Bear Down Wildcats

EVCat wrote:If the NCAA feels the pressure and fixes this Trier thing (or a lawyer makes sure the NCAA is not using a dehydrated test to restrict future earnings)...

...and the spreadsheet shows nothing related to Arizona...

...could we? Be back to normal?

Yeah but with callouses.

This FBI thing is starting to feel like everyone & everything is about to come down & college basketball (as we know it) is about to change - a lot. Maybe not in the next couple months...but it sure looks like that's what's coming. The releasing and leaking of this information has been slowly for a reason. I'm just not sure anyone but the super high ups know what that is.

What exactly is gonna change? The rules? Outside sources are paying players who the hell cares.

CatHoops wrote:What exactly is gonna change? The rules? Outside sources are paying players who the hell cares.

The upside I guess is that the fans don't care. But if the entire sport is corrupt & the FBI is trying to prove it - doesn't it seem like this could result in an overhaul of some sort? Or are they just gonna keep chipping away at a player here, school there? I admittedly have no idea. Just seems massive to me.

Don't see how a school can police family and agents making deals it's not possible. They make it headline ncaa scandal cause that grabs a big audience.

The fact this info is getting leaked out makes me think the case is falling apart

CatHoops wrote:The fact this info is getting leaked out makes me think the case is falling apart

The issue of the leaks is that none of these things are Federal crimes (other than the money laundering stuff)...the only way this goes forward is if the Universities remain "victims"...because of NCAA violations...

In other words the FBI's case depends on the NCAA rules...that is the only way the Universities can be the victim, but this gets really dicey because of the Universities are benefiting by illegally recruiting players they are no longer victims but perpetrators violating NCAA rules...

At this point the University of Arizona is one of the FEW colleges that can claim being a victim here because of Book...this may actually turn out in our favor

Bear Down Vegas wrote:

CatHoops wrote:What exactly is gonna change? The rules? Outside sources are paying players who the hell cares.

The upside I guess is that the fans don't care. But if the entire sport is corrupt & the FBI is trying to prove it - doesn't it seem like this could result in an overhaul of some sort? Or are they just gonna keep chipping away at a player here, school there? I admittedly have no idea. Just seems massive to me.

If you actually care about NCAA rules, today brought out that over 20 top programs had players on the court who were ineligible for receipt of extra benefits from ASM.

The more philosophical question is whether that's actually corrupt. An agency that makes money representing athletes paid money to athletes it wanted to represent. It's basically direct compensation for a skill. In America, that's cool unless you're a NCAA athlete.

Personally, I could care less if agents want to bankroll players. Money for talent is fine. The only part I get hacked off about is that Arizona has been dragged through the mud this season despite virtually all the top 20 having played a kid who got extra benefits.

This is the system. As long as you don't run the holier than thou game, I don't care. If you're Tad Boyle attacking Arizona, I want the spreadsheets to have your players on it.

It's weird that getting "Allonzo Trier-ed" is going to eventually mean the opposite of getting Allonzo cleared.

Alieberman wrote:PJC was just ruled to be "too small" from the NCAA.

Suspended for the rest of the year.

tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

Yep, all the teams in trouble can have their own tournament.

azgreg wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

Yep, all the teams in trouble can have their own tournament.

That's pretty much just the regular tournament at this point.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

Totally, its what the people want to see anyways.

sounds like our game tomorrow is highly anticipated, so that is good.

Has Lee finished his concussion protocol in time for tonight's game at Oregon?

DiehardDave37 wrote:Has Lee finished his concussion protocol in time for tonight's game at Oregon?

On pregame for the Oregon State game BJ said Lee didn't make the trip so I highly doubt it.

its not like Miller was going to do anything anyways in March, yet he's treated like a god still today

The tombstone will read Sean Miller Era:
2009-2018
7 Recruiting Final Fours, 0 Actual Final Fours, 3 Elite Eights, 2 FBI Wiretaps

I can't believe people are sticking up for this crook. Have some dignity

This was my first thought this morning. I’m praying for more news from other schools so that whatever we did or didn’t do looks more and more like par for the course (which it obviously is).

Chicat wrote:

This was my first thought this morning. I’m praying for more news from other schools so that whatever we did or didn’t do looks more and more like par for the course (which it obviously is).

But, Chi, don’t you think ADs/coaches/admins from the schools named are in dialogue with lawyers and the NCAA trying to manage the fallout from all of this as much as possible? CBS too. So even if there’s more coming with other schools, they’re going to stagger the release of info, if not keep things entirely under wraps. There’s too much at stake. They probably figure: let Sean and AZ take the heat and attention right now, which buys others a little time to plot the next move.

I thought Louisville was first, and that makes us second.
On top of our real dilemma, do we also have to put up with RiseandFire.? Make me a mod, I'll rise and fire him!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

See all you bastards tonight. Bust the Beavers!

