Re: Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:08 pm
Wait - what's all this now?
A co-op community for Arizona Fans
http://beardownwildcats.com/
Dispersal of all your refrigerant like porridge to a humble village. Try to stay cool. A HA HA HA.Schnebly wrote:Wait - what's all this now?
That may be and to the uninformed non Arizona college basketball fan it probably passes as a representation of Arizona basketball.JMarkJohns wrote:I can’t speak to the column. I won’t read it. I’m depressed enough. But, in general, The Ringer is not even close to BleacherReport.CalStateTempe wrote:Isn't the ringer just a step up from bleacher report?
I stopped reading after "what did Arizona fans do to deserve this." What a hot mess of conjecture and sensationalism. Titus clearly does not get that correlation does not equal causation.
Boo hoo douche bag low level sports journalist (he's on the ringer for Christ sakes) wrote an article to sand bag on Arizona and miller and was upset the college basketball scandal broke but didn't want to rewrite, and saw Arizona was peripherally involved, so his 20w refrigerator bulb of an idea was to rework his original story into the tripe linked above. And he's gonna be "edgy" by saying Arizona a fans have had blue ball for 16years! Wow, I can't believe he said that!!!
Arizona should sue for libel. Again putting sewage out there that will alter the perception of the casual college bball fan.
With friends like these...
Titus is a damn good college writer.
And The Ringer is the reincarnation (albeit a lesser version) of Grantland. The idea is bring in the best writers in specific genres and give them free reign through HBO partnership.
Is it perfect? No.
But it isn’t Bleacher Report.
You need some quotes, go to this guy:CalStateTempe wrote:Yeah I guess I didn't drop enough "blue balls" in my posts
Author used the phrase twice. Maybe next time consult a thesaurus or urban dictionary.
So maybe not libel.CalStateTempe wrote:Not a surgeon either...a diagnostician, I have time to think.gumby wrote:Dammit, Jim, I'm a poster not a doctor!
You guys get my hot takes here so that I remain sane in the real world and a good husband, father, professional.
Lucky you.
Will take a breath and read the article in full when I get home. But I surmise my initial nthoughts were because it was all too real.
Let me define that for you.Spaceman Spiff wrote:You know it's been a bad stretch when people are using words like "pedantic."
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- Five-star point guard Jahvon Quinerly said Saturday that his family has hired a lawyer, but he has not been contacted yet by federal authorities in connection with the FBI investigation into college basketball last month.
1 more timeBosy Billups wrote:Too Soon Take:
Feel really bad for Book. He make a mistake, yes, broke some laws, but the consequences will be far more dire then the action. Not like he got someone hurt, or he was even malicious against a person. Thought he'd make a quick buck in a return favor, but that the kid would probably be in fine shape steering to that individual. Just lack of judgment. However, he has burned the bridge of his best friend and mentor Miller, probably won't coach for a long time, face jail and/or fines, huge lawyer fees, reputation hits, etc., all for the quick buck. Pray for Book.
He posts pretty much with any story with any program. He's dialed in on a certain level of hoops and it's on Arizona right now because Arizona is a story.Catintheheat wrote:Why is Russ Smith so obsessed with Arizona basketball? Envy?
Been on that board for years I've been a Cardinals fan since 1975.Irish27 wrote:Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/ ... st-3574518" target="_blank
Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030
Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor
Mr. Boldin said: ↑
I mean, I didn't see him say anything like that so I'm asking. I know you love to drop any rumor you hear in here, and clearly aren't a fan of 97. So maybe you can help me out.
Only thing I saw him post about Leaf is that his AAU team steered him to UCLA, which everyone figured and nobody mentioned money.
Here is Russ' reply to Mr. Boldin:
Someone asked him if the 150k from Adidas to Leaf was still true and he said yes. and that rumor is an accepted fact on that board now.
The Rabb stuff is in the same thread, and was all over the Scout board when it started to become obvious that Rabb was going to Cal not Arizona. I actually called him on it then and told him that Rabb had promised his mom he'd stay home until his younger brother graduated HS. He insisted that wasn't true and would become obvious when Rabb was a one and done. Instead Rabb stayed 2 years, his brother graduated HS, and then Rabb turned pro. I got that 2nd hand from a guy who got it from Lou Richie who was his HS coach. his own mom publicly said we're not going to go to arizona just because that's where everyone thinks we should go.
