Re: lets talk '16
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:09 am
azcat34 wrote:Wonder how the Trier news will effect the Ferguson/Jackson recruitment's.
It shouldn't. The minutes are still there. The most it means is that Trier is likely a main scorer, so they have competition if either thinks they would be definitely the man on offense.azcat34 wrote:Wonder how the Trier news will effect the Ferguson/Jackson recruitment's.
I don't think we were ever getting both. Either and our lineup is in great, great shape.ASUHATER! wrote:Just now means we don't need both JJ and Ferguson. Just want to get one of the two.
Can Markkanen play Center? I think Comanche takes a big step forward this year, but I don't have much faith in Ristic. I hope I'm wrong. I think Ray Smith could be a key.NYCat wrote:Kobi Simmons // Parker "Parker Jackson-Cartwright" Jackson-Cartwright // Allen
Allonzo Trier // Rawle Alkins-Kadeem Allen
Terrance Ferguson // Smith // 3 guard lineups
Ray Smith // Lauri Markkanen
Dusan Ristic // Chance Commanche
PJC sure. Dusan, no way. For one, he's a legit 7 footer. For another his footwork and touch on offense are awesome.billk78 wrote:Keep Deuce and PJC on the bench.
Sometimes, if it wasn't for overreactions, there would no reactions at all.Chicat wrote:PJC sure. Dusan, no way. For one, he's a legit 7 footer. For another his footwork and touch on offense are awesome.billk78 wrote:Keep Deuce and PJC on the bench.
I know he disappeared down the stretch, but that doesn't negate how he looked and the way he played through the first half of the season enough to not play the guy at all.
Okay I admit, saying to sit Dusan for good is an overreaction. But I don't think we can count on him to be a productive starter right off the bat. He regressed big time this year and looked lost. Maybe an offseason working with the coaches and hitting the weights will help. But Miller isn't going to play him if he continues to play like a turnstile on defense.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Sometimes, if it wasn't for overreactions, there would no reactions at all.Chicat wrote:PJC sure. Dusan, no way. For one, he's a legit 7 footer. For another his footwork and touch on offense are awesome.billk78 wrote:Keep Deuce and PJC on the bench.
I know he disappeared down the stretch, but that doesn't negate how he looked and the way he played through the first half of the season enough to not play the guy at all.
I could see Comanche overtaking Dusan, and Dusan is never going to be Kaleb on the pick and roll. That said, if Dusan can address his issues, (namely, being able to make quicker moves in the post) he brings a lot to the table offensively. If he can be decent on D, he's a solid starter.
Pretty sure that video is from a year ago. Here's a link to the same highlights from a year ago.thenewazcats wrote:Here is what I saw (sorry would embed but I can't figure it out and posting from my phone): https://youtu.be/XTK4sXTTASg" target="_blank
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Pretty sure that video is from a year ago. Here's a link to the same highlights from a year ago.thenewazcats wrote:Here is what I saw (sorry would embed but I can't figure it out and posting from my phone): https://youtu.be/XTK4sXTTASg" target="_blank
https://youtu.be/OUC-o6IFgto" target="_blank
The more recent videos are different. As noted, he's played very well against some highly regarded guys, and it isn't odd to see a lot of physical development from a kid his age. What is evident is the skillset.
Seems to finish through contact well (did those euro refs ever call an and-1??), which is surprising. Thought he was going to be a string bean. Also runs the floor with his head up. Good looking prospect. You can tell he watches a lot of Dirk.The Goat wrote:And here is Markkanen taking top 10 Kentucky commit Wenyen Gabriel to task.
http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_arti ... -markkanen" target="_blank
We have some question marks, but Kentucky does too, and they're up higher. Land TF or JJ and we're top 5 level, and that's really all that matters. The remainder is luck and how we gel as a team.rgdeuce wrote:Anywhere in that 8-12 range is fair. With Ferguson, id have us 7 or 8 myself.
LOL @ the Sporting News. Clearly someone who printed the stats from the 15-16 season, team rosters and the ESPN Top 100 and made a ranking without watching much basketball.