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstool ... 2198728184

Wasn't sure where to post this but this seems like a pretty general thread.

NIT Will Use Experimental Rules Again This Year

• The three-point line will be extended by approximately 1 foot 8 inches to the same distance used by FIBA for international competition (22 feet 1.75 inches).
• The free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA.
• The games will be divided into four 10-minute quarters as opposed to two 20-minute halves. Teams will shoot two free throws beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter.
• The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds after an offensive rebound instead of the full 30 seconds.

Let's go win this whole mother fucker!!

Alieberman wrote:Let's go win this whole mother fucker!!

It’s the only way! Bear down!

It's happening. I would *not* want to be in AZ's region.

Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

The way Ayton played at Oregon, I'd welcome hostile crowds. But we know Vegas won't be, and the tourney games, even in the most lopsided locations, are so neutered anyways.

Depending on how the REAL news/sports sources (not ESPN) cover this, Sean could really come across as a wronged victim of fake news. If that happens, there will be a lot of people all across the country who will be rooting for the Wildcats to win it all.

EastCoastCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

Alieberman wrote:

EastCoastCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

I totally agree. Just hope this team plays well angry.... I think they will

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

Alieberman wrote:

EastCoastCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

I read that as anus.

PAC-12 Champs bitches!

Only way we're not sole pac 12 champs is if we lose to Cal and USC beats UCLA. Any of the other 3 scenarios Saturday and we're sole champs. Guaranteed the 1 seed in the tournament either way. Game with ASU is looming next Thursday now too.

Longhorned wrote:

EVCat wrote:If the NCAA feels the pressure and fixes this Trier thing (or a lawyer makes sure the NCAA is not using a dehydrated test to restrict future earnings)...

...and the spreadsheet shows nothing related to Arizona...

...could we? Be back to normal?

Yeah but with callouses.

Anus v. the world mentality!

Stanford is a great matchup for this team. Pretty solid at every position.

If I am correct, the wildcats only have 3 losses with their regular starting 5 correct?

This team needs Alkins to be a consistent, regular contributor.

Longhorned wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

EVCat wrote:If the NCAA feels the pressure and fixes this Trier thing (or a lawyer makes sure the NCAA is not using a dehydrated test to restrict future earnings)...

...and the spreadsheet shows nothing related to Arizona...

...could we? Be back to normal?

Yeah but with callouses.

Anus v. the world mentality!

Never good when the anus develops callouses. But that’s where we are at.

Looks like we've improved 6-7 spots on adj D. 106 (iirc) ------> 99
Asu BTW is at 88

Whoa that’s cool.

I guess for defense to gel it takes time. Is there enough I wonder or is it it is what it is?

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

Alieberman wrote:

EastCoastCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

They should play 2pac's "Bomb First" when they run out of the tunnel.

I'm an ESPN killa, NCAA die too
Lookin out for Greg Hansen, bitch when I find you
Weak motherf-ckers don't deserve to breathe
How many Arizona fans down to die for meee? Yay yayeeee
West coast rider, comin right behind ya
Should have never f-cked with meeeeeeeee
I want to cut down the nets with Rawleeee
I wont rest until Trier is freeeeee, BOMB FIRST

Favorite thing about last night

rgdeuce wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

Alieberman wrote:

EastCoastCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

They should play 2pac's "Bomb First" when they run out of the tunnel.

I'm an ESPN killa, NCAA die too
Lookin out for Greg Hansen, bitch when I find you
Weak motherf-ckers don't deserve to breathe
How many Arizona fans down to die for meee? Yay yayeeee
West coast rider, comin right behind ya
Should have never f-cked with meeeeeeeee
I want to cut down the nets with Rawleeee
I wont rest until Trier is freeeeee, BOMB FIRST

Ha. I just posted "Hit Em Up" lyrics in the Miller thread, then I click here and see this.

I sort of prefer Hit Em Up because Schlabach can be the major target and various other media personalities can be the alternative targets, but Bomb First is a great song too.

Heck, if by some miracle we make the Final Four, Miller should come out to Picture Me Rollin. Pac's entire discography is appropriate. Or we should really fire at the NCAA and play Picture Me Rollin for Ayton...

Per the Tupac discussion, is there anyone talented with photo/gif shopping who could put Miller and/or ESPN into this gif?



I would be forever in your debt.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Per the Tupac discussion, is there anyone talented with photo/gif shopping who could put Miller and/or ESPN into this gif?



I would be forever in your debt.

Not sure if that specific one is on there, but a lot of people I know use the app GifJif

Pac 12 Champs, yet again.

Which west coast writer pre-season picked Arizona to finish 4th in conference?

Longhorned wrote:Which west coast writer pre-season picked Arizona to finish 4th in conference?

Had to be Goodman, right?