Re: let's talk '18
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:40 am
I hope that sound I hear is the ice breaking, with the flood to follow. Great pick up, now need to get BW.
4 Star guard out of California, freshman. Even if the entire Book/ESPN debacles had not occurred, he would have been a nice piece for any recruiting class.Alieberman wrote:Someone refresh my memory as I don't follow recruiting that closely.... freshman or transfer?
He for sure has the athleticism to be one, but I don’t think he’s a stopper just yet.Irish27 wrote:Does anyone know if he is a good defender?
Brown isn't coming to Arizona because of an assistant, and Cohen likely isn't coming now that Peters is being hired. The last assistant job will likely be a recruiter not another associate HC type assistant.CatHoops wrote:With miller doing all the recruiting no info gets out. He's pretty much saying F the media and gonna start putting his team together. Pac12 will still go through Tucson!!!! Cohen = Jordan Brown
He has all the physical attributes to be one, especially after he puts on muscle. He went be a day one stopper though.Irish27 wrote:Does anyone know if he is a good defender?
Next assistant will absolutely be African American.NYCat wrote:Brown isn't coming to Arizona because of an assistant, and Cohen likely isn't coming now that Peters is being hired. The last assistant job will likely be a recruiter not another associate HC type assistant.CatHoops wrote:With miller doing all the recruiting no info gets out. He's pretty much saying F the media and gonna start putting his team together. Pac12 will still go through Tucson!!!! Cohen = Jordan Brown
I mean we weren't in the running for Ben Davis or Loren Woods in their initial recruitments either. Fresh recruitment changes things.NYCat wrote:Wasn't really in the running before so I doubt there's a serious chance but anyway
The Caliparri/Miller friendship can be good or bad with this one!TucsonClip wrote:I would be all about that.
Senior Jeter, Junior Lee and Junior Killeya-Jones would be a legit post rotation in '19.TucsonClip wrote:I would be all about that.
NYCat wrote:
That's a lot less awkward, but I never regret that Homer Simpson gif.YoDeFoe wrote:Phony Bennett is a parody Tony Bennett twitter account, FYI. That tweet was playful, not vindictive.
That offers feels to me to be a pretty sobering look at the state of our program...I guess in our current situation he's worth an offer but man he looks to have very low upside and honestly pretty low floor too.ChooChooCat wrote:Blah.
I mean he's what I expected us to land, but I expected it to be a grad transfer eating a scholarship for a year and not a 4-5 year guy eating up a scholarship for that many years. I guess the best we can say is that you rarely even use the 13th scholarship, so if no sanctions come our way in regards to scholarships (if you believe what Arizona does) then as long as he provides a body in practice and gets good grades then he is not a net negative for our program.goslingswagg wrote:That offers feels to me to be a pretty sobering look at the state of our program...I guess in our current situation he's worth an offer but man he looks to have very low upside and honestly pretty low floor too.ChooChooCat wrote:Blah.
Yeah agreed. Although I'm not opposed to Euro bigs on the whole, I would just rather them be more modern-style players than bruisers. Marek Dolezaj on Syracuse is a good example of the type of Euro big I would wish we'd go after.ChooChooCat wrote:I mean he's what I expected us to land, but I expected it to be a grad transfer eating a scholarship for a year and not a 4-5 year guy eating up a scholarship for that many years. I guess the best we can say is that you rarely even use the 13th scholarship, so if no sanctions come our way in regards to scholarships (if you believe what Arizona does) then as long as he provides a body in practice and gets good grades then he is not a net negative for our program.goslingswagg wrote:That offers feels to me to be a pretty sobering look at the state of our program...I guess in our current situation he's worth an offer but man he looks to have very low upside and honestly pretty low floor too.ChooChooCat wrote:Blah.
In general unless it's a freak like Lauri, I am just over having a Euro big getting minutes on this team.
James Akinjo just finished his first official visit following his release from UConn, one that took him to Georgetown. The Hoyas were the first to see the four-star guard following his decommitment and while a commitment did not occur this weekend, it looks as if they are in a great spot. However, many others remain in the hunt.
This weekend, Tennessee will host Akinjo for an official visit. The Vols had invested much time and attention with Anfernee Simons this winter before he decided to hire an agent and jump directly to the NBA ranks. They quickly reasserted their attention with Akinjo as they have the chance to sell immediate playing time and the idea that he is the final piece missing for what could be a potential Final Four run next season. The Vols return seven of their top eight scorers from last year, one that brought them their first league title since 1979.
While Tennessee and Georgetown remain in a good spot, others on the West Coast should not be discounted. California, San Diego State, Gonzaga, Colorado, Oregon State and a slew of others remain involved.
