Re: The 2021-2022 Season Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:33 am
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If we beat Wichita St and Michigan, they're going to name a campus building after Lloyd.IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:20 pmRight where we should be to start the year. I’m very excited to see how we stack up with Wichita St (and Michigan if we win the first one).
Huh??Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:34 pmIf we beat Wichita St and Michigan, they're going to name a campus building after Lloyd.IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:20 pmRight where we should be to start the year. I’m very excited to see how we stack up with Wichita St (and Michigan if we win the first one).
Oh I’m just poking fun at our (my own included) eagerness to see this program kick ass again. If Lloyd delivers in a major way in year one, he’ll be the toast of Tucson.Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:02 pmHuh??Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:34 pmIf we beat Wichita St and Michigan, they're going to name a campus building after Lloyd.IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:20 pmRight where we should be to start the year. I’m very excited to see how we stack up with Wichita St (and Michigan if we win the first one).
Okay, guess I'll head over to the thread for the women's team, then?Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:18 pm Jedd Fisch was the toast of Tucson two months ago.
Instead of trying to lick the sphincter of whoever the next abject failure is, we should maybe venerate those who have actually won and have their programs on the right track.
Just because Tommy Boy wins a couple games with Sean Miller’s team doesn’t mean anything. If you’re looking for a coach to canonize and admire, Adia Barnes is the one who deserves it.
Only if you want to talk about a coach who has actually won something.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:33 pmOkay, guess I'll head over to the thread for the women's team, then?Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:18 pm Jedd Fisch was the toast of Tucson two months ago.
Instead of trying to lick the sphincter of whoever the next abject failure is, we should maybe venerate those who have actually won and have their programs on the right track.
Just because Tommy Boy wins a couple games with Sean Miller’s team doesn’t mean anything. If you’re looking for a coach to canonize and admire, Adia Barnes is the one who deserves it.
We can hit 3s.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:33 amIf that's even remotely true, we're in for a long slog this season. Can't do much in today's game without at least one dependable 3-point shooter. Most good teams have 2 or 3 guys who can do this.
I think the bball program and the FB program are way different, and so are the coaches.Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:18 pm Jedd Fisch was the toast of Tucson two months ago.
Instead of trying to lick the sphincter of whoever the next abject failure is, we should maybe venerate those who have actually won and have their programs on the right track.
Just because Tommy Boy wins a couple games with Sean Miller’s team doesn’t mean anything. If you’re looking for a coach to canonize and admire, Adia Barnes is the one who deserves it.
Anyone hired by Booby Bobbins is automatically assumed by me not to be able to coach their way out of a wet paper bag.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:33 pmI think the bball program and the FB program are way different, and so are the coaches.Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:18 pm Jedd Fisch was the toast of Tucson two months ago.
Instead of trying to lick the sphincter of whoever the next abject failure is, we should maybe venerate those who have actually won and have their programs on the right track.
Just because Tommy Boy wins a couple games with Sean Miller’s team doesn’t mean anything. If you’re looking for a coach to canonize and admire, Adia Barnes is the one who deserves it.
I get that, and I can respect your stance.Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:23 pmAnyone hired by Booby Bobbins is automatically assumed by me not to be able to coach their way out of a wet paper bag.Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:33 pmI think the bball program and the FB program are way different, and so are the coaches.Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:18 pm Jedd Fisch was the toast of Tucson two months ago.
Instead of trying to lick the sphincter of whoever the next abject failure is, we should maybe venerate those who have actually won and have their programs on the right track.
Just because Tommy Boy wins a couple games with Sean Miller’s team doesn’t mean anything. If you’re looking for a coach to canonize and admire, Adia Barnes is the one who deserves it.
Tommy Boy is going to get his shot to disabuse me of my prejudice real soon.
I like it. Super greedy. Come on, Tommy!IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:11 am Add to greedy goals:
win all home games
Sweep ASU
Finish road trips with split or better
I loved when T.O. said that Pelle Larsson is a PG who didn't turn the ball over last season.gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:16 pmHe lost me when he said Omar Ballo could be a monster for us this year. Other than that, they seemed to do their homework and solid analysis.
To me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Fair enough. If your reasonable goals are different, let's hear em.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Our soccer coach has won 3 games so far so there is that. Although we have are having our worst season since at least a decade which seems to be a theme.