To be clear I strongly believe he has very good contacts with the UA staff and that's why he has so much inside stuff on recruiting. And again, that's why it bothers me so much, everyone believes what he says, there are still people on that board defending him on the Miller was tipped off by the FBI stuff.
I actually don't post a fraction of the stuff I hear, mostly because I know much of it comes from UCLA fans who have a clear bias. We had our own Leaf rumors involving Nike trying to steal the dad and get TJ to play for the Oakland Soldiers, Gershon even confirmed the Soldiers story. After he flipped back to UCLA, Gershon admitted on BRO that he believed TJ was going where he always wanted to, the whole arizona thing had been an issue with his dad and Adidas(Don MacLean).
I have personal reasons I don't like him which I've probably posted here before.
Russ Smith wrote:Been on that board for years I've been a Cardinals fan since 1975.Irish27 wrote:Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/ ... st-3574518" target="_blank
Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030
Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor
Mr. Boldin said: ↑
I mean, I didn't see him say anything like that so I'm asking. I know you love to drop any rumor you hear in here, and clearly aren't a fan of 97. So maybe you can help me out.
Only thing I saw him post about Leaf is that his AAU team steered him to UCLA, which everyone figured and nobody mentioned money.
Here is Russ' reply to Mr. Boldin:
Someone asked him if the 150k from Adidas to Leaf was still true and he said yes. and that rumor is an accepted fact on that board now.
The Rabb stuff is in the same thread, and was all over the Scout board when it started to become obvious that Rabb was going to Cal not Arizona. I actually called him on it then and told him that Rabb had promised his mom he'd stay home until his younger brother graduated HS. He insisted that wasn't true and would become obvious when Rabb was a one and done. Instead Rabb stayed 2 years, his brother graduated HS, and then Rabb turned pro. I got that 2nd hand from a guy who got it from Lou Richie who was his HS coach. his own mom publicly said we're not going to go to arizona just because that's where everyone thinks we should go.
To be clear I strongly believe he has very good contacts with the UA staff and that's why he has so much inside stuff on recruiting. And again, that's why it bothers me so much, everyone believes what he says, there are still people on that board defending him on the Miller was tipped off by the FBI stuff.
I actually don't post a fraction of the stuff I hear, mostly because I know much of it comes from UCLA fans who have a clear bias. We had our own Leaf rumors involving Nike trying to steal the dad and get TJ to play for the Oakland Soldiers, Gershon even confirmed the Soldiers story. After he flipped back to UCLA, Gershon admitted on BRO that he believed TJ was going where he always wanted to, the whole arizona thing had been an issue with his dad and Adidas(Don MacLean).
I have personal reasons I don't like him which I've probably posted here before.
\That board started out as just a Cardinals board and then expanded into a huge board, the Arizona fans part is a very small part of that board.
I did a book report on Jim Hart after reading his autobiography in 5th grade. I remember Ottis Anderson's rookie year, the guy was the only bright spot on that team. Playing on that turf at Busch Stadium in the cold must of been brutal.Hank of sb wrote:Russ Smith wrote:Been on that board for years I've been a Cardinals fan since 1975.Irish27 wrote:Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/ ... st-3574518" target="_blank
Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030
Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor
Mr. Boldin said: ↑
I mean, I didn't see him say anything like that so I'm asking. I know you love to drop any rumor you hear in here, and clearly aren't a fan of 97. So maybe you can help me out.
Only thing I saw him post about Leaf is that his AAU team steered him to UCLA, which everyone figured and nobody mentioned money.
Here is Russ' reply to Mr. Boldin:
Someone asked him if the 150k from Adidas to Leaf was still true and he said yes. and that rumor is an accepted fact on that board now.