However, keep a close eye on Arizona, as the Wildcats have an immediate need at the point guard spot, have scholarships to fill and the Rivals150 prospect has the chance to compete for a point guard-savvy head coach in Sean Miller. Arizona will host Akinjo on an official visit on the weekend of April 19, a source tells Rivals.
He's at least a Matt Korcheck type, and I think you can use guys like that. I agree about the low upside part, but you can use solid rotation guys.ChooChooCat wrote:I mean he's what I expected us to land, but I expected it to be a grad transfer eating a scholarship for a year and not a 4-5 year guy eating up a scholarship for that many years. I guess the best we can say is that you rarely even use the 13th scholarship, so if no sanctions come our way in regards to scholarships (if you believe what Arizona does) then as long as he provides a body in practice and gets good grades then he is not a net negative for our program.goslingswagg wrote:That offers feels to me to be a pretty sobering look at the state of our program...I guess in our current situation he's worth an offer but man he looks to have very low upside and honestly pretty low floor too.ChooChooCat wrote:Blah.
In general unless it's a freak like Lauri, I am just over having a Euro big getting minutes on this team.
Well damn that shows you just how important Akinjo is to Arizona that we're hosting him during the weekend where every one else will be taking place in the Spring evaluation period.NYCat wrote:James Akinjo just finished his first official visit following his release from UConn, one that took him to Georgetown. The Hoyas were the first to see the four-star guard following his decommitment and while a commitment did not occur this weekend, it looks as if they are in a great spot. However, many others remain in the hunt.
This weekend, Tennessee will host Akinjo for an official visit. The Vols had invested much time and attention with Anfernee Simons this winter before he decided to hire an agent and jump directly to the NBA ranks. They quickly reasserted their attention with Akinjo as they have the chance to sell immediate playing time and the idea that he is the final piece missing for what could be a potential Final Four run next season. The Vols return seven of their top eight scorers from last year, one that brought them their first league title since 1979.
While Tennessee and Georgetown remain in a good spot, others on the West Coast should not be discounted. California, San Diego State, Gonzaga, Colorado, Oregon State and a slew of others remain involved.
However, keep a close eye on Arizona, as the Wildcats have an immediate need at the point guard spot, have scholarships to fill and the Rivals150 prospect has the chance to compete for a point guard-savvy head coach in Sean Miller. Arizona will host Akinjo on an official visit on the weekend of April 19, a source tells Rivals.
I think Korcheck was a better athlete than this guy is.Spaceman Spiff wrote:He's at least a Matt Korcheck type, and I think you can use guys like that. I agree about the low upside part, but you can use solid rotation guys.ChooChooCat wrote:I mean he's what I expected us to land, but I expected it to be a grad transfer eating a scholarship for a year and not a 4-5 year guy eating up a scholarship for that many years. I guess the best we can say is that you rarely even use the 13th scholarship, so if no sanctions come our way in regards to scholarships (if you believe what Arizona does) then as long as he provides a body in practice and gets good grades then he is not a net negative for our program.goslingswagg wrote:That offers feels to me to be a pretty sobering look at the state of our program...I guess in our current situation he's worth an offer but man he looks to have very low upside and honestly pretty low floor too.ChooChooCat wrote:Blah.
In general unless it's a freak like Lauri, I am just over having a Euro big getting minutes on this team.
As long as he is a hard worker and willing to play tough on the glass and D, I'm ok with him.
He's still playing U 18 from what I could find. I agree he's not a great raw athlete, but I think he can do the job with a few years of strength and conditioning work. We only saw Korcheck at least 2-3 years past this kid.ChooChooCat wrote:I think Korcheck was a better athlete than this guy is.Spaceman Spiff wrote:He's at least a Matt Korcheck type, and I think you can use guys like that. I agree about the low upside part, but you can use solid rotation guys.ChooChooCat wrote:I mean he's what I expected us to land, but I expected it to be a grad transfer eating a scholarship for a year and not a 4-5 year guy eating up a scholarship for that many years. I guess the best we can say is that you rarely even use the 13th scholarship, so if no sanctions come our way in regards to scholarships (if you believe what Arizona does) then as long as he provides a body in practice and gets good grades then he is not a net negative for our program.goslingswagg wrote:That offers feels to me to be a pretty sobering look at the state of our program...I guess in our current situation he's worth an offer but man he looks to have very low upside and honestly pretty low floor too.ChooChooCat wrote:Blah.
In general unless it's a freak like Lauri, I am just over having a Euro big getting minutes on this team.
As long as he is a hard worker and willing to play tough on the glass and D, I'm ok with him.