This "if he doesn't achieve right now what Miller could have maybe achieved" mentality is a great way to stay mad.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Glad someone said this. I've never seen this degree of angst from AZ fans.YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:28 amThis "if he doesn't achieve right now what Miller could have maybe achieved" mentality is a great way to stay mad.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
We were told this change was to help us improve and reach our potential. That is how it should be judged. I like the way Tommy dealt with Goodwin and I am hopeful but the proof is in wins and losses as well as style of play.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:32 amGlad someone said this. I've never seen this degree of angst from AZ fans.YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:28 amThis "if he doesn't achieve right now what Miller could have maybe achieved" mentality is a great way to stay mad.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Not a popular opinion around here, but I like the reasoning.97cats wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:58 am
however, i fully appreciate and understand the wait and see approach - the one thing im most happy about that was caused by the departure of Miller is the subtraction of James Akinjo.
his vacancy immediately ups the overall vibe and provides tremendous opportunity for Mathurin and Tubelis to take the team over - their style and personality fits the new head coaches system much better than the aforementioned.
agreed, it's pretty remarkable...the boards are not fun places to go to right now, feels like half of the posters have already made up their (feeble) minds on Tommy being a bad hire...season can't come soon enough. it was very clear to any rational Arizona fan that Miller's time had come and gone, and imo Tommy was the best realistic hire we could have made this offseason - Onward!!Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:32 amGlad someone said this. I've never seen this degree of angst from AZ fans.YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:28 amThis "if he doesn't achieve right now what Miller could have maybe achieved" mentality is a great way to stay mad.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Totally. And I may be in the minority here, but I think it's exciting that this new coaching staff is comprised almost entirely of key figures in Gonzaga's rise to elite status over the last couple decades. Few is clearly the main piece, but it takes a team of coaches to really build an elite program. I'm excited to see what Tommy and his guys can do.goslingswagg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:23 pmagreed, it's pretty remarkable...the boards are not fun places to go to right now, feels like half of the posters have already made up their (feeble) minds on Tommy being a bad hire...season can't come soon enough. it was very clear to any rational Arizona fan that Miller's time had come and gone, and imo Tommy was the best realistic hire we could have made this offseason - Onward!!Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:32 amGlad someone said this. I've never seen this degree of angst from AZ fans.YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:28 amThis "if he doesn't achieve right now what Miller could have maybe achieved" mentality is a great way to stay mad.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Agree with most of this, but I will miss Akinjo who had no fear when playing and taking the big shot. I hope that someone steps up to take over that role, and I can see Kerr being that guy.97cats wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:58 am oh good god stop the in-fighting.
Miller did so many amazing things at Arizona its natural for die hard fans to still be a little perturbed at the way he was let go, and annoyed at the almost comical way the administration has ignored all his tremendous accomplishments as if he didnt exist, filling his void with a career assistant coach....sorry HOF career assistant coach.
ive said on here many times im excited for the change, excited to watch a new style, and generally excited for a new voice, its time, IMNSHO.
however, i fully appreciate and understand the wait and see approach - the one thing im most happy about that was caused by the departure of Miller is the subtraction of James Akinjo.
his vacancy immediately ups the overall vibe and provides tremendous opportunity for Mathurin and Tubelis to take the team over - their style and personality fits the new head coaches system much better than the aforementioned.
I think the NCAA tournament is a reasonable expectation for this team. It's always a little dicey with a new coach, especially one with zero HC experience, but that doesn't change the expectation, imo.
You aren’t the first person to call me mad.YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:28 amThis "if he doesn't achieve right now what Miller could have maybe achieved" mentality is a great way to stay mad.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once
Bad voodoo for hiring Dukies?gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:20 amOur soccer coach has won 3 games so far so there is that. Although we have are having our worst season since at least a decade which seems to be a theme.
Top 3 in conferenceBeachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:27 amFair enough. If your reasonable goals are different, let's hear em.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:24 pmTo me, your “reasonable goals” are minimums. Those are things I expected of Miller this season and he was fired so we could have better on court results.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 am Reasonable goals for season:
-top 3 Pac finish
-NCAA tourney bid
-beat Wichita St in Vegas
Greedy goals for season:
-top 2 Pac finish
-5 seed or better in NCAA tourney
-beat Michigan in Vegas
-beat UCLA and Oregon at least once