Official Bracketology Thread

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:55 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Newportcat wrote:This is such a weird feeling

Not even going to do a bracket this year
It will be sort of nice not having to care. I'm usually nervous about how our future matchups look. This year, I feel like I can just watch and enjoy.

Other than Duke and ASU losing, I don't care about any of the other 66 teams.
Agree. Duke is the favorite but there are like 10 teams that could win it. As long as ASU loses early and Duke gets knocked out in the sweet 16 or earlier, there's nothing else to really watch for or care about.

Maybe it's my Duke hating glasses, but I don't get them as this tremendous favorite. They're an iffy 3 point shooting team and lack depth.

A bad shooting night, injury or foul trouble are all big issues for them. Now, it is Duke, so foul trouble is unlikely, but the remainder makes it fairly wide open. Duke can overwhelm midlevel teams with Zion, Jones, Barrett and Reddish's physicality, but a real top level team isn't nearly as clear.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:06 pm

I saw Duke play for the 1st time in ACC semi final game.

My thinking prior to that game was that Zion was another overhyped ESPN slobberfest of a Duke player.

I was wrong.... he is the real deal.

I fear a deep run for Duke.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Think its funny to see ASSU fans here at the office roll in with ASSU as the champion. I like North Carolina better than Duke and I also like Michigan should they see each other.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:13 pm

How good is buffalo, generally the same team they beat up last year right?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:21 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:How good is buffalo, generally the same team they beat up last year right?

Haven't seen them play but they've been ranked all year.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:07 am

I'm a big St. John's and Justin Simon fan this week. I hope he owns Remy Martin or Lugentz Dort. I don't just want ASU to lose. I want them to get their asses beaten in.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:39 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:53 pm

Irish27 wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology

So Arizona will be borderline NIT next year. Joe knows something I can't fathom.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:47 am

IMNSHO, most way-too-early pre-season polls merely operationalize the "What have you done for me lately?" perspective....

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:13 am

There's zero reason to look at next season polls / projections prior to the Draft deadline.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:05 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:There's zero reason to look at next season polls / projections prior to the Draft deadline.

Exactly. Several of the projected top 10 could be losing key players.

Also, do we know for certain that CJ and BW are returning?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:44 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:There's zero reason to look at next season polls / projections prior to the Draft deadline.

I'm with you here. However, after the year we just went through it's nice to see that the talking heads believe we bounce back and this year was all an aberation.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:57 pm

azgreg wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:There's zero reason to look at next season polls / projections prior to the Draft deadline.
I'm with you here. However, after the year we just went through it's nice to see that the talking heads believe we bounce back and this year was all an aberation.

I think our 2019-20 roster is much more akin to those Miller's had in his best years at AZ, so it's reasonable to expect a top 25 ranking to start the season. Say what you will about Miller, but when he has good teams, he wins his league and gets to the S16 or better.

You're going to see the hype machine gather steam as the fall approaches. We've got some flashy, talented players on this team. Future pros.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:23 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:There's zero reason to look at next season polls / projections prior to the Draft deadline.
I'm with you here. However, after the year we just went through it's nice to see that the talking heads believe we bounce back and this year was all an aberation.
I think our 2019-20 roster is much more akin to those Miller's had in his best years at AZ, so it's reasonable to expect a top 25 ranking to start the season. Say what you will about Miller, but when he has good teams, he wins his league and gets to the S16 or better.

You're going to see the hype machine gather steam as the fall approaches. We've got some flashy, talented players on this team. Future pros.

We're getting 12-13 comparisons bc that was another year off no tourney appearance with a highly touted recruiting class.

I feel like this year results in a much more balanced roster, though. We had a glut of PF/C's in 2012-13. This year's pure talent level matches well with 13-14 and 14-15, but those teams meshed and had people who performed to their talent.

Josh Green can be as good as Stanley Johnson or Rondae. Will he be? BWill, if healthy, I think he's good for 14 and 5, which comes close to NJ, at least. Nico, Jeter and Nnaji are more talented than TJ, Zeus and Ashley. Don't know if they'll be as productive.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:29 pm

I'd like to think next season's team will have better passers and shooters. '12-'13 was athletic, but not great shooting the ball. Mannion, Williams, and Green seem like better pure shooters.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:54 pm

zonagrad wrote:I'd like to think next season's team will have better passers and shooters. '12-'13 was athletic, but not great shooting the ball. Mannion, Williams, and Green seem like better pure shooters.

Man I hope you're right. Feel like it's been a while since we had even one lethal outside shooter. We've had guys shoot in the 40s from 3, but I'm talking about a Salim or Gardner type. You gotta have that lights out shooter to draw defenders out, open up the middle. UVA and Tech were both very good three-point shooting teams, and very good defensively. Watching that game, I felt like: this is what a Miller team hitting on all cylinders could look like.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:06 pm

zonagrad wrote:I'd like to think next season's team will have better passers and shooters. '12-'13 was athletic, but not great shooting the ball. Mannion, Williams, and Green seem like better pure shooters.

We really had no distributors in 12-13. We have two this year and unselfish guys at basically every position (if Randolph can stop with bad shots, that would help).

In 12-13, I also thought we never fully figured out who we were as a team. That process is big this year. We didn't suck in 12-13, though. We could have made the Final Four if things broke a little differently. For once, Zaga cleared a path by being upset as the #1 seed.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Thu May 16, 2019 11:01 am

http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?src=desktop" target="_blank

StickItInTheyFace · Post by **StickItInTheyFace** » Thu May 16, 2019 11:28 am

Irish27 wrote:http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?src=desktop

Jump from an 11 seed play in game to a 4 seed? Man, Lunardi must really love Max Hazzard's commitment!

