Sean Miller Discussion

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:51 pm

azcat34 wrote:[quote}12th best offense out of 351 isn't elite to you?

Please explain how the offense isn't elite, I would love to hear your wisdom. You've really just said nothing to this point.

No it really isn't.

If we use your definition of elite that would imply Northern Iowa is an elite team because they are #11 in the AP Top 25 out of 351 teams.

Is Northern Iowa a very good team this year? No doubt. Are they elite. Nope.[/quote]

I could give a shit about the AP poll, most of those guys are lazy morons.

Anyone in the KenPom Top 12 could get hot and win the title in March, for the love of god explain why Arizona's offense isn't good this year. Debating with you is likely debating with my wife, constant subject changing.[/quote]

When did I say they weren't good? You are the one who said they were elite. There is a huge difference between being good and being elite.[/quote]

So when you said this, you were saying Miller's offense was good?

If you really believe Miller coaches a quality offense I literally feel sorry for you as an observer of the game of basketball and really as a human being all together.

Please try harder to understand and appreciate what you are watching. Just because they put up 90 points against UW and WSU doesn't make them a good offensive team.[/quote]

His team is good on offense but that doesn't mean he is a quality offensive coach. Like I said before when you have multiple five stars/NBA draft picks, and a talented senior point guard playing in the Pac-12 it is tough not to be "good" on offense.

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:54 pm

RockyRaccoon wrote:
azcat34 wrote:[quote}12th best offense out of 351 isn't elite to you?

Please explain how the offense isn't elite, I would love to hear your wisdom. You've really just said nothing to this point.
No it really isn't.

If we use your definition of elite that would imply Northern Iowa is an elite team because they are #11 in the AP Top 25 out of 351 teams.

Is Northern Iowa a very good team this year? No doubt. Are they elite. Nope.

I could give a shit about the AP poll, most of those guys are lazy morons.

Anyone in the KenPom Top 12 could get hot and win the title in March, for the love of god explain why Arizona's offense isn't good this year. Debating with you is likely debating with my wife, constant subject changing.[/quote]

When did I say they weren't good? You are the one who said they were elite. There is a huge difference between being good and being elite.[/quote]

So when you said this, you were saying Miller's offense was good?

If you really believe Miller coaches a quality offense I literally feel sorry for you as an observer of the game of basketball and really as a human being all together.

Please try harder to understand and appreciate what you are watching. Just because they put up 90 points against UW and WSU doesn't make them a good offensive team.[/quote]

His team is good on offense but that doesn't mean he is a quality offensive coach. Like I said before when you have multiple five stars/NBA draft picks, and a talented senior point guard playing in the Pac-12 it is tough not to be "good" on offense.[/quote]

So what does Miller have to do to satisfy your delicate sensibilities as a supposed fan of Arizona since evidently the 12th best offense in the country isn't good enough.

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:54 pm

azcat34 wrote:I really like the strong majority of people on this site and formely GOAZCATS, but you infinetly stupid.

Poor grammar and multiple misspelled words.

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:56 pm

azcat34 wrote:
RockyRaccoon wrote:
azcat34 wrote:[quote}12th best offense out of 351 isn't elite to you?

Please explain how the offense isn't elite, I would love to hear your wisdom. You've really just said nothing to this point.
No it really isn't.

If we use your definition of elite that would imply Northern Iowa is an elite team because they are #11 in the AP Top 25 out of 351 teams.

Is Northern Iowa a very good team this year? No doubt. Are they elite. Nope.
I could give a shit about the AP poll, most of those guys are lazy morons.

Anyone in the KenPom Top 12 could get hot and win the title in March, for the love of god explain why Arizona's offense isn't good this year. Debating with you is likely debating with my wife, constant subject changing.

When did I say they weren't good? You are the one who said they were elite. There is a huge difference between being good and being elite.[/quote]

So when you said this, you were saying Miller's offense was good?

If you really believe Miller coaches a quality offense I literally feel sorry for you as an observer of the game of basketball and really as a human being all together.