The Rabb stuff is in the same thread, and was all over the Scout board when it started to become obvious that Rabb was going to Cal not Arizona. I actually called him on it then and told him that Rabb had promised his mom he'd stay home until his younger brother graduated HS. He insisted that wasn't true and would become obvious when Rabb was a one and done. Instead Rabb stayed 2 years, his brother graduated HS, and then Rabb turned pro. I got that 2nd hand from a guy who got it from Lou Richie who was his HS coach. his own mom publicly said we're not going to go to arizona just because that's where everyone thinks we should go.
To be clear I strongly believe he has very good contacts with the UA staff and that's why he has so much inside stuff on recruiting. And again, that's why it bothers me so much, everyone believes what he says, there are still people on that board defending him on the Miller was tipped off by the FBI stuff.
I actually don't post a fraction of the stuff I hear, mostly because I know much of it comes from UCLA fans who have a clear bias. We had our own Leaf rumors involving Nike trying to steal the dad and get TJ to play for the Oakland Soldiers, Gershon even confirmed the Soldiers story. After he flipped back to UCLA, Gershon admitted on BRO that he believed TJ was going where he always wanted to, the whole arizona thing had been an issue with his dad and Adidas(Don MacLean).
I have personal reasons I don't like him which I've probably posted here before.
\That board started out as just a Cardinals board and then expanded into a huge board, the Arizona fans part is a very small part of that board.
Jim Hart, Terry Metcalf, Mel Gray, Jackie Smith, Dierdorf/Dobler, Roger Wherle and Jim Bakken. One of the greatest Cardinals teams ever. 1975. Unheralded and forgotten like most, if not all Cardinal teams, no matter where they played or what city they represented.
Although the Super Bowl Phoenix, err 'Arizona' Cardinals with Kurt Warner was a special run.
Busch Stadium was a great venue but St. Louis weather was not.Irish27 wrote:I did a book report on Jim Hart after reading his autobiography in 5th grade. I remember Ottis Anderson's rookie year, the guy was the only bright spot on that team. Playing on that turf at Busch Stadium in the cold must of been brutal.Hank of sb wrote:Russ Smith wrote:Been on that board for years I've been a Cardinals fan since 1975.Irish27 wrote:Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/ ... st-3574518" target="_blank
Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030
Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor
Mr. Boldin said: ↑
I mean, I didn't see him say anything like that so I'm asking. I know you love to drop any rumor you hear in here, and clearly aren't a fan of 97. So maybe you can help me out.
Only thing I saw him post about Leaf is that his AAU team steered him to UCLA, which everyone figured and nobody mentioned money.
Here is Russ' reply to Mr. Boldin:
Someone asked him if the 150k from Adidas to Leaf was still true and he said yes. and that rumor is an accepted fact on that board now.
The Rabb stuff is in the same thread, and was all over the Scout board when it started to become obvious that Rabb was going to Cal not Arizona. I actually called him on it then and told him that Rabb had promised his mom he'd stay home until his younger brother graduated HS. He insisted that wasn't true and would become obvious when Rabb was a one and done. Instead Rabb stayed 2 years, his brother graduated HS, and then Rabb turned pro. I got that 2nd hand from a guy who got it from Lou Richie who was his HS coach. his own mom publicly said we're not going to go to arizona just because that's where everyone thinks we should go.
To be clear I strongly believe he has very good contacts with the UA staff and that's why he has so much inside stuff on recruiting. And again, that's why it bothers me so much, everyone believes what he says, there are still people on that board defending him on the Miller was tipped off by the FBI stuff.
I actually don't post a fraction of the stuff I hear, mostly because I know much of it comes from UCLA fans who have a clear bias. We had our own Leaf rumors involving Nike trying to steal the dad and get TJ to play for the Oakland Soldiers, Gershon even confirmed the Soldiers story. After he flipped back to UCLA, Gershon admitted on BRO that he believed TJ was going where he always wanted to, the whole arizona thing had been an issue with his dad and Adidas(Don MacLean).
I have personal reasons I don't like him which I've probably posted here before.
\That board started out as just a Cardinals board and then expanded into a huge board, the Arizona fans part is a very small part of that board.