Didn't realize those were old highlights. It was posted in March this year but you're correct, SS, it looks like old stuff just reposted. The video from GOAT is more reassuring. Looks like he has beefed up. Still not impressed with his speed or hops and think that could be an issue at the NCAA level and above, but the shot is pretty and he looks skilled and coordinated. Like with most of these guys, I guess we really have to wait until they get here to see what we truly have. I'm definitely more interested after seeing that other video.Chicat wrote:Spaceman Spiff wrote:Pretty sure that video is from a year ago. Here's a link to the same highlights from a year ago.thenewazcats wrote:Here is what I saw (sorry would embed but I can't figure it out and posting from my phone): https://youtu.be/XTK4sXTTASg" target="_blank
https://youtu.be/OUC-o6IFgto" target="_blank
The more recent videos are different. As noted, he's played very well against some highly regarded guys, and it isn't odd to see a lot of physical development from a kid his age. What is evident is the skillset.Seems to finish through contact well (did those euro refs ever call an and-1??), which is surprising. Thought he was going to be a string bean. Also runs the floor with his head up. Good looking prospect. You can tell he watches a lot of Dirk.The Goat wrote:And here is Markkanen taking top 10 Kentucky commit Wenyen Gabriel to task.
http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_arti ... -markkanen" target="_blank
I think Sporting News ranked with the assumption that Trier was gone to the league. 16 would be pretty fair then.rgdeuce wrote:Anywhere in that 8-12 range is fair. With Ferguson, id have us 7 or 8 myself.
LOL @ the Sporting News. Clearly someone who printed the stats from the 15-16 season, team rosters and the ESPN Top 100 and made a ranking without watching much basketball.
He's 7 feet tall. Speed and hops are never going to be the strengths of a 7 footer. Show me another 7 footer in college that can shoot it like he does.thenewazcats wrote:Didn't realize those were old highlights. It was posted in March this year but you're correct, SS, it looks like old stuff just reposted. The video from GOAT is more reassuring. Looks like he has beefed up. Still not impressed with his speed or hops and think that could be an issue at the NCAA level and above, but the shot is pretty and he looks skilled and coordinated. Like with most of these guys, I guess we really have to wait until they get here to see what we truly have. I'm definitely more interested after seeing that other video.Chicat wrote:Spaceman Spiff wrote:Pretty sure that video is from a year ago. Here's a link to the same highlights from a year ago.thenewazcats wrote:Here is what I saw (sorry would embed but I can't figure it out and posting from my phone): https://youtu.be/XTK4sXTTASg" target="_blank
https://youtu.be/OUC-o6IFgto" target="_blank
The more recent videos are different. As noted, he's played very well against some highly regarded guys, and it isn't odd to see a lot of physical development from a kid his age. What is evident is the skillset.Seems to finish through contact well (did those euro refs ever call an and-1??), which is surprising. Thought he was going to be a string bean. Also runs the floor with his head up. Good looking prospect. You can tell he watches a lot of Dirk.The Goat wrote:And here is Markkanen taking top 10 Kentucky commit Wenyen Gabriel to task.
http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_arti ... -markkanen" target="_blank
Totally. Are we done recruiting JJ?Chicat wrote:This is the thread to talk about recruiting this year's class.
Eh, he's just about 7 foot tall. Short of a few freaks like Willie Cauley-Stein, people that height generally aren't gonna have explosive speed or hops. The coordination and agility is a way bigger issue at that height. Even guys like Kaleb, who was really good at hedging, aren't guys you want consistently squaring up with guards or wings.thenewazcats wrote:Didn't realize those were old highlights. It was posted in March this year but you're correct, SS, it looks like old stuff just reposted. The video from GOAT is more reassuring. Looks like he has beefed up. Still not impressed with his speed or hops and think that could be an issue at the NCAA level and above, but the shot is pretty and he looks skilled and coordinated. Like with most of these guys, I guess we really have to wait until they get here to see what we truly have. I'm definitely more interested after seeing that other video.Chicat wrote:Spaceman Spiff wrote:Pretty sure that video is from a year ago. Here's a link to the same highlights from a year ago.thenewazcats wrote:Here is what I saw (sorry would embed but I can't figure it out and posting from my phone): https://youtu.be/XTK4sXTTASg" target="_blank
https://youtu.be/OUC-o6IFgto" target="_blank
The more recent videos are different. As noted, he's played very well against some highly regarded guys, and it isn't odd to see a lot of physical development from a kid his age. What is evident is the skillset.Seems to finish through contact well (did those euro refs ever call an and-1??), which is surprising. Thought he was going to be a string bean. Also runs the floor with his head up. Good looking prospect. You can tell he watches a lot of Dirk.The Goat wrote:And here is Markkanen taking top 10 Kentucky commit Wenyen Gabriel to task.