We have so many guys beating down the doors to play here right now, smart to pass on potential of someone who wants to be here.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
The Rich Rodriguez strategy, no thanks. This is how you in trouble, by taking anyone you can get.PHXCATS wrote:We have so many guys beating down the doors to play here right now, smart to pass on potential of someone who wants to be here.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
Eh, you need reserves too. I don't mind the idea of recruiting some bench players.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow/not very quick laterally, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
In these modern positionless basketball times, he just doesn't have a fit. Just play a ball handler or two, a bunch of wings and one big.
That's fine if it's a grad transfer, but a 4-5 year guy....BLAH.NYCat wrote:The Rich Rodriguez strategy, no thanks. This is how you in trouble, by taking anyone you can get.PHXCATS wrote:We have so many guys beating down the doors to play here right now, smart to pass on potential of someone who wants to be here.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
Agreed. Not interested. Not worth investing time into when we should be going after wings/guards. Why are we not recruiting Emmitt Matthews, the other UCONN decommit? My nightmare with Lukas would be that Miller plays him at the 4, which given his height, might actually come to fruition. Miller has to realize the days of these guys playing the 4 at all are over, right?ChooChooCat wrote:That's fine if it's a grad transfer, but a 4-5 year guy....BLAH.NYCat wrote:The Rich Rodriguez strategy, no thanks. This is how you in trouble, by taking anyone you can get.PHXCATS wrote:We have so many guys beating down the doors to play here right now, smart to pass on potential of someone who wants to be here.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
better to have 12 guys who want to be here than 7 who are more talented but dontNYCat wrote:The Rich Rodriguez strategy, no thanks. This is how you in trouble, by taking anyone you can get.PHXCATS wrote:We have so many guys beating down the doors to play here right now, smart to pass on potential of someone who wants to be here.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
A wing is the last thing we need, IMO. Akot, Randolph, Smith and Doutrive give us easily the most depth on the roster right now.goslingswagg wrote:Agreed. Not interested. Not worth investing time into when we should be going after wings/guards. Why are we not recruiting Emmitt Matthews, the other UCONN decommit? My nightmare with Lukas would be that Miller plays him at the 4, which given his height, might actually come to fruition. Miller has to realize the days of these guys playing the 4 at all are over, right?ChooChooCat wrote:That's fine if it's a grad transfer, but a 4-5 year guy....BLAH.NYCat wrote:The Rich Rodriguez strategy, no thanks. This is how you in trouble, by taking anyone you can get.PHXCATS wrote:We have so many guys beating down the doors to play here right now, smart to pass on potential of someone who wants to be here.NYCat wrote:He's unskilled, undersized (6'8), he's slow, he's unathletic, he will ride the bench if he comes here - don't spin this.
We may disagree on that point. I see Akot as an option at the 4, but not to the degree you structure a roster around that idea. If we need extra wing minutes, I'd rather try to overrecruit PG and play multiple PG options (including Barcello, if ready) to fill out the perimeter.goslingswagg wrote:I believe Akot should be a full-time 4, hence why I think another wing would be necessary. So when you look at Randolph, Smith, and Doutrive as being 2/3s, I think one more guy capable of playing the 3 would be a positive and somewhat necessary. Ideally, we get Akinjo + Grad Transfer PG + Matthews + a backup 5 Grad Transfer. That to me is a realistic scenario (provided we don't get Bwill) that would sufficiently cover this team's needs. Granted we're not currently going after Matthews but I wish we were.
That would mean the roster would look like:
PG: GT Point + Akinjo + Barcello
SG: Randolph + Doutrive
SF: Smith + Matthews
PF: Akot + Lee
C: Jeter + GT Big
That's a tourney team as long as the GT Point was decent - either Cremo or Amin or Chartouny or someone of that ilk.
We may disagree on that point. I see Akot as an option at the 4, but not to the degree you structure a roster around that idea. If we need extra wing minutes, I'd rather try to overrecruit PG and play multiple PG options (including Barcello, if ready) to fill out the perimeter.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
I just think the vast majority of college teams now play somebody with Akot's physical profile at the 4, meaning that he would likely best matchup at the 4 against most teams. I think the longer we stay playing 2000s style basketball, the more trouble Sean will continue to face defensively. We cannot keep playing true bigs at the 4, that time has come and gone in cbb.[/quote]goslingswagg wrote:We may disagree on that point. I see Akot as an option at the 4, but not to the degree you structure a roster around that idea. If we need extra wing minutes, I'd rather try to overrecruit PG and play multiple PG options (including Barcello, if ready) to fill out the perimeter.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Akot is our highest potential perimeter defender, and putting him at the 4 could handcuff that ability. For a team with a smaller 4, ok, adjust to it. When it's not needed, I don't like burying our best perimeter defender on the interior.