Official Bracketology Thread

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:37 pm

I agree with BC, I want no part of Kaminski. BASH won't be the answer as Gordon tried and he had better lateral quickness and was almost as long. Kaminski will take him low and score at will or roam the perimeter and drill 3's.

I am not nearly as sold on UVA. Yea it would be ugly but I think they are a better version of Utah. We win a slugfest there.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:00 pm

azcat49 wrote:I agree with BC, I want no part of Kaminski. BASH won't be the answer as Gordon tried and he had better lateral quickness and was almost as long. Kaminski will take him low and score at will or roam the perimeter and drill 3's.

I am not nearly as sold on UVA. Yea it would be ugly but I think they are a better version of Utah. We win a slugfest there.

I dunno...Kaminski had a career game and nobody really did outstanding for Arizona last year. Defense was not the issue in the Wisconsin game...offense was. The offense is leaps and bounds better this year...I'm not worried about Wisconsin.

Machina · Post by **Machina** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:46 pm

Jefe wrote:Oh, makes sense

When is McKale going to get some March games again?

Hopefully never for U of A's perspective since U of A can't play there and it would mean further trips for U of A.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:01 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
azcat49 wrote:I agree with BC, I want no part of Kaminski. BASH won't be the answer as Gordon tried and he had better lateral quickness and was almost as long. Kaminski will take him low and score at will or roam the perimeter and drill 3's.

I am not nearly as sold on UVA. Yea it would be ugly but I think they are a better version of Utah. We win a slugfest there.

I dunno...Kaminski had a career game and nobody really did outstanding for Arizona last year. Defense was not the issue in the Wisconsin game...offense was. The offense is leaps and bounds better this year...I'm not worried about Wisconsin.

Yep. Somebody's gonna score for them. If we can't score 55 in regulation, it won't matter...again. This year, though, I feel much better about our offensive composition.

Pop McKale · Post by **Pop McKale** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:04 pm

Machina wrote:
Jefe wrote:Oh, makes sense

When is McKale going to get some March games again?
Hopefully never for U of A's perspective since U of A can't play there and it would mean further trips for U of A.

Come on, bro. May or may not happen, but to hope it doesn't? McKale makes a fantastic venue after all the upgrades. I think Byrne and Miller would be glad to showcase their home. If we're good enough to be seeded in the West region year after year, what does it matter?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:09 pm

Yeah a sub regional game in Tucson means none in Phoenix or Albuquerque or Vegas or probably San Diego or los Angeles. They usually only do 2 maybe 3 sites west of the Mississippi and if it was in Tucson we'd probably be shipped to the east coast. McKale hosted sites 6 times from 1987-2000 but only twice since. In 2005(we went to the only other western site in Boise) and 2011(went to Tulsa).

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:51 am

Really is too bad. I miss the old tournament games here.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:11 pm

Lunardi says Wildcats still need help

2 hours ago • Bruce Pascoe Arizona Daily Star

Even if the Wildcats continue rolling into the NCAA tournament by beating Stanford on Saturday and winning the Pac-12 Tournament next week, ESPN’s Joe Lunardi doesn’t see them leapfrogging any of his current No. 1 NCAA tournament seeds (Kentucky, Duke, Virginia and Villanova) on their own merit.

UA will still need help, he says. But some of that help could come Saturday in Chapel Hill, N.C.

“If four teams that are there don’t lose, they’ll stay put,” Lunardi said today, on an ESPN conference call. “But both Wisconsin and Arizona are right there, and what I’ve been thinking about a lot is what happens if Duke loses at Carolina -- which is probably a 50-50 bet?”

If that were to happen, who would move up? I have Wisconsin fifth, but I mean if you asked me in 10 minutes, it could be Arizona. But Arizona’s losses are a little worse than Wisconsin’s, and one of Wisconsin’s losses came without arguably the best player in the country (the Badgers lost to Rutgers without Frank Kaminsky).”

Not only are the Wildcats and Badgers a close call, Lunardi said, but so are a whole bunch of teams after Kentucky.

“It’s very unusual for there to be this many teams with true No. 1 resumes that aren’t No. 1 seeds,” Lunardi said.

http://tucson.com/sports/blogs/pascoe/u ... 4024a.html

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:12 pm

HiCat wrote:Lunardi says Wildcats still need help

2 hours ago • Bruce Pascoe Arizona Daily Star

Even if the Wildcats continue rolling into the NCAA tournament by beating Stanford on Saturday and winning the Pac-12 Tournament next week, ESPN’s Joe Lunardi doesn’t see them leapfrogging any of his current No. 1 NCAA tournament seeds (Kentucky, Duke, Virginia and Villanova) on their own merit.