Jim Hart, Terry Metcalf, Mel Gray, Jackie Smith, Dierdorf/Dobler, Roger Wherle and Jim Bakken. One of the greatest Cardinals teams ever. 1975. Unheralded and forgotten like most, if not all Cardinal teams, no matter where they played or what city they represented.
Although the Super Bowl Phoenix, err 'Arizona' Cardinals with Kurt Warner was a special run.
I was born in Missouri but we moved to California before I was 2 because of the weather. My parents referred to it as "Misery" not Missouri.Hank of sb wrote:Russ Smith wrote:Been on that board for years I've been a Cardinals fan since 1975.Irish27 wrote:Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/ ... st-3574518" target="_blank
Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030
Russ Smith The Original Whizzinator Contributor
Mr. Boldin said: ↑
I mean, I didn't see him say anything like that so I'm asking. I know you love to drop any rumor you hear in here, and clearly aren't a fan of 97. So maybe you can help me out.
Only thing I saw him post about Leaf is that his AAU team steered him to UCLA, which everyone figured and nobody mentioned money.
Here is Russ' reply to Mr. Boldin:
Someone asked him if the 150k from Adidas to Leaf was still true and he said yes. and that rumor is an accepted fact on that board now.
The Rabb stuff is in the same thread, and was all over the Scout board when it started to become obvious that Rabb was going to Cal not Arizona. I actually called him on it then and told him that Rabb had promised his mom he'd stay home until his younger brother graduated HS. He insisted that wasn't true and would become obvious when Rabb was a one and done. Instead Rabb stayed 2 years, his brother graduated HS, and then Rabb turned pro. I got that 2nd hand from a guy who got it from Lou Richie who was his HS coach. his own mom publicly said we're not going to go to arizona just because that's where everyone thinks we should go.
To be clear I strongly believe he has very good contacts with the UA staff and that's why he has so much inside stuff on recruiting. And again, that's why it bothers me so much, everyone believes what he says, there are still people on that board defending him on the Miller was tipped off by the FBI stuff.
I actually don't post a fraction of the stuff I hear, mostly because I know much of it comes from UCLA fans who have a clear bias. We had our own Leaf rumors involving Nike trying to steal the dad and get TJ to play for the Oakland Soldiers, Gershon even confirmed the Soldiers story. After he flipped back to UCLA, Gershon admitted on BRO that he believed TJ was going where he always wanted to, the whole arizona thing had been an issue with his dad and Adidas(Don MacLean).
I have personal reasons I don't like him which I've probably posted here before.
\That board started out as just a Cardinals board and then expanded into a huge board, the Arizona fans part is a very small part of that board.
Jim Hart, Terry Metcalf, Mel Gray, Jackie Smith, Dierdorf/Dobler, Roger Wherle and Jim Bakken. One of the greatest Cardinals teams ever. 1975. Unheralded and forgotten like most, if not all Cardinal teams, no matter where they played or what city they represented.
Although the Super Bowl Phoenix, err 'Arizona' Cardinals with Kurt Warner was a special run.
gumby wrote:Geez, left out Mark Arneson, of Palo Verde High and the UofA!
Bad fans!
Mike Dawson joined the Cardinals in 1976. Can remember when he had a sports bar in Tucson.
It was called The Sports Page. I think that is where they found the body parts of a woman in the dumpster. I don't think they ever caught the killer.gumby wrote:Geez, left out Mark Arneson, of Palo Verde High and the UofA!
Bad fans!
Mike Dawson joined the Cardinals in 1976. Can remember when he had a sports bar in Tucson.
I think Mark Arneson was a Beta. Not sure. Never was a Greek myself as I had come from Boston (via St. Louis) right after Kent State happened. (The idea of going Greek from the East Coast-- simply.not.possible.) The Greeks weren't bad guys I found out. (Tucson was a time warp.) Poker. Lots of all the other stuff that went on back then was around. Of course.gumby wrote:Geez, left out Mark Arneson, of Palo Verde High and the UofA!
Bad fans!
Mike Dawson joined the Cardinals in 1976. Can remember when he had a sports bar in Tucson.
