to be quite untill signing day?

Think that's unlikely. Keep in mind we're in this age of tell-the-world-the-second-there's-news via Twitter. A college choice is such a big deal for these kids. It's hard to imagine Miller asking them to not say anything.

just looking for avenues to keep my optimism up.

Totally. I'm in the same boat. This is how foolishly optimistic I am: I still think we have a shot at BW.

azgreg wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

azgreg wrote:What's the chance that Miller already has his kids but due to the media storm so far has asked everyone to be quite untill signing day?

Think that's unlikely. Keep in mind we're in this age of tell-the-world-the-second-there's-news via Twitter. A college choice is such a big deal for these kids. It's hard to imagine Miller asking them to not say anything.

just looking for avenues to keep my optimism up.

Lol yeah Miller is in a fight for every single guy he's prioritizing at the moment. The transfers don't care at all about signing day and I'm not sure the HS kids do either since they're at the point where just signing scholarship papers makes the most sense for them.

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It doesn't help with another ESPN story with a negative connotation. Kids, their parents and advisors see these headlines and hear these stories, and it has to be a concern.

What is the deal with ESPN and its apparent grudge with AZ? Where did this come from? Several weeks ago Yahoo Sports issued their big story naming various players and programs where money was allegedly funneled to the kids from third parties, and within hours, ESPN published its hit-job on Miller, almost as an attempt to deflect attention away from the Yahoo story. The whole thing is so bizarre.

midnightx wrote:It doesn't help with another ESPN story with a negative connotation. Kids, their parents and advisors see these headlines and hear these stories, and it has to be a concern.

What is the deal with ESPN and its apparent grudge with AZ? Where did this come from? Several weeks ago Yahoo Sports issued their big story naming various players and programs where money was allegedly funneled to the kids from third parties, and within hours, ESPN published its hit-job on Miller, almost as an attempt to deflect attention away from the Yahoo story. The whole thing is so bizarre.

I'm still very suspicious about whether the timing of the Yahoo story and ESPN story was a coincidence or whether it was intentional.

midnightx wrote:What is the deal with ESPN and its apparent grudge with AZ? Where did this come from? Several weeks ago Yahoo Sports issued their big story naming various players and programs where money was allegedly funneled to the kids from third parties, and within hours, ESPN published its hit-job on Miller, almost as an attempt to deflect attention away from the Yahoo story. The whole thing is so bizarre.

My theory: Book released the Yahoo info and Dawkins made the call to ESPN in retaliation. And ESPN doesn't have a grudge against Arizona, they put themselves in legal jeopardy with the release of that story and have decided to dig their fox hole.

Remember the good old days when kids wanted to ball for the University of Arizona?


Yeah...me neither...

ezinaz wrote:Remember the good old days when kids wanted to ball for the University of Arizona?


Yeah...me neither...

You gotta have a coach here who guys want to play for. Miller has been that guy, but clearly it's changed. If he can't get the recruiting train out of the station again, it's just a matter of time before he and AZ part ways. A program that draws Ayton, Lauri, Johnson, and Gordon can't become a place for walk-ons and grad-transfers. It feels ridiculous even writing that sentence.

But again, it all starts with the coach.

Big difference too with Carter is nobody nationally cares, and nobody nationally cared about RichRod's shenanigans since it fell in line with all the other sexual harassment stories, and nobody really cares about UA football nationally (at least YET, hear us Sumlin ha).

But Miller's scandal is national. Everyone thinks of us as cheaters now, right or wrong. When we lost in the tourney, everyone said see what good cheating gets you, glad the cheaters lost. Plus Miller's emphasis on a big front court and crappy guard play is so stuck in the past, you win now in the tourney with stellar guard play and making a bunch of 3's. NO way around that, and Miller's biggest weakness is recruiting decent guards. Has been from day one, which is ironic because he was a good one himself.

On national sports talk yesterday, there was segment about why does Coach K never get questioned when he gets tons of 1 and dones, but why does a guy like Calipari get all the flack for being a likely cheater (with the follow up comment like cheating at recruiting like Miller at Arizona and maybe Bill Self too.) So it's out there, our reputation is stained by this really bad. That's why we're currently at a crossroads, we're staring at winning maybe 15 games in the coming seasons if things don't change around here for the positive, in a short amount of time.

Reaching out to anyone with a pulse
Scott I think is the first traditional transfer Arizona has reached out to

How ironic would it be if this rag-tag ‘18 team got to the FF after years of 5-stars and one-and-dones?

Beachcat97 wrote:How ironic would it be if this rag-tag ‘18 team got to the FF after years of 5-stars and one-and-dones?

high hopes, it would surprise me if we even make the tourney

elriop20 wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:How ironic would it be if this rag-tag ‘18 team got to the FF after years of 5-stars and one-and-dones?

high hopes, it would surprise me if we even make the tourney[/quoteIi


I would not be.

Neither would I.

elriop20 wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:How ironic would it be if this rag-tag ‘18 team got to the FF after years of 5-stars and one-and-dones?

high hopes, it would surprise me if we even make the tourney

Same. Anything more than a like 11 seed in the tournament and a 3rd place conference finish would be one of the biggest underdog success stories in sports history.

ASUHATER! wrote:

elriop20 wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:How ironic would it be if this rag-tag ‘18 team got to the FF after years of 5-stars and one-and-dones?

high hopes, it would surprise me if we even make the tourney

Same. Anything more than a like 11 seed in the tournament and a 3rd place conference finish would be one of the biggest underdog success stories in sports history.

Is this real life?

I know we have only six scholarship players, but we'll be starting at least 2 ex-five star player, 3 ex-four stars and one ex-McDonalds all american. I mean, we might not make the tournament, but it isn't like we don't have highly regarded players.

Acting like it would be some miracle...68 teams make it. It isn't some exclusive club.

Some of you will be pleasantly surprised

CatHoops wrote:Some of you will be pleasantly surprised

Did we sign a PG for next season or something? I must’ve missed that.

Beachcat97 wrote:

CatHoops wrote:Some of you will be pleasantly surprised

Did we sign a PG for next season or something? I must’ve missed that.

Beer sales at the arena.

azgreg wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

CatHoops wrote:Some of you will be pleasantly surprised

Did we sign a PG for next season or something? I must’ve missed that.

Beer sales at the arena.

And WiFi

Beer sales, wifi...if we can just add a PG, we'll be well on our way to a great season.

Redefining "beer goggles" for sure.

Beachcat97 wrote:How ironic would it be if this rag-tag ‘18 team got to the FF after years of 5-stars and one-and-dones?

It would be glorious.

Don't let him get out of town without a committment.

Looks like he's visiting Tennessee next weekend

Hopefully Doutrive leaves as a Arizona committ, at worst a silent committ

I wouldn't worry about Doutrive.

Looks like Doutrive is done, 3 CB picks for Arizona yesterday

Another grad transfer

Hurley visiting Mooney. I hope the kid loves himself more than to go play for Hurley.

College hoops aint what it used to be...

The grad transfers and one n dones.

PJC, Ristic, York, et al... that's what I'm in it for. I don't even care how successful we are any more.

BW is really slurping it all up isn’t he.

At this point I hope he moves on. As said in dumb and dumber; “shhhh, just go”.

June huh, take Akinjo and hope Williams ends up coming anyway.

Bordercat wrote:College hoops aint what it used to be...

The grad transfers and one n dones.

PJC, Ristic, York, et al... that's what I'm in it for. I don't even care how successful we are any more.

We had two seniors and a junior starting this year, so it must be an all time favorite team for the last 10 years or so...

Bordercat wrote:College hoops aint what it used to be...

The grad transfers and one n dones.

PJC, Ristic, York, et al... that's what I'm in it for. I don't even care how successful we are any more.

we need grad transfers to even field a team next season.

ASUHATER! wrote:

Bordercat wrote:College hoops aint what it used to be...

The grad transfers and one n dones.

PJC, Ristic, York, et al... that's what I'm in it for. I don't even care how successful we are any more.

we need grad transfers to even field a team next season.

NYCat wrote:June huh, take Akinjo and hope Williams ends up coming anyway.

We can take Akinjo and it doesn't really change the BW situation. If we take a grad transfer at PG...that would change things.

NYCat wrote:

I'm not sure what our strategy is here because the following weekend after that Tennessee visit is the beginning of the Spring Eval period and you can't not be there. Maybe we'll get him in for a mid week visit?

Looks like bwill is giving us plenty of time to fill out the roster. Giving us a shot

Boom! Nice!

He's a combo that should help with the ball handling duties with Barcello in the worst case scenario of no PGs signed.

Awesome. Let's keep it going

Just need 2 more freshmen and 2 grad transfers