UA will still need help, he says. But some of that help could come Saturday in Chapel Hill, N.C.

“If four teams that are there don’t lose, they’ll stay put,” Lunardi said today, on an ESPN conference call. “But both Wisconsin and Arizona are right there, and what I’ve been thinking about a lot is what happens if Duke loses at Carolina -- which is probably a 50-50 bet?”

If that were to happen, who would move up? I have Wisconsin fifth, but I mean if you asked me in 10 minutes, it could be Arizona. But Arizona’s losses are a little worse than Wisconsin’s, and one of Wisconsin’s losses came without arguably the best player in the country (the Badgers lost to Rutgers without Frank Kaminsky).”

Not only are the Wildcats and Badgers a close call, Lunardi said, but so are a whole bunch of teams after Kentucky.

“It’s very unusual for there to be this many teams with true No. 1 resumes that aren’t No. 1 seeds,” Lunardi said.

http://tucson.com/sports/blogs/pascoe/u ... 4024a.html

I just don't see how if we win out, we don't go #1 in the west. We have better wins than Villanova, better metrics, and only 3 to 2 in losses. I really think the comittee seeds as #1 in west with win out.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:21 pm

I think I would rather have a 2 seed to Nova's 1 than to have a 1 seed with Wisky as our 2 or even UVA if they lost.

Just give me Nova in any dynamic

thenewazcats · Post by **thenewazcats** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:13 pm

I hope we get the chance to knock Wisconsin out.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:39 pm

thenewazcats wrote:I hope we get the chance to knock Wisconsin out.

... in Indy.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:42 pm

thenewazcats wrote:I hope we get the chance to knock Kentucky out.

Fixed it.

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:56 pm

I want the chance to beat the best. If we can somehow knock out Wisconsin and Kentucky in the Final Four I will be the happiest man alive. I wouldn't mind a good go at Duke either, we'd probably beat em by 15 with their lazy, sludge for a defense.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:07 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Yeah a sub regional game in Tucson means none in Phoenix or Albuquerque or Vegas or probably San Diego or los Angeles. They usually only do 2 maybe 3 sites west of the Mississippi and if it was in Tucson we'd probably be shipped to the east coast. McKale hosted sites 6 times from 1987-2000 but only twice since. In 2005(we went to the only other western site in Boise) and 2011(went to Tulsa).

There are always two western sites for first round games, so Arizona would go to the other.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:00 pm

Well depends on our seed. If we're a top 3 seed probably.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:30 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Well depends on our seed. If we're a top 3 seed probably.

Top 4 seeds are geographically protected. So if the first round west coast sites are Tucson and Sacramento, and Arizona is a 4 seed or higher, the Cats go to Sac-Town, no matter what region they are in. Geography trumps everything besides conference affiliation. The committee can even bump or drop a team a seed to make sure the top four seeds can all play as close to home as possible.

Personally though I think it's dumb and they should go back to the old way where you played at the locations in your region. For one thing, why shouldn't a city like Cleveland get a chance to see a great team like Arizona or Portland get to see Duke?

thenewazcats · Post by **thenewazcats** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:07 pm

I would rather knock Wisconsin or UK out before they reach the F4. There's consolation when losing in the F4; "At least we made it this far." I hope both teams go home early, hurting, and if we can deliver the blow, even better.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:16 pm

With the way Ashley and Zeus have been playing lately, I'm liking our chances against anyone.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:06 pm

Kentucky looked pretty good. 31-0.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:10 pm

HiCat wrote:Kentucky looked pretty good. 31-0.

UK has been the best team in the nation, clearly. But...if we play our best game, UK would have to match our intensity and execution for 40 minutes. We can beat UK if we can somehow find that transcendent, Bibby/Simon-level in March.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:19 pm

Need Duke to lose tonight and/or Wisky to lose tomorrow.

If the 1 seed line comes down to Cats and Rasheed Sulaimon's wins, will be openly furious but secretly happy as long as Cats get 2 seed in Nova's region.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:29 pm

If UVA wins the ACC tourney they still get a 1 seed.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:31 pm

Chicat wrote:If UVA wins the ACC tourney they still get a 1 seed.

If it's a Duke/VA final the winner gets a 1 and the loser might drop to a 2.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:32 pm

Chicat wrote:If UVA wins the ACC tourney they still get a 1 seed.