Please try harder to understand and appreciate what you are watching. Just because they put up 90 points against UW and WSU doesn't make them a good offensive team.[/quote]

His team is good on offense but that doesn't mean he is a quality offensive coach. Like I said before when you have multiple five stars/NBA draft picks, and a talented senior point guard playing in the Pac-12 it is tough not to be "good" on offense.[/quote]

So what does Miller have to do to satisfy your delicate sensibilities as a supposed fan of Arizona since evidently the 12th best offense in the country isn't good enough.[/quote]

I would say the vast majority of my complaints with Miller in terms of offense is his inability to better develop talent.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:58 pm

RockyRaccoon wrote:
azcat34 wrote:I really like the strong majority of people on this site and formely GOAZCATS, but you infinetly stupid.
Poor grammar and multiple miss spelled words.

Can I compete for Miss Spelled Words? I've never entered a spelling bee, but I have a killer one-piece swimsuit and I like people, places, and thiiiiiiiiiings!!!

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:00 pm

I could give a shit about the AP poll, most of those guys are lazy morons.

Anyone in the KenPom Top 12 could get hot and win the title in March, for the love of god explain why Arizona's offense isn't good this year. Debating with you is likely debating with my wife, constant subject changing.[/quote]

When did I say they weren't good? You are the one who said they were elite. There is a huge difference between being good and being elite.[/quote]

So when you said this, you were saying Miller's offense was good?

If you really believe Miller coaches a quality offense I literally feel sorry for you as an observer of the game of basketball and really as a human being all together.

Please try harder to understand and appreciate what you are watching. Just because they put up 90 points against UW and WSU doesn't make them a good offensive team.[/quote]

His team is good on offense but that doesn't mean he is a quality offensive coach. Like I said before when you have multiple five stars/NBA draft picks, and a talented senior point guard playing in the Pac-12 it is tough not to be "good" on offense.[/quote]

So what does Miller have to do to satisfy your delicate sensibilities as a supposed fan of Arizona since evidently the 12th best offense in the country isn't good enough.[/quote]

I would say the vast majority of my complaints with Miller in terms of offense is his inability to better develop talent.[/quote]

Oh yea? Is that why the Magic drafted AG 4th overall? Or why the Pacers drafted Solo in the 1st round when no one predicated that? Or when the Rockets drafted NJ when people thought he would go undrafted?

Please tell us how Miller with his 12th best offense and multiple NBA players that went higher than expected has led to him not being able to develop talent.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:01 pm

When you go spelling Nazi and misspell misspelled, I think the thread is over.

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:02 pm

Longhorned wrote:
RockyRaccoon wrote:
azcat34 wrote:I really like the strong majority of people on this site and formely GOAZCATS, but you infinetly stupid.
Poor grammar and multiple miss spelled words.
Can I compete for Miss Spelled Words? I've never entered a spelling bee, but I have a killer one-piece swimsuit and I like people, places, and thiiiiiiiiiings!!!

fixed

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:09 pm

azcat34 wrote:
Oh yea? Is that why the Magic drafted AG 4th overall? Or why the Pacers drafted Solo in the 1st round when no one predicated that? Or when the Rockets drafted NJ when people thought he would go undrafted?

Please tell us how Miller with his 12th best offense and multiple NBA players that went higher than expected has led to him not being able to develop talent.

AG was predicted as a top five pick back in high school. Nick Johnson was a five star. I will give him credit on Solomon, he did a great job with him. Derrick Williams has been pretty horrible in the NBA.

Zeus, BA, Hollis-Jefferson, Josiah Turner (disaster), Jordin Mayes, Parrom, and Kyryl have been or were pretty damn stagnant in their offensive progression under Miller.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:11 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:When you go spelling Nazi and misspell misspelled, I think the thread is over.

I just can't believe that we actually manipulated a troll to do the dirty work and destroy an awful thread that we couldn't take out on our own.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:15 pm

azcat34 wrote:
RockyRaccoon wrote:
azcat34 wrote:
RockyRaccoon wrote:Bennet is a better coach than Miller. The guy took what was one of the worst programs in the country in Washington State and led them to two NCAA Tournaments and a Sweet Sixteen when the Pac-10 actually had talent. These past two years he has dominated one of the toughest conferences in the country. Miller's career record is (270-98) a 74% win percentage and Bennett's is (198-94) a 68%. That being said Miller of course coached five season's in the A-10 and nearly six in a down Pac-12. I'm not knocking Miller who like I continually say is a "very good coach" but Bennett is a great coach.

