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Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:55 am
by TheCat
The bad thing for Arizona is foreign players are not eligible for NIL.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:45 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:55 am
The bad thing for Arizona is foreign players are not eligible for NIL.
Can I ask why you're saying this? It's different from my understanding, but not an area I have heavily researched.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:00 pm
by UAEebs86
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:45 pm
TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:55 am
The bad thing for Arizona is foreign players are not eligible for NIL.
Can I ask why you're saying this? It's different from my understanding, but not an area I have heavily researched.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles ... l-windfall
https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/inter ... f-nil-deal
It's basically because their student visas don't give them the right to work in the US.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:11 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Thank you.
I got thrown because of the idea of not being eligible. This is totally semantics, but I focused on the fact NIL itself doesn't bar them instead of the idea that even if NIL does not bar them, it could endanger the visa. Again, thanks for providing clarity.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:50 pm
by TheCat
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:11 pm
Thank you.
I got thrown because of the idea of not being eligible. This is totally semantics, but I focused on the fact NIL itself doesn't bar them instead of the idea that even if NIL does not bar them, it could endanger the visa. Again, thanks for providing clarity.
Should have been more clear. Sorry.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:12 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:50 pm
Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:11 pm
Thank you.
I got thrown because of the idea of not being eligible. This is totally semantics, but I focused on the fact NIL itself doesn't bar them instead of the idea that even if NIL does not bar them, it could endanger the visa. Again, thanks for providing clarity.
Should have been more clear. Sorry.
Hey, I learned something today. Never an apology for that.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:21 pm
by dmjcat
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:49 pm
by dovecanyoncat
If he wants to feel at home he should come here. There's nothing dusty about Spokane.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:24 pm
by dmjcat
Arizona: “Since I was a kid, Arizona has always been my dream school so I was really excited to get out there. Coach (Tommy) Lloyd is a great coach coming from Gonzaga. Their style of play is fast, uptempo, sharing the ball, high IQ. They also have great fans there. The atmosphere was definitely crazy versus USC. It’s Arizona, you know? You can’t go wrong with it. I just had a great time in general.”
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:42 pm
by Beachcat97
Lol @ “final 8”
Used to be a player pretty much considered 2 or 3 schools tops, and then made his decision relatively early. Now they have a dozen “finalists” and drag this shit out into the summer. Ridiculous.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:21 am
by U.P. Zona Fan
Missing a few logos on the bottom of his pic there.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:27 am
by MountainCat
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:21 am
Missing a few logos on the bottom of his pic there.
They’re at the bottom and are cut off in the twitter window. Click on the picture and the others three teams logos show up.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:52 am
by azgreg
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:07 pm
by dmjcat
After officially visiting, Memphis, Arizona, and most recently Texas Tech, Lewis doesn't plan on visiting any more schools, for now, he tells RedRaiderSports.com. He has also unofficially visited Texas, Baylor, SMU, and Houston.
Being ranked as high as he is, Lewis has had numerous schools calling his phone for years. Now that he is getting closer to a decision, Lewis says Arizona, Texas Tech, Arkansas, and Alabama are standing out the most.
"Those are the schools standing out the most, to name a few."
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:27 pm
by goslingswagg
big visit this weekend with Boswell in town....lock him up Tommy!
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:09 am
by RondaeShimmy
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:14 am
by 84Cat
Great recruiting tool for us
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:42 pm
by RondaeShimmy
goslingswagg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:27 pm
big visit this weekend with Boswell in town....lock him up Tommy!
If people remember, when Miller actually started getting top ranked kids (usc raiding aside), is AFTER his 2011 run.
After that basically all you heard kids talking about that team and especially Derrick Williams in all the interviews.
A really successful and fun tournament run will really help Tommy, because let's face it no one is watching the PAC 12 network + these late starts
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:55 pm
by TheCat
Well some very good news is that Kylan Boswell got to see ESPN game day and McKale Center was alive for the Oregon game. He had to be impressed because it looked like a lot of folks standing most of the second half.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:19 pm
by dmjcat
TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:55 pm
Well some very good news is that Kylan Boswell got to see ESPN game day and McKale Center was alive for the Oregon game. He had to be impressed because it looked like a lot of folks standing most of the second half.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:29 am
by Alieberman
Yep... very good game for a recruit to witness. I can't imagine a better environment to be in
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:34 pm
by dmjcat
Looks like its either Illinois or AZ.........Decision within 2 weeks
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:00 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Oh baby
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:19 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
His grandpa played at Illinois? And he grew up there??
If we get him, Tommy has a direct line to a higher Power.
And I will be awaiting a natty!
Would we want him to reclass? Sometimes that doesn't go well.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:52 pm
by Beachcat97
If it’s really down to us and Illinois, I love our chances. Nothing against the Illini. They just ain’t AZ.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:49 am
by dmjcat
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:52 pm
If it’s really down to us and Illinois, I love our chances. Nothing against the Illini. They just ain’t AZ.
This quote from the article makes me think he's headed to AZ:
"Great," he said of his time at Illinois. '
The visit was mostly about my mom, to be honest. She wanted to see coach [Brad] Underwood's and [Adam] Fletcher’s plan for me and tour the facilities."
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:02 am
by RondaeShimmy
Sometimes moms win.
aka Moms for Miller
Btw if he does commit to Arizona, I've seen enough bad reclassify situations that I'm good not wanting that. Especially if he's 1nD.
With Lloyd's play style and hopefully good tournament showcase, he can attract a good quality grad transfer to help out Kerr.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:07 am
by RondaeShimmy
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:52 am
by EastCoastCat
The Aw Shucks Assassin vs. Hard Ass Underwood?
Hmmm.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:24 pm
by YoDeFoe
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
by IndianaZonaFan
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Lewis wants to decide in next 3-5 weeks and doesn’t have any more visits either…
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:19 pm
by Beachcat97
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Not sure, but this season will absolutely create recruiting momentum, even with the possibility of sanctions still looming. Guys are gonna wanna play for Lloyd and be part of this "flow" offense and proud tradition, baby.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:33 pm
by dmjcat
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Lewis wants to decide in next 3-5 weeks and doesn’t have any more visits either…
Definitely possible, but CTL will have to navigate the recruiting game carefully.
If Lewis commits do we stop recruiting Dusty Stromer??
Does CTL focus the rest of his efforts on the transfer portal??
Is CTL assuming that the IARP sanctions will probably include a loss of scholarships? (I would)
Is Aiken ever coming back (which will tie up another scholarship)??
How many of our current players will jump ship and run to the league after the season?
CTL is going to need a full bottle of aspirin over the coming months. Its not a fun time to recruit as a college basketball or football coach.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:49 pm
by Beachcat97
Our backcourt is looking pretty solid for next season: Terry, Kriisa, Larsson, Bal and Nowell.
Just wanted to point that out.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:36 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:38 pm
by Merkin
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Lewis wants to decide in next 3-5 weeks and doesn’t have any more visits either…
Will there be enough scholarships? One coming in, and Mathurin and Kier leaving, along with any IARP scholarship penalty.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:40 pm
by Beachcat97
While adding Boswell will be very exciting, I think '23 is a better year for him to come in than '22. Terry could go pro after next season, opening up a lot of backcourt minutes. Also, it's hard to say right now what we're getting in Bal and Nowell. I could see Boswell either starting or being first off the bench in '23. We should still have Larsson too. That's a loaded backcourt.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:42 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:38 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Lewis wants to decide in next 3-5 weeks and doesn’t have any more visits either…
Will there be enough scholarships? One coming in, and Mathurin and Kier leaving, along with any IARP scholarship penalty.
Boswell and Lewis are both 2023, so next year's class (although Boswell is a reclassify potential)
Current class with Dylan Anderson only has 1 total commit. I'm assuming a lot of players coming back and go grad transfer route for '22 and there's a Euro or two out there
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:44 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Looks like Scheer just added his crystal ball for Arizona as well, joining the 247 recruiting analyst
At this point of recruiting, commiting only makes sense if he's reclassifying.... so good help for Kerr next year. He's a dog defending.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:53 pm
by EastCoastCat
Are we where we want to be?
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:10 pm
by YoDeFoe
We currently have two open scholarship spots on the team (Aiken, who won't be returning, and an actual open spot).
We'll lose Kier to graduation, and Math and potentially Koloko to the draft (I know - "he loves school!" - but he's also projected as the 25th pick in this year's draft in the latest Athletic mock).
That's four to five open spots for next season. We have Anderson coming in and I believe the secret euro is still in play (I've heard no update since early season indicating one way or another, so I'll assume we've stayed the course).
That leaves two to three spots remaining.
Scholarship reductions: We likely get hit with two and they'll give us credit for the one we've held out this year. That leaves one open spot needed sometime in the following four classes (you get four years generally to take the hit).
We could easily return everyone except Math and Kier and Aiken, add Anderson and his fellow big, and still have room for Boswell to reclass. And then 2023... who knows what the roster looks like. Terry will likely want to go and I firmly believe that Larsson has the potential to be a first round pick in the 2023 draft.
So yeah - no roster crunch quiet yet. Looking forward to picking up commitments from KJ and Kylan in the coming weeks. Would be great momentum for the program and be a huge lift to our future.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:53 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Boswell's eval is something we desperately need, a ball pressuring guard.
COMPARISON
Patrick Beverley
Boswell is a competitive and winning point guard with a strong and sturdy frame who sets the tone on the defensive end. One of the best on-ball defenders in his class, Boswell is aggressive in getting into opposing ball handlers and guarding with physicality. He has the length to make life hard on whoever he is facing and is one who wins most one-on-one battles when guarding in transition. "Timely" is the best word to describe his offensive game. Boswell plays with pace and is fundamentally sound off the bounce. He has the vision to make the right pass and can be dependable shooting the ball from deep when in rhythm although his shot could use more consistency. However, he always can be counted upon to make the big play at the right time -- whether it be a timely bucket, pass, or forced turnover. He is all about winning and is one of those players who is proven in uplifting a team with great talent around him.
Rivals also has two new picks for Arizona today
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/ ... ell-277383
This note from the Rivals Illinois publisher
"Doug Bucshon
02/22/22 4:04 pm
Arizona has long been the presumed leader, and that status was solidified on an official visit on February 19-20. Sources close to the Arizona program believe the Wildcats are in a good position."
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:57 pm
by Jefe
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:59 pm
by azgreg
EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:53 pm
Are we where we want to be?
I feel pretty good about it.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:22 pm
by TheCat
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Lewis wants to decide in next 3-5 weeks and doesn’t have any more visits either…
One's a point and one is a shooting guard right?
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:55 pm
by NickyBCats
Kj will be deciding in next few weeks. I like our chances but seems as Texas tech has made a strong push. He’s been quoted multiple times saying Arizona has always been his dream school.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:59 pm
by YoDeFoe
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:22 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Any chance we get both Boswell AND Lewis?
Lewis wants to decide in next 3-5 weeks and doesn’t have any more visits either…
One's a point and one is a shooting guard right?
Would be a blessing to have them both playing together. Boswell is a point and Lewis is more of a wing. Both excellent defenders (on and off ball), both pass well and can get a bucket. No reason they couldn't play together.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:03 pm
by RondaeShimmy
NickyBCats wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:55 pm
Kj will be deciding in next few weeks. I like our chances but seems as Texas tech has made a strong push. He’s been quoted multiple times saying Arizona has always been his dream school.
Pretty sure he's lived in Tucson when he was little iirc
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:05 pm
by dmjcat
YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:10 pm
We currently have two open scholarship spots on the team (Aiken, who won't be returning, and an actual open spot).
We'll lose Kier to graduation, and Math and potentially Koloko to the draft (I know - "he loves school!" - but he's also projected as the 25th pick in this year's draft in the latest Athletic mock).
That's four to five open spots for next season. We have Anderson coming in and I believe the secret euro is still in play (I've heard no update since early season indicating one way or another, so I'll assume we've stayed the course).
That leaves two to three spots remaining.
Scholarship reductions: We likely get hit with two and they'll give us credit for the one we've held out this year. That leaves one open spot needed sometime in the following four classes (you get four years generally to take the hit).
We could easily return everyone except Math and Kier and Aiken, add Anderson and his fellow big, and still have room for Boswell to reclass. And then 2023... who knows what the roster looks like. Terry will likely want to go and I firmly believe that Larsson has the potential to be a first round pick in the 2023 draft.
So yeah - no roster crunch quiet yet. Looking forward to picking up commitments from KJ and Kylan in the coming weeks. Would be great momentum for the program and be a huge lift to our future.
Do we know for sure that Aiken wont be back???
If that was announced I must have been asleep.
Re: Let's talk '23
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:55 pm
by TheCat
I think it is an assumption but a pretty good one.