I was in a class with Jim Arneson, Mark's younger brother. If I remember right it was COBOL programming and I spent a fair bit of time helping him out, but I could be wrong.gumby wrote:Geez, left out Mark Arneson, of Palo Verde High and the UofA!
Bad fans!
Mike Dawson joined the Cardinals in 1976. Can remember when he had a sports bar in Tucson.
Pretty much every one enters a plea of not guilty at arraignment. That means next to zilch. The coming days will mean far more.CatFanOneMil wrote:At Books arraignment today his lawyer claimed he is innocent...100k bond had to give up passport and is on restricted travel, home and NY for court shit only.
Hardcopy media is in trouble, online media is quickly replacing all those trees and vans full of mobile expensive video equipment, hell I watched Joe Lunardi from his bedroom last year I still don't know if he was wearing pants or not...no way in hell I'm watching Jason Barr or reading Pascoe for my "true but accurate" information...Spaceman Spiff wrote:For what it's worth, the daily star is proving why people have an issue with the media in this, IMO. They have a "Day 14" story and have run that day # story every single day since. There just isn't enough news coming out to warrant that. Dropping that in every day...well, it's why I wonder about whether it's covering the story or trying to create the story.
Not unique to this story nor this media outlet, really. The Star is trying to hammer it because of the local angle and now they'll be able to add a "Day 15" snippet tomorrow with Book's hearing this afternoon but look at how this has disappeared from the national news. Jamele Hill and Harvey Weinstein are the big stories today. And it will be something else in a day or two. Even the Las Vegas shooting has become tertiary barely a week later. I stopped checking every outlet each day for new updates about a week ago when it became apparent that this isn't really going anywhere else anytime soon in spite of what Feldman or any other alleged insider tweets out. Between UA Football suddenly having a little sizzle - I hope - the MLB playoffs, Red/Blue coming up, UA Baseball Fall Ball in their revamped digs, the weather getting really nice and everything else that makes this just a fantastic time of year for sports fans in Tucson and many other places, I've pretty much moved on. For now.Spaceman Spiff wrote:For what it's worth, the daily star is proving why people have an issue with the media in this, IMO. They have a "Day 14" story and have run that day # story every single day since. There just isn't enough news coming out to warrant that. Dropping that in every day...well, it's why I wonder about whether it's covering the story or trying to create the story.
What makes you think it will be that short a period of time?Jefe wrote:So we're looking at Dec/Jan before a ruling is made. P12 play before the NCAA acts?
Those timelines are why I think unless the internal investigation makes us strongly believe someone is ineligible, we play this year with no restrictions. We will almost certainly not know what the NCAA thinks by March, IMO.Jefe wrote:Perfect!
I posted that. It said 2 weeks and was based in sources. I wouldn't put a ton on it, but figured I'd toss it in here because at this point, it's pretty much all speculation.CalStateTempe wrote:Just win baby!
I thought I saw a tweet last week about more indictments coming? With other schools. So far nothing...
Wearing Arizona colors?HiCat wrote:Book Richardson's legal trials begin with a brief hearing, a bond — and an embrace
By Jon Gold Special to the Arizona Daily Star Oct 10, 2017
Richardson was joined by his wife, Erin, his lawyers David Axelrod and Craig Mordock, and friends. He appeared in good spirits in the clerk’s office, pacing as he awaited instruction on posting bond. As he exited the courtroom, Richardson — dressed in a blue suit and red tie, Arizona’s colors — first-bumped a reporter and flashed a reserved smile.
Mordock was asked how Richardson was handling the appearance.
“Not well,” before adding that Richardson was “very nervous” about the hearing.
http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... e4d93.html" target="_blank
Whats on it? Can't find it onlineSpaceman Spiff wrote:On the upside, we made the cover of the Sports Illustrated I got today.
Jefe wrote:Whats on it? Can't find it onlineSpaceman Spiff wrote:On the upside, we made the cover of the Sports Illustrated I got today.
Cover jinx means all this shit is just gonna disappear, right?Spaceman Spiff wrote:Jefe wrote:Whats on it? Can't find it onlineSpaceman Spiff wrote:On the upside, we made the cover of the Sports Illustrated I got today.