let's talk '21

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:38 pm

NickyBCats wrote:Top 30 guard Bryce McGowans decomitted from FSU. Borzello reporting we’ve reached out. There any connection there?

JT has ATL connections.

I don’t see this recruitment going anywhere honestly, but we’ll see.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:34 am

So Ira Lee and Terrell Brown get an extra year of eligibility. What is the likelihood these guys stat and how does that effect our '21 class?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:50 am

gronk4heisman wrote:So Ira Lee and Terrell Brown get an extra year of eligibility. What is the likelihood these guys stat and how does that effect our '21 class?

Wait...what?! Lee and Brown get this year PLUS 2021-22?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:09 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:So Ira Lee and Terrell Brown get an extra year of eligibility. What is the likelihood these guys stat and how does that effect our '21 class?
Wait...what?! Lee and Brown get this year PLUS 2021-22?

It seems like it. Frankly, we're in a decent spot not having a ton of guys to whom this applies.

I'd suspect our answer also involves whether we retain 100% of our non-seniors as well. As much as I'd like to think we do, that isn't usually the case.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:14 am

Still only one ball and 200 minutes per game with another year's recruits coming in. Can't imagine that will work out well for the marginal players and since all schools will have this issue won't be a lot of those entering the transfer portal. Just a couple more disgruntled players on the edge of the bench.

Maybe go 4 12 minute quarters like the NBA does.

Did the NBA drop the one and done rule? Let high school players go straight into the G league if they want.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:29 am

All fall and winter sports are receiving a free year of eligibility.

@Merkin high school guys can go straight into the G League right now, there's a special development program now for those guys. OAD rule still applies though, they can't get into the NBA that year and go into the next draft

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:34 am

Merkin wrote:Still only one ball and 200 minutes per game with another year's recruits coming in. Can't imagine that will work out well for the marginal players and since all schools will have this issue won't be a lot of those entering the transfer portal. Just a couple more disgruntled players on the edge of the bench.

Maybe go 4 12 minute quarters like the NBA does.

Did the NBA drop the one and done rule? Let high school players go straight into the G league if they want.

The minute distribution this year will probably sort out the availability of roster spots.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:46 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:So Ira Lee and Terrell Brown get an extra year of eligibility. What is the likelihood these guys stat and how does that effect our '21 class?

I highly doubt those two are back at Arizona next year. We’re taking at least 3 in this class. This changes nothing for Arizona.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:26 pm

So grad transfers can play another year, transfer again and play right away?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:16 am

Jefe wrote:So grad transfers can play another year, transfer again and play right away?

Not sure how it'll work for them since "technically" they're transferring for grad school purposes. If they switch their grad degree then maybe? Either way this entire year is a mulligan eligibility-wise. If you're asking specifically about Terrell Brown and if he wanted to play one more year somewhere else all he'd have to say is that Arizona didn't have the scholarship available and he would get approved easily.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:14 pm

New Offer

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:53 pm

Fitting name

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:17 pm

Jefe wrote:Fitting name

It's going to hurt extra if Dezonie deserts the desert.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:49 pm

I’d pay very close attention to this one.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:20 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:I’d pay very close attention to this one.

Do you know who the lead recruiter is for Dezonie?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:14 pm

Frybry02 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I’d pay very close attention to this one.
Do you know who the lead recruiter is for Dezonie?

Not 100%, but I’m pretty sure it’s Murph.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:33 am

Didn't we recruit someone from Brewster Academy before?

My memory sucks.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:13 am

EastCoastCat wrote:Didn't we recruit someone from Brewster Academy before?

My memory sucks.

Justin Simon I believe?

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:50 am

Sounds like this is getting serious quick since the offer. Commitment soon? Nowell soon after?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:58 am

EastCoastCat wrote:Didn't we recruit someone from Brewster Academy before?

My memory sucks.

Justin Simon went there, but we already had him committed before he ever step foot at Brewster. Emmanuel Negedu once upon a time before he decommitted went there.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:59 am

NickyBCats wrote:Sounds like this is getting serious quick since the offer. Commitment soon? Nowell soon after?

Literally both could pop at any time. It’s whenever the hell they want to at this point.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:34 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
NickyBCats wrote:Sounds like this is getting serious quick since the offer. Commitment soon? Nowell soon after?
Literally both could pop at any time. It’s whenever the hell they want to at this point.

how should we feel about Dezonie? In the limited video I've seen on youtube/twitter, seems like a solid all around wing, jack of all trades but master of none type of player. Should be around for multiple years and be pretty solid by the time he's an upperclassmen. What do you think?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:59 am

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
NickyBCats wrote:Sounds like this is getting serious quick since the offer. Commitment soon? Nowell soon after?
Literally both could pop at any time. It’s whenever the hell they want to at this point.
how should we feel about Dezonie? In the limited video I've seen on youtube/twitter, seems like a solid all around wing, jack of all trades but master of none type of player. Should be around for multiple years and be pretty solid by the time he's an upperclassmen. What do you think?

I've probably watched the same videos and it seems like that to me. Dezonie, Simpson and Nowell are all the same sort of profile: solid tools and physical abilities, but nothing that leaps off the page as an immediate dominator like a Stanley Johnson or Aaron Gordon.

Add in Kriisa, Terry, Mathurin, etc., we have a lot of guys who will be in college 3-4 years. I hope most or all stay, and it's notable how much our recruiting focus seems to have shifted at a time a lot of programs (Duke, MSU) are going the other way.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:24 am

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
NickyBCats wrote:Sounds like this is getting serious quick since the offer. Commitment soon? Nowell soon after?
Literally both could pop at any time. It’s whenever the hell they want to at this point.
how should we feel about Dezonie? In the limited video I've seen on youtube/twitter, seems like a solid all around wing, jack of all trades but master of none type of player. Should be around for multiple years and be pretty solid by the time he's an upperclassmen. What do you think?

Those are my thoughts exactly. He’s strong, athletic enough, and certain jack of all trades master of none. Honestly Nowell falls in the same category. Both are great passers for their position. You’re certainly playing the long game with these guys.

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:17 am

Good stuff. I like what I see from the two of them. High motors and a high chance to develop into a multi year player. Every program needs those types. Veterans you can lean on because of their experience. My question is on DaRon Holmes. I saw that he's likely to commit somewhere before the early signing period is concluded. That deadline is coming up. What are the odds we add him to his class? I saw his top four had us, Marquette, Cal, and Dayton. He'd be a great addition to this class as he seems like a really good player and it's always nice to keep Arizona kids in state.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:48 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote:Good stuff. I like what I see from the two of them. High motors and a high chance to develop into a multi year player. Every program needs those types. Veterans you can lean on because of their experience. My question is on DaRon Holmes. I saw that he's likely to commit somewhere before the early signing period is concluded. That deadline is coming up. What are the odds we add him to his class? I saw his top four had us, Marquette, Cal, and Dayton. He'd be a great addition to this class as he seems like a really good player and it's always nice to keep Arizona kids in state.

It's going to come down to us and Marquette. Nobody knows for sure which way he's leaning. We've been in there a long time.

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:28 pm

Thanks Choo!

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:47 pm

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:15 am

Olsondogg wrote:Boom

Boom what?

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:37 pm

2 crystal ball predictions for Dezonie. Scheer and Snow. He uses the glass very well.

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:09 pm

Daron Holmes announcing this weekend. Any word Choo?

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:05 pm

NickyBCats wrote:Daron Holmes announcing this weekend. Any word Choo?

3 crystal balls today for Marquette...doesn’t seem likely for us. It is what it is, don’t think he’s the type of recruit to get upset over. I’ll take a Tubelis or even Batcho type Euro big in the 2021 class and would be ok with that outcome.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:05 pm

NickyBCats wrote:Daron Holmes announcing this weekend. Any word Choo?

Not Arizona from what I understand. I’ll defer to those that may know better like Scheer who put in a CB pick for Marquette.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:08 pm

goslingswagg wrote:
NickyBCats wrote:Daron Holmes announcing this weekend. Any word Choo?
3 crystal balls today for Marquette...doesn’t seem likely for us. It is what it is, don’t think he’s the type of recruit to get upset over. I’ll take a Tubelis or even Batcho type Euro big in the 2021 class and would be ok with that outcome.

I’d fully expect to go the Euro route here.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:18 pm

Sounds like Holmes is going to Dayton.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:33 pm

Another crystal ball for Dezonie

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:09 pm

This thread has me excited about Tubelis. With people saying he could be similar to Nnaji....is he seen as a one and done?
I'm just trying to look into the future, and if you think about it, we probably get almost everyone back again next year. Ira is a senior and T. Brown grad transfer. Other than those two it's probably likrly all the rest are back barring any transfers or surprises?
So while I'm not sure how good they will be this year (I think a 3rd-4th place Pac finish and sneaking into the tournament would be my early prediction), it's kind of refreshing knowing that this group could possibly grow together over the next few years. It's something Arizona hasn't had in a while.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:18 pm

Tubelis has the talent to be one and done. I don't think he has the profile with the NBA that means he definitely will be. Nico and Green had that profile. Zeke played himself into it. Tubelis would have to play himself in. He can, but will he?

Nbadraft.net has Mathurin at #30 in the 2021 draft and Akinjo at #47. Those are the only Cats mentioned in 2021, and I'd be surprised if Mathurin stays there.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:24 am

Holmes to Dayton is official.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:54 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Holmes to Dayton is official.

There was a time, essentially for 3 decades, when AZ never would have lost a recruiting battle to Dayton. Times have changed.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:48 pm

midnightx wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Holmes to Dayton is official.
There was a time, essentially for 3 decades, when AZ never would have lost a recruiting battle to Dayton. Times have changed.

Changed indeed.

Anyone who believes the NCAA mess hasn't had (and is having) a negative impact on our recruiting is living in an alternate reality.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:08 pm

midnightx wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Holmes to Dayton is official.
There was a time, essentially for 3 decades, when AZ never would have lost a recruiting battle to Dayton. Times have changed.

He’s a 4/5 who wanted immediate playing time at the 3. He wasn’t going to get that at Arizona. Guy had offers from Kansas and other major schools. This wasn’t an Arizona FBI issue.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:41 am

There's a possibility to keep your eyes open today.

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:06 am

Eyes are open!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:49 am

ChooChooCat wrote:This wasn’t an Arizona FBI issue.

Maybe not this particular recruitment, but midnight and dmj are absolutely right about the impact on our recruiting. Things aren’t like they were 5 years ago.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:01 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:This wasn’t an Arizona FBI issue.
Maybe not this particular recruitment, but midnight and dmj are absolutely right about the impact on our recruiting. Things aren’t like they were 5 years ago.

Well yeah. We're still landing quality players though. It just matters if you're clamoring for one and dones or not I guess.

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:09 am

Per the Athletic 5 level 1 violations not all on men’s bball

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:10 am

Miller got hit with lack of control as well as the swimming and diving coach. University got hit for lack of institutional control

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:31 am

Kansas basketball alone got 5 Level 1 violations. They currently have a top 50 and a top 75 guy committed, both committed after the announcement of their NOA.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:24 pm

Anyways is it 3pm Tucson time yet?

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