Marshall is similar to Miller in my opinion in that he is an excellent defensive mind but unlike Miller can actually draw up an offense. Wichita State was a basket away from the National Championship in 2013 before the eventual champ Louisville made some plays late in that game. Don't forget, Wichita beat Ohio State in the Elite Eight, of course that was the same Ohio State team that knocked Arizona out in the Sweet Sixteen.

You're right about calculating age when determining a coach's "ceiling". I guess who I was listing were just coaches I feel are better than Miller in measuring a single season.

That being said, Bennett, Smart, Ollie, Cal, Donovan, and Marshall have higher "ceilings".

Self sucks. Williams sucks.
Arizona's AdjO is 12th right now, but keep being ignorant.

Miller has gone to the second weekend of the tournament more times the past two seasons than Marshall has in his whole 16 year career.
If you really believe Miller coaches a quality offense I literally feel sorry for you as an observer of the game of basketball and really as a human being all together.

Please try harder to understand and appreciate what you are watching. Just because they put up 90 points against UW and WSU doesn't make them a good offensive team.
I have brought you statistical data that Miller's offense this year is not only good, but elite.

What is your intelligent argument against? You literally provide no detail, Ken Pomeroy has more basketball knowledge in his morning dumps than you do overall. I will trust his analysis over yours.

He does not have intelligent arguments. Intellectual arrogance is universally annoying; when it comes from someone whose inflated self-esteem far exceeds their capacity (which is usually the result of modern Mommy talk) it is insufferable.

The ignore feature... #GettingUsed

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:19 pm

Damn, I guess I did say the team "isn't good" on offense at some point. I can assure you that was hyperbole but to call them elite offensively is almost as preposterous.

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:52 am

RockyRaccoon wrote:Damn, I guess I did say the team "isn't good" on offense at some point. I can assure you that was hyperbole but to call them elite offensively is almost as preposterous.

At this point I have no clue what you are arguing at this point and anyone that uses Derrick Williams as a case against Miller's player development skills is clearly trolling.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:32 am

Harvey Specter wrote: The ignore feature... #GettingUsed

I've looked everywhere! SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE THIS IDIOT BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON AND I HATE HIS POSTS EVEN MORE THAN HIS AVATAR OF KANYE

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:39 am

dcZONAfan wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote: The ignore feature... #GettingUsed
I've looked everywhere! SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE THIS IDIOT BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON AND I HATE HIS POSTS EVEN MORE THAN HIS AVATAR OF KANYE

Put him on your "Foe" list.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:45 am

RockyRaccoon wrote:
Reydituto wrote:What's up fellas? What's going on here? Have I missed anything?

This post was made by RockyRaccoon who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.
I think Sean Miller's ceiling is very high. I can't imagine anyone else who understands college basketball would disagree with that sentiment.

This post was made by RockyRaccoon who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.
Hmmm, I guess not much is going on in this thread, so back to Cervantes ...
It is high but very high?

I definitely think his ceiling is getting to a few final fours. That's pretty good.

Like I have said before, there is a HUUUUUUUGE difference between winning a national championship and getting to the final four.

So, basically, Lute's ceiling in 1996, a dozen years into his Arizona tenure.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:54 am

gumby wrote:
RockyRaccoon wrote:It is high but very high?

I definitely think his ceiling is getting to a few final fours. That's pretty good.

Like I have said before, there is a HUUUUUUUGE difference between winning a national championship and getting to the final four.
So, basically, Lute's ceiling in 1996, a dozen years into his Arizona tenure.

Rocky is already on record calling Lute one of the most overrated coaches in history, so your comparison likely won't get the response you're looking for.

He's so trollrific...

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:30 am

I'm resolved--I really do want RockyRaccoon to shampoo my crotch.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:02 am

Who was RR on TOS?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:05 am

Chicat wrote:
gumby wrote:
RockyRaccoon wrote:It is high but very high?

I definitely think his ceiling is getting to a few final fours. That's pretty good.

