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Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:54 pm
by Jefe
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings

Quad 1: 4-2
Quad 2: 3-0
Quad 3: 6-0
Quad 4: 7-0

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:28 pm
by 97cats
Al and Odogg and BC with some good points.

many teams vying for a number one seed have been eliminated as each game and week passes (the pool is small now) there are only about ten teams left that could get a number one and about sixteen to twenty that could be top eight.

from AZ's perspective, they are right in the top four of the top sixteen as of today with only two loses.

as mentioned previously, most of the teams in the mix are playing another ranked opponent this week or have already played in the case of Kansas/Texas and Duke who played unranked Virginia and lost.

just today:

#18 Marquette is at #24 Uconn
#1 Auburn, #3 Kentucky, and #15 Villanova are on the road
#14 Wisconsin plays at #17 Michigan State
#13 Illinois visits #3 Purdue

all this adds up to AZ being in a perfect spot as things have broken nicely, not yet perfectly, but nicely.

i think Gonzaga goes undefeated the rest of the way
i think Auburn losses two to three more times
i think Kentucky ends up being a #1 Seed
i think Duke is a lock for a #2
i think Arizona will be the #1 Seed in the South or East Region

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:31 pm
by Olsondogg
Gun to my head, I’d say in a month I see the 1 seeds as:
Zags
Purdont
UK
Kansas

The twos
Houston
Arizona
Dook
Auburn

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:43 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
Auburn has been winning some games pretty close that they should be winning handily, they keep doing that they are going to drop a couple.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:50 pm
by TheCat
Don't see Kansas as a 1. Lots of basketball left.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:51 pm
by UAEebs86
Yeah like Auburn, KU has won a bunch of close games. Let's hope they lose some more.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:54 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Duke as lock #2 seed is ridiculous at this point

They're more likely than not to fall to the 3 line

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:55 pm
by azgreg
This is a much better conversation then we had last year at this time.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:00 pm
by Olsondogg
The ACC is more trashy than the PAC this year and that’s saying something.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:06 pm
by 97cats
RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:54 pm Duke as lock #2 seed is ridiculous at this point

They're more likely than not to fall to the 3 line
ya i know agree but their schedule is super puss the rest of the way and they shouldnt lose again and others will - the losses at home to unranked Miami and then Virginia will keep them off the #1 line.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:10 pm
by Alieberman
Illinois beating Purdue tonight would not only improve our resume- but push us past Purdue.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:13 pm
by 97cats
Alieberman wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:10 pm Illinois beating Purdue tonight would not only improve our resume- but push us past Purdue.
the win at Illinois may be the best non conf road win of the season in the committees eyes outside of perhaps Kentucky at Kansas.

the win in Champagne carries major weight in all of this for Arizona.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:51 pm
by EastCoastCat
And to add we have ZERO bad losses to this point.

Those are killer.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:29 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Auburn loses but is still a clear #1 seed. They have a game lead on Kentucky but have already beaten them the first time.

Auburn is going to have to lose two more games (including vs Kentucky) to drop out of the 1 seed.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:37 pm
by Olsondogg
RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:29 pm Auburn loses but is still a clear #1 seed. They have a game lead on Kentucky but have already beaten them the first time.

Auburn is going to have to lose two more games (including vs Kentucky) to drop out of the 1 seed.
Imo they’ll lose twice more, at least

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:33 pm
by 97cats
RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:29 pm Auburn loses but is still a clear #1 seed.
agree, barely

but more importantly, their profile now next to Arizona's is inferior - neutral floor loss to #22Uconn and road loss at unranked Arkansas.

best wins are #16LSU and #12Kentucky at home and at #24Alabama in early January.

the loss doesnt effect Kentucky at all, but the margin for error to stay on the one line is pretty thin for Auburn.

as an Arizona supporter i loved the unranked loss.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am
by EastCoastCat
I love the unranked losses - especially if they have one at home.

The problem is these teams like Auburn and Purdue have so many more ranked teams on their schedule compared to Arizona. Even if they lose a couple of more games if they are against ranked teams the impact won't be as bad.

F*ck the Pac for always getting out of the gate slow against non-conference, weaker opponents.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:31 am
by Alieberman
Auburn's loss doesn't move them off the 1 line- just brings them closer to the field.

Purdue is solidly on 1 line now.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:51 am
by Olsondogg
Here’s the teams I think can/will win it all:

Gonzaga
Purdue
Kentucky
Arizona

Dook
Kansas



Houston
UCLA


I don’t know who else I’d include. Maybe Baylor

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:12 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
EastCoastCat wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am I love the unranked losses - especially if they have one at home.

The problem is these teams like Auburn and Purdue have so many more ranked teams on their schedule compared to Arizona. Even if they lose a couple of more games if they are against ranked teams the impact won't be as bad.

F*ck the Pac for always getting out of the gate slow against non-conference, weaker opponents.
And especially Oregon for losing to a bunch of cream puffs in the non-con and then figuring it out in conference and dragging us down to their perceived level.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:19 pm
by RondaeShimmy
This is when they'll release the first top 16 NET rankings

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:40 pm
by CatFanOneMil
Olsondogg wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:51 am Here’s the teams I think can/will win it all:

Gonzaga
Purdue
Kentucky
Arizona

Dook
Kansas



Houston
UCLA


I don’t know who else I’d include. Maybe Baylor
Houston lost to SMU tonite 85-83 in my opinion neither team deserved to win...you don't foul a 3 pt attempt with 2.6 left SMU...but also you don't miss the rim and go early on a free throw attempt Houston...