Even Joe knows that both Miller and this class aren't going anywhere.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu May 16, 2019 12:43 pm

4 seed sounds about right for this team.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri May 17, 2019 11:06 am

StickItInTheyFace wrote:
Irish27 wrote:http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?src=desktop
Jump from an 11 seed play in game to a 4 seed? Man, Lunardi must really love Max Hazzard's commitment!

Even Joe knows that both Miller and this class aren't going anywhere.

Or Randolph's absence from the roster. Addition by subtraction. You can't be a volume shooter at a 23% clip in conference play if you're not on the team. Or maybe Joe has inside info that Dylan Smith will not return. That's a lot of bad shooting departing from last season.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Fri May 17, 2019 12:47 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:4 seed sounds about right for this team.

Crap!! That really sucks!!!

What the hell has a 4 seed ever accomplished anyway!!!

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri May 17, 2019 3:58 pm

zonagrad wrote:
StickItInTheyFace wrote:
Irish27 wrote:http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?src=desktop
Jump from an 11 seed play in game to a 4 seed? Man, Lunardi must really love Max Hazzard's commitment!

Even Joe knows that both Miller and this class aren't going anywhere.
Or Randolph's absence from the roster. Addition by subtraction. You can't be a volume shooter at a 23% clip in conference play if you're not on the team. Or maybe Joe has inside info that Dylan Smith will not return. That's a lot of bad shooting departing from last season.

Joe Lunardi having inside information, or an educated opinion, about a team is a hoot.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri May 17, 2019 4:25 pm

pc in NM wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:4 seed sounds about right for this team.
Crap!! That really sucks!!!

What the hell has a 4 seed ever accomplished anyway!!!

Remember what we did in 17-18 as a 4 seed? Oh wait.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:44 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/" target="_blank

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:47 pm

Irish27 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/

4 Pac teams? Did I miss any?

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:57 pm

Chicat wrote:
Irish27 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/
4 Pac teams? Did I miss any?

Arizona, Colorado, Oregon, Washington... with ASU as one of the first four out. I'm on board with that projection though either or both of USC and UCLA could surprise.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:07 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Irish27 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/
4 Pac teams? Did I miss any?
Arizona, Colorado, Oregon, Washington... with ASU as one of the first four out. I'm on board with that projection though either or both of USC and UCLA could surprise.

I'm gonna be so upset if ASU doesn't get to and lose the play-in game again.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:41 pm

I likey!!

Who’s gonna take the weekend off and come party with me in Sacramento!!!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:49 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:05 pm

I don’t take links to that site.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:23 pm

F ESPIN!!!

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:01 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/" target="_blank

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:10 pm

Irish27 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/

Anybody here get a slight headache from the theoretical prospect of facing Wisky again?

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:13 pm

ghostwhitehorse wrote:
Irish27 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/
Anybody here get a slight headache from the theoretical prospect of facing Wisky again?

Naw, not anymore than facing Xavier...different year different teams.

Frank is in Phx now...as long as Miller teaches the Cats to REALLY guard the perimeter I'm not anxious about anyone this season...hopefully our length and now our experience can muscle up the D.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:24 pm

ghostwhitehorse wrote:
Irish27 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/
Anybody here get a slight headache from the theoretical prospect of facing Wisky again?

I've got a slight headache from any amount of "bracketology" that happens before the tail end of conference play. It's obnoxiously "out of the moment."

(Yes, this is coming from someone who spends all summer projecting the performance of our players like it has any bearing on what they'll do when the season starts.)

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:40 pm

WEST REGION
Sacramento

5 Memphis
12 LIBERTY

4 ARIZONA
13 NEW MEXICO ST

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:05 pm

If we end up as low as a 4 seed, Longhorned will stop wearing pants.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:17 pm

I just bought a bottle of crazy naked person pills.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:40 pm

97cats wrote:WEST REGION
Sacramento

5 Memphis
12 LIBERTY

4 ARIZONA
13 NEW MEXICO ST

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology

Bring it.

I want Arizona in Sacramento

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:54 pm

The better the PAC performs in OOC, the better the chances for some high seeds.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:16 pm

We're barely a top twenty team but also a projected four seed. Neat.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:55 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:56 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:18 pm

Irish27 wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology

If we beat Baylor and Zaga, we're moving up to the 2 line.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:49 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

1. Ohio State

5. North Carolina
4. Arizona

I don't think we can afford to be a #4 seed this year and make a run but I don't think we can climb higher than a #3 seed.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm

We need to beat Gonzaga and St Johns I think to have a hope of staying out west. I think the committee sticks us in Louisville’s bracket otherwise. They just look to be the best team in college basketball right now and if the NCAA can’t stick it to us the committee will

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:21 pm

azcat49 wrote:We need to beat Gonzaga and St Johns I think to have a hope of staying out west. I think the committee sticks us in Louisville’s bracket otherwise. They just look to be the best team in college basketball right now and if the NCAA can’t stick it to us the committee will

Agree completely. Actually, I think it's really just Gonzaga at this point. We could conceivably win that one, lose to St. John's, finish first or second in the Pac, and end up with a 3 seed, imo. And this assumes we get some wins over ranked Pac teams.

The Gonzaga game is our one remaining chance for a "signature win." A win would pay huge dividends on Selection Sunday; a loss would make it easier for the committee to downgrade our seed, almost regardless of our Pac finish.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:24 pm

Yep, a huge game as they have beat both Oregon and Washington. No reason to keep us west unless we win the league if we lose this Saturday

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:40 pm

azcat49 wrote:Yep, a huge game as they have beat both Oregon and Washington. No reason to keep us west unless we win the league if we lose this Saturday

So basically...no pressure, guys

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