Yeah but now nobody can say that UVA is so awesome that a Duke loss to UVA is really a Duke win generally and so they get a 1-seed.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:19 pm

One week from tomorrow is Selection Sunday! It's like Christmas morning when you were a kid.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:32 pm

https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/5 ... 2449042432

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:33 pm

dmjcat wrote:https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/5 ... 2449042432

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:36 pm

azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:If UVA wins the ACC tourney they still get a 1 seed.
If it's a Duke/VA final the winner gets a 1 and the loser might drop to a 2.

I can't see the ACC getting two #1 seeds, not after UVA's loss today.

If AZ wins the Pac tourney,

UK
Nova (assuming they win their conference tourney)
ACC tourney winner
AZ

If AZ does not win the Pac tourney,

UK
Nova
ACC
Wisconsin (assuming they win their conference tourney)

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:44 pm

Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:46 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?

No, but they don't have any bad loses.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:48 pm

azgreg wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?
No, but they don't have any bad loses.

So a bad loss is more significant than a good win?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:54 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?
No, but they don't have any bad loses.
So a bad loss is more significant than a good win?

No, but we have 3 and I believe they have more top 50 RPI wins then we have. They're a good team that I think we can wax.

HibachiZero · Post by **HibachiZero** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:28 pm

I kind of want status quo. I'd much rather be a 2 with nova as a 1, than a 1 with Wiscy as a 2.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:53 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?

Aren't you supposed to be some sort of English teacher? smh...

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:19 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?
Aren't you supposed to be some sort of English teacher? smh...

Ain't nothing wrong with my sentence, bruh. But I don't think this is the grammar forum.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:45 pm

Just keep winning, things will take care of themselves.

Aside from maybe Kentucky, and even then, I'm not sure, there isn't a team in the country looking like us right now.. This team is peaking at the right time. Gminksi commented on it, our bigs playing like this takes this already great team to a whole new level.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:12 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Whom has Nova beaten that they deserve a #1? Have they beaten anyone as good as Gonzaga or Utah?
Aren't you supposed to be some sort of English teacher? smh...
U
Ain't nothing wrong with my sentence, bruh. But I don't think this is the grammar forum.

Heh.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:16 am

luteformayor2 wrote:I want the chance to beat the best. If we can somehow knock out Wisconsin and Kentucky in the Final Four I will be the happiest man alive. I wouldn't mind a good go at Duke either, we'd probably beat em by 15 with their lazy, sludge for a defense.

I tell ya we are gooooood.

Kentucky just seems a little bigger and a litttle deeper at every postion this year.

Just get me to the Final Four! And then we'll discuss.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:57 am

CBCat wrote:
luteformayor2 wrote:I want the chance to beat the best. If we can somehow knock out Wisconsin and Kentucky in the Final Four I will be the happiest man alive. I wouldn't mind a good go at Duke either, we'd probably beat em by 15 with their lazy, sludge for a defense.

I tell ya we are gooooood.

Kentucky just seems a little bigger and a litttle deeper at every postion this year.

Just get me to the Final Four! And then we'll discuss.

Yep, Kentucky is good, and deep. But my guess is that fact might affect their preparation going forward. If Arizona plays as they are now, they can beat anybody.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:47 am

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:23 am

Goodman is in danger of going full Doyel. You never go full Doyel.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:14 am

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:18 am

Irish27 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Is Wisconsin considered the worst 2 seed? Why else would they get stuck in Kentucky's bracket? (Protected seed?)
I think Kansas is the worst of those 2 seeds, either them or the Zags.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:22 am

It's because they value geography more than projecting who might match up in future games. I think the second thing they look at is the balance of the top 4 seeds

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:24 am

azcat49 wrote:It's because they value geography more than projecting who might match up in future games. I think the second thing they look at is the balance of the top 4 seeds

I bet Wisconsin wishes they could get shipped out then!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:26 am

This geography trumps all thing is stupid. Go back to the S curve.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:29 am

I don't get why Kansas just loses and loses but is still considered by some a 2 seed. Remember when we lost 6 regular season games two years ago and we're made a 6 seed?

Machina · Post by **Machina** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:33 am

ASUHATER! wrote:I don't get why Kansas just loses and loses but is still considered by some a 2 seed. Remember when we lost 6 regular season games two years ago and we're made a 6 seed?

Kansas has the #1 SOS. It should go for something. Not that a 2 is right for them

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:37 am

I don't care how good your SOS is if you lose to half or more of those good teams. Gotta beat some of them. Ku is 4 seed in my mind.

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