Like I have said before, there is a HUUUUUUUGE difference between winning a national championship and getting to the final four.
So, basically, Lute's ceiling in 1996, a dozen years into his Arizona tenure.
Rocky is already on record calling Lute one of the most overrated coaches in history, so your comparison likely won't get the response you're looking for.

He's so trollrific...

I knew I should've watched those games more closely.

P.S. That "foe" feature is literally the bomb.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:10 am

dcZONAfan wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote: The ignore feature... #GettingUsed
I've looked everywhere! SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE THIS IDIOT BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON AND I HATE HIS POSTS EVEN MORE THAN HIS AVATAR OF KANYE

go to user control panel from the main menu on top of the page

go to the "friends and foes" tab on the page that comes up.

go to "manage foes" on the left

in the box on the right, enter the name, click submit.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:31 am

CalStateTempe wrote:Who was RR on TOS?

Same handle. Ragged on Zeus almost as much as enfuego.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:18 am

dcZONAfan wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote: The ignore feature... #GettingUsed
I've looked everywhere! SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE THIS IDIOT BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON AND I HATE HIS POSTS EVEN MORE THAN HIS AVATAR OF KANYE

This^
He's gotten to the point where he is kind of ruining this board. Sick of scrolling thru his one page manifesto's

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:20 am

Make him a "foe".

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:20 am

Done. RR now on my ignore.
Please try not to quote this guy.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:59 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote: The ignore feature... #GettingUsed
I've looked everywhere! SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE THIS IDIOT BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON AND I HATE HIS POSTS EVEN MORE THAN HIS AVATAR OF KANYE
go to user control panel from the main menu on top of the page

go to the "friends and foes" tab on the page that comes up.

go to "manage foes" on the left

in the box on the right, enter the name, click submit.

Did you ever know that you're my heeeeeeeeeeerooooooo?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:03 pm

Foe! Foe! Foe!

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:21 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:This is a bad loss. Worse than the other two this season, imo.

Time and time again, Sean Miller's teams lose when they should be winning comfortably.

There are going to be all kinds of patient, quixotic responses to this post and this game, and that's fine. I suppose it's part of being a fan. But let's face it: this is the second straight season with a legit top 5 team and they're fading down the stretch. Again.

The conversation has changed from, how many more games will we lose before the tourney, to will we even win the Pac 12?

The longer Miller's at AZ, the more I appreciate Lute Olson.

Miller's ceiling is the Elite Eight and an occasional Pac title, which aren't insignificant achievements, but I think our expectations are higher, aren't they?

Ceiling: Mike Kryzyzewski.

Floor: Jim Boeheim.

Cellar: Dale Brown.

If Miller stays for a while and keeps the fire, he can leave as the best coach in Arizona's history. I am aware that's borderline heresy.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:14 am

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:38 am

dcZONAfan wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote: The ignore feature... #GettingUsed
I've looked everywhere! SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO IGNORE THIS IDIOT BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND THE BUTTON AND I HATE HIS POSTS EVEN MORE THAN HIS AVATAR OF KANYE
go to user control panel from the main menu on top of the page

go to the "friends and foes" tab on the page that comes up.

go to "manage foes" on the left

in the box on the right, enter the name, click submit.
Did you ever know that you're my heeeeeeeeeeerooooooo?

glad to help

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:15 am

97, you gotta start letting us know (do we have spoiler tags here?) what these 100-0 and 51-1 numbers mean.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:27 am

rgdeuce wrote:97, you gotta start letting us know (do we have spoiler tags here?) what these 100-0 and 51-1 numbers mean.

I'm not sure if 51 is the right #, but 1 would be the number of home losses in the last 3 years.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:33 am

IIRC, 51-1 is Miller's record when we score 80 or more points.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:37 am

AZCatGirl wrote:IIRC, 51-1 is Miller's record when we score 80 or more points.

It's a measure of Miller that he has multiple stats that involve only a single loss over multiple years.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:42 am

AZCatGirl wrote:IIRC, 51-1 is Miller's record when we score 80 or more points.

correct

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:43 am

rgdeuce wrote:97, you gotta start letting us know (do we have spoiler tags here?) what these 100-0 and 51-1 numbers mean.

100-0 is me being an A-hole in the prediction thread(s) -- just ignore that

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:51 am

97cats wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:97, you gotta start letting us know (do we have spoiler tags here?) what these 100-0 and 51-1 numbers mean.
100-0 is me being an A-hole in the prediction thread(s) -- just ignore that

1 of these days, that prediction will come true.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:04 pm

as John Oliver would say in regards to this thread....How is this still a thing?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:14 pm

97cats wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:IIRC, 51-1 is Miller's record when we score 80 or more points.
correct

I counted, and I think I missed a loss, so we are only 50-2 at home in the last three years. As with all stats, the caveat is I suck at math. If I'm right, ONLY 50-2 at home, geez, I don't know about this Miller guy...

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:46 pm

as far as I can tell we've only lost 5 games in the last 5 seasons at McKale.

SDSU in 2011 by 4
Oregon in 2012 by 2
UW in 2012 by 2
UCLA in 2013 by 11
Cal in 2013 by 8

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:54 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:as far as I can tell we've only lost 5 games in the last 5 seasons at McKale.

SDSU in 2011 by 4
Oregon in 2012 by 2
UW in 2012 by 2
UCLA in 2013 by 11
Cal in 2013 by 8

Lute will always be special and different because he built this program into a national power. Sean Miller will likely retire with a better resume if he stays long enough (and fulfills his potential). That's extraordinary.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:16 pm

97cats wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:97, you gotta start letting us know (do we have spoiler tags here?) what these 100-0 and 51-1 numbers mean.
100-0 is me being an A-hole in the prediction thread(s) -- just ignore that

Now you tell me. Lost thousands betting on this prediction.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:07 pm

97cats wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:97, you gotta start letting us know (do we have spoiler tags here?) what these 100-0 and 51-1 numbers mean.
100-0 is me being an A-hole in the prediction thread(s) -- just ignore that

It's also the score on the scoreboard during the BrakeMax commercials. Wildcats 100 Visitors 0
They must be big 97cats fans!

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:43 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
97cats wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:IIRC, 51-1 is Miller's record when we score 80 or more points.
correct
I counted, and I think I missed a loss, so we are only 50-2 at home in the last three years. As with all stats, the caveat is I suck at math. If I'm right, ONLY 50-2 at home, geez, I don't know about this Miller guy...

Meh, Matt Muehlebach never lost at home.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:47 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:as far as I can tell we've only lost 5 games in the last 5 seasons at McKale.

SDSU in 2011 by 4
Oregon in 2012 by 2
UW in 2012 by 2
UCLA in 2013 by 11
Cal in 2013 by 8
Lute will always be special and different because he built this program into a national power. Sean Miller will likely retire with a better resume if he stays long enough (and fulfills his potential). That's extraordinary.

don't forget the bucknell NIT loss 3 years ago.

but if we beat ucla cal and stanford then we'll have been 80-6 at home the last 5 years with the 6 losses by an average of 6.3 points.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:52 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:as far as I can tell we've only lost 5 games in the last 5 seasons at McKale.

SDSU in 2011 by 4
Oregon in 2012 by 2
UW in 2012 by 2
UCLA in 2013 by 11
Cal in 2013 by 8
Lute will always be special and different because he built this program into a national power. Sean Miller will likely retire with a better resume if he stays long enough (and fulfills his potential). That's extraordinary.
don't forget the bucknell NIT loss 3 years ago.

but if we beat ucla cal and stanford then we'll have been 80-6 at home the last 5 years with the 6 losses by an average of 6.3 points.

I was counting this year as year 3, so I was looking only at the sweet 16, elite 8 and this year. I think he is 50-2 in those years. I prefer not to remember the Bucknell year.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:07 pm

87-11 in 6 seasons. FIRE MILLER!!!!

Lute had a .758 winning percentage at Arizona.

Miller only is at .749.

FIRE MILLER!!

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:12 pm

I'm sure Rocky will be here after the Utah if we lose talking about how shitty Miller is.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:55 pm

I've heard that Miller has one of those popcorn ceilings. It's shameful...

RockyRaccoon · Post by **RockyRaccoon** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:22 pm

azcat34 wrote:I'm sure Rocky will be here after the Utah if we lose talking about how shitty Miller is.

lol

Miller isn't shitty though.

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