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:27 pm
by TheCat
I saw the replay of that and I thought he clearly fouled him before the shot.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:41 pm
by azcat49
CatFanOneMil wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:40 pm
Olsondogg wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:51 am Here’s the teams I think can/will win it all:

Gonzaga
Purdue
Kentucky
Arizona

Dook
Kansas



Houston
UCLA


I don’t know who else I’d include. Maybe Baylor
Houston lost to SMU tonite 85-83 in my opinion neither team deserved to win...you don't foul a 3 pt attempt with 2.6 left SMU...but also you don't miss the rim and go early on a free throw attempt Houston...
And they did that twice. You would think Sampson would have told them what the rule was after the first time

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:38 pm
by RondaeShimmy
"Arizona and Kentucky are in a virtual tie for fourth #1 seed.."

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:54 pm
by TheCat
Would be nice to have Auburn's path as listed above.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:59 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Going to repost this here, Michigan blows out Purdue
RondaeShimmy wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:47 pm
Michigan not even doing anything special offensively, that's just how absolutely terrible Purdue's defense had been this season
Purdue is absolutely dreadful defensively the whole season and this is what happens when their lights out offense doesn't show up

They're prime upset material

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:11 pm
by Postmaster
I saw they showed a projection with us during game that had us #1 in East

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:20 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
Washington st was 36 in kenpom and 37 in the net.

That was a win that will mean something to the committee.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:21 pm
by TheCat
Lots of games to be played. Seeds are never as important as matchups. Iowa St scored 110 tonight? Guy made ten threes. Pretty special night for a few guys. That is the kind of hot shooting team that can take anyone out of the tourney.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:39 pm
by Olsondogg
No. Iowa state did not play tonight.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:07 am
by U.P. Zona Fan
Iowa scored 110 on Maryland at Maryland

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:19 am
by Olsondogg
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:07 am Iowa scored 110 on Maryland at Maryland
Correct. And to note there is a collective freak out when they mix Arizona and asu.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:18 am
by TheCat
Olsondogg wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:39 pm No. Iowa state did not play tonight.
Sorry meant Iowa.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:23 am
by RondaeShimmy
As far as matchups, if Arizona continues to win vs the easy part of the conference schedule, Arizona is likely to get the #1 seed....

To me Auburn is a bad matchup, hopefully they stay #1 because if they fall into #2 seed they're likely to be Arizona's #2 over Baylor

Btw, Lunardi currently has Duke as the #2 in the west and Kentucky as the #2 in east.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:13 am
by Beachcat97
Guys, can we just pause to acknowledge how wild it is that our main conversation on 2/11 is whether we will be a #1 seed? Don’t wanna lose sight of how incredible the job our players and coaches have done this year has been.

Wasn’t ucla supposed to win the Pac with ease and be in the top 5? Guess not.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:28 pm
by TheCat
I loved CSM. He scrambled and worked his ass off when he couldn't get players in the states. He had his career ended by a hack and reinforced by the one eyed trouser trout and his friends. I think the only reason Vitale is out is because he was sucking Coach K so hard that K has to retire.

That being said, Tommy has taken fundamentally talented players and added his own spin which has made them better. I think his style of play will get top transfers if it takes awhile to cement his recruiting. The one thing that I can guarantee Tommy and Miller share is a low tolerance for the media. He has his press conference lately timed and interrupted when that time is over. He has also called them out on multiple occasions by saying "I just answered that", I'll leave that to you to research" and "your not pulling me into that issue". He does not suffer fools easily witch is very Miller.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:29 pm
by 97cats
TheCat wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:28 pm witch is very Miller.
yes

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:25 pm
by 97cats
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/11/b ... tournament

im not sure whats going on with this update - Kansas lost to Texas three days ago :lol: switch AZ and KU and youre on to somethin.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:09 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
Yeah, not only that, it looks like they have is as the third or 4th 2 seed which is just ludicrous.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:28 pm
by Chicat
Judging by the Q&A he’s got about 73 teams making the tourney so take it with a grain of salt.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:01 am
by Alieberman
Lot of top 25 in action today but most are playing at home so I don't expect many upsets. Games I will keep an eye on (besides AZ):

Ohio St @ Michigan
Texas @ Baylor
UCLA @ USC

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:31 am
by azcat49
Yet somehow game day goes to Auburn for TA&M. They (ESPIN) suck hairy balls. Still makes me so upset they crucified Miller and they are loving on Pearl

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am
by Olsondogg
I think ucla hammers usc

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:46 pm
by Beachcat97
Olsondogg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am I think ucla hammers usc
Better for us if the opposite happens.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:09 pm
by EastCoastCat
Olsondogg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am I think ucla hammers usc
I don’t. I think this game will be a barn burner.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:11 pm
by Alieberman
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:46 pm
Olsondogg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am I think ucla hammers usc
Better for us if the opposite happens.
Don't think it effects us either way

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:13 pm
by IndianaZonaFan
Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:11 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:46 pm
Olsondogg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am I think ucla hammers usc
Better for us if the opposite happens.
Don't think it effects us either way
USC winning gives us a 3 game lead in the PAC

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:23 pm
by dovecanyoncat
IndianaZonaFan wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:13 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:11 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:46 pm
Olsondogg wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:08 am I think ucla hammers usc
Better for us if the opposite happens.
Don't think it effects us either way
USC winning gives us a 3 game lead in the PAC
Regardless of tactical advantage to us it's always easier to root for the Condoms over the Mincey Trollops.

Re: Official Bracketology Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:35 pm
by azgreg
No Isaiah Mobley tonight.