http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_arti ... -markkanen" target="_blank
15. Lauri Markkanen, Arizona Wildcats
Markkanen hasn't been seen too much on American soil, but the Finland native could be one of the best frontcourt players in the Pac-12 next season. College coaches who scouted him said he would be a top-20 player in the United States, and one NBA scout said last week he would have been the best big man at the McDonald's All American game (although the group was without Giles, that's still lofty praise). Fortunately for Markkanen, Sean Miller badly needs frontcourt production with Ryan Anderson, Kaleb Tarczewski and Mark Tollefsen leaving and Dusan Ristic the only rotation member coming back. Markkanen will certainly get his chances.
16. Terrance Ferguson, uncommitted
Ferguson's development will be something to watch over the next few years. He's an unbelievable athlete with deep range on his jumper and the ability to guard multiple positions due to his length. At the same time, there's a feeling he should make more of a consistent impact while he's on the court. Worst-case scenario, Ferguson is a hyper-athletic three-and-D guy at the next level. Ferguson is uncommitted right now, but Arizona is considered to be the leader. Miller coached Ferguson at USA Basketball, and loved his ability to defend and make shots.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... all-season" target="_blank21. Rawle Alkins and Kobi Simmons, Arizona Wildcats
One of these players will need to see extended minutes right off the bat next season, but it will be interesting to see if both are getting 25-30 minutes. Arizona already returns Parker Jackson-Cartwright and Kadeem Allen at the point guard spot, plus Allonzo Trier and Ray Smith on the wing -- and the possibility of Terrance Ferguson coming into the fold. Simmons is talented enough to beat out both Jackson-Cartwright and Allen at the point, but needs to be more consistent. Alkins is a physical scorer who could also find himself playing the small forward spot if Smith moves to the four in a smaller lineup.
Beachcat97 wrote:We are sorta KU's b*tch in recruiting, aren't we?
You're sorta a bitch in general, aren't ya?Beachcat97 wrote:We are sorta KU's b*tch in recruiting, aren't we?
Sick for five weeks? Damn, hope it is nothing serious.Merkin wrote:
Yeah, jeez, we only pull in top five classes every year. We're totally getting worked.ChooChooCat wrote:You're sorta a bitch in general, aren't ya?Beachcat97 wrote:We are sorta KU's b*tch in recruiting, aren't we?
Lose one recruit to Kansas and that's all it takes for the fragile minded. This is genuinely the first recruit we've gone head to head for with KU since Zeus and technically it wasn't even head to head, it was a 3 man race.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Yeah, jeez, we only pull in top five classes every year. We're totally getting worked.ChooChooCat wrote:You're sorta a bitch in general, aren't ya?Beachcat97 wrote:We are sorta KU's b*tch in recruiting, aren't we?
If we lose JJ and get TF, we will ONLY bring in four five star players this year. The sky is falling!ChooChooCat wrote:Lose one recruit to Kansas and that's all it takes for the fragile minded.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Yeah, jeez, we only pull in top five classes every year. We're totally getting worked.ChooChooCat wrote:You're sorta a bitch in general, aren't ya?Beachcat97 wrote:We are sorta KU's b*tch in recruiting, aren't we?
We just aren't bearing down hard enoughSpaceman Spiff wrote:If we lose JJ and get TF, we will ONLY bring in four five star players this year. The sky is falling!ChooChooCat wrote:Lose one recruit to Kansas and that's all it takes for the fragile minded.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Yeah, jeez, we only pull in top five classes every year. We're totally getting worked.ChooChooCat wrote:You're sorta a bitch in general, aren't ya?Beachcat97 wrote:We are sorta KU's b*tch in recruiting, aren't we?
So I did it right. Yes!Chicat wrote:This is the thread to talk about recruiting this year's class.
Who is that? I've seen the name dropped, but missed when I should have learned who he is.PennZona20 wrote:Who says we aren't getting Yrtseven also??
Lots to be decided still.
My thoughts exactly...that's a long time for a young stud to be ill!az91 wrote:Sick for five weeks? Damn, hope it is nothing serious.Merkin wrote: