Bear Down Wildcats

azgreg wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:Medcalf from ESPN just said no Pac teams are getting to the S-16.

OK, I just saw his piece. What a dipshit.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketba ... st-weekend" target="_blank

1. National title? North Carolina won't even make the Sweet 16
2. Three Final Four teams will come from the Big 12
3. Big Ten champ Indiana will lose to Chattanooga in the first round
4. Kentucky will lose to Stony Brook in the first round, too
5. Oregon will lose to Saint Joseph's in the second round
6. No Sweet 16 squads from the Pac-12
7. Northern Iowa messes with Texas and Texas A&M on the way to the Sweet 16
8. Kansas will win every game by double digits on the way to the national championship
9. Temple will win the all-Philly match up against Nova
10. South Dakota State over Maryland in the first round

Hate myself for reading that shit, but it's funny that he says PAC has too hard of a road, and that Cal has to face Maryland, but then later Maryland won't make it out of first round.

It's amazing that some people have the jobs they have...

Olsondogg wrote:Well I got what I wanted. Let's do this:

Olsondogg wrote:Stay healthy...that's all I want. Give me a 6 seed, and play on...

84Cat wrote:I didn't know enfuego worked for espn

Haha, good one. That list does look exactly like something fuegs would spew out his ass.

Not sure about ya'll, but I sorta think UNC can win the whole thing. Hasn't anyone been paying attention to them the past few weeks?

Someone needs to keep Beachcat in his thread and not let him out.

Beachcat97 wrote:Not sure about ya'll, but I sorta think UNC can win the whole thing. Hasn't anyone been paying attention to them the past few weeks?

Yes, they can. They had some shakiness early, but they have a ton of talent and depth and have been converting that into results lately. Paige has been surprisingly pedestrian this year. If he can play like he did in previous years during the tourney, they're a FF team.

Not sure but I think ________ could win it all...

Olsondogg wrote:Not sure but I think ________ could win it all...

Bold.

Take it for what it's worth, but a prominent player on Vandy is a family friend. Texted that they'd beat Wichita State...

Also, it's a player that got a quick offer when Mr. Pit stop went "pro"...

azgreg wrote:Record of the 6th seed in the tourney.

http://mcubed.net/ncaab/seeds.shtml" target="_blank

Overall tournament record of #6 seeds: (176-146) 54.7%
vs. #1 (5-10) 33.3%
vs. #2 (10-26) 27.8%
vs. #3 (38-46) 45.2%
vs. #4 (4-2) 66.7%
vs. #5 (0-1) 0.0%
vs. #6 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #7 (4-3) 57.1%
vs. #8 (1-3) 25.0%
vs. #9 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #10 (6-4) 60.0%
vs. #11 (95-49) 66.0%
vs. #12 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #13 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #14 (13-2) 86.7%
vs. #15 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #16 (0-0) 0.0%

thanks @azgreg for sharing that link -- pretty cool website.

i also a factoid flash briefly on the screen last during one of the analysis shows... something about how the 12-over-5 upset causes ppl to overlook 11-over-6 upsets, which occurred in x% (54%?) of matchups over the past y years. [EDIT: oops, i saw that @az49 already posted it... 6vs11 are 6-6 over the last 12 years]

also, here are the kenpom predicts, if anyone cares: http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog ... ament_log5" target="_blank

scroll all the way down for the consolidated odds. the kenpom #s deviate a little bit from 538's but it's sorta interesting that our bottom-of-bracket neighbors iowa (#7) have a better chance at making the FF than we do mathematically. and check out the probability margin between miami (#3S) and texas (#6W) in both the kenpom and 538 predictions.

Beachcat97 wrote:Not sure about ya'll, but I sorta think UNC can win the whole thing. Hasn't anyone been paying attention to them the past few weeks?

No way...I was watching this incarnation develop when in Durham, too much of a head case of a team.

Kevin O'Neill on Phx radio picked Oregon to cut down the nets.

azgreg wrote:Kevin O'Neill on Phx radio picked Oregon to cut down the nets.

He's trolling good.

John Rothstein called AZ the best 6 seed in the history of the tournament and said the winner of Miami/AZ can punch their ticket to the FF. Then he picks KU over Miami.

As Angel Rodriguez goes, so does Miami.

CalStateTempe wrote:

azgreg wrote:Kevin O'Neill on Phx radio picked Oregon to cut down the nets.

He's trolling good.

also, drunk as usual.

Wosn wrote:John Rothstein called AZ the best 6 seed in the history of the tournament and said the winner of Miami/AZ can punch their ticket to the FF. Then he picks KU over Miami.

im of the opinion that if Arizona wins their first round game the CATS and Sean Miller will once again lose in the ELITE 8 -- this time to Kansas.

dirtbags wrote:

azgreg wrote:Record of the 6th seed in the tourney.

http://mcubed.net/ncaab/seeds.shtml" target="_blank

Overall tournament record of #6 seeds: (176-146) 54.7%
vs. #1 (5-10) 33.3%
vs. #2 (10-26) 27.8%
vs. #3 (38-46) 45.2%
vs. #4 (4-2) 66.7%
vs. #5 (0-1) 0.0%
vs. #6 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #7 (4-3) 57.1%
vs. #8 (1-3) 25.0%
vs. #9 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #10 (6-4) 60.0%
vs. #11 (95-49) 66.0%
vs. #12 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #13 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #14 (13-2) 86.7%
vs. #15 (0-0) 0.0%
vs. #16 (0-0) 0.0%

thanks @azgreg for sharing that link -- pretty cool website.

i also a factoid flash briefly on the screen last during one of the analysis shows... something about how the 12-over-5 upset causes ppl to overlook 11-over-6 upsets, which occurred in x% (54%?) of matchups over the past y years. [EDIT: oops, i saw that @az49 already posted it... 6vs11 are 6-6 over the last 12 years]

also, here are the kenpom predicts, if anyone cares: http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog ... ament_log5" target="_blank

scroll all the way down for the consolidated odds. the kenpom #s deviate a little bit from 538's but it's sorta interesting that our bottom-of-bracket neighbors iowa (#7) have a better chance at making the FF than we do mathematically. and check out the probability margin between miami (#3S) and texas (#6W) in both the kenpom and 538 predictions.

This where the numbers lie a bit. Iowa tanked weeks ago. It is difficult to imagine them in the Sweet 16 let alone the Final Four.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mak ... -no-sense/" target="_blank

Nate Silver has Arizona as the third best team in the south.

very interesting read.

How Monmouth got screwed:

#NeverMonmouth?
With the bubble as weak as ever, the selection committee’s exclusion of the Hawks says everything about mid-majors.


https://thecauldron.si.com/nevermonmout ... .h4clnbrlu

97cats wrote:

Wosn wrote:John Rothstein called AZ the best 6 seed in the history of the tournament and said the winner of Miami/AZ can punch their ticket to the FF. Then he picks KU over Miami.

im of the opinion that if Arizona wins their first round game the CATS and Sean Miller will once again lose in the ELITE 8 -- this time to Kansas.

So what you are saying is that this team is just like the '97 team?

no, more like '11, '14, & '15 but it's the reason I like the draw. Sean Miller is 12-0 as a six seed or better in the first two rounds and NOVA is very beatable if they even make it to the second weekend.

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97cats wrote:no, more like '11, '14, & '15 but it's the reason I like the draw. Sean Miller is 12-0 as a six seed or better in the first two rounds and NOVA is very beatable if they even make it to the second weekend.

I would be like a kid on Christmas morning if AZ got to face Villanova for the right to go to the elite eight.

97cats wrote:no, more like '11, '14, & '15 but it's the reason I like the draw. Sean Miller is 12-0 as a six seed or better in the first two rounds and NOVA is very beatable if they even make it to the second weekend.

podcast again this year?

well i'll be dam

SI Prediction: Beat Wichita State in the first round; beat Miami in the second round; beat Villanova in the Sweet 16, lose to Kansas in the Elite 8.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... tournament

97cats wrote:well i'll be dam

SI Prediction: Beat Wichita State in the first round; beat Miami in the second round; beat Villanova in the Sweet 16, lose to Kansas in the Elite 8.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... tournament

50% of the time, it works every time.

UAEebs86 wrote:

God. Part of me feels bad for this kid and Cal. I was really high on Cal going into this tournament and would have had them going far had they not drawn Kansas IN LOUISVILLE, in the sweet 16.

rgdeuce wrote:

UAEebs86 wrote:

God. Part of me feels bad for this kid and Cal. I was really high on Cal going into this tournament and would have had them going far had they not drawn Kansas IN LOUISVILLE, in the sweet 16.

Wallace has had a rough year. I don't know much about him, but certainly he doesn't seem like the type of kid who deserves anything close to the injury riddled year he's had.

Talk about your all-time worst start to a tournament. I wonder if Cuonzo will even be on the bench at all with the other stuff that is going down.

I don't have Premium...what's the deal with Brown and Rabb?

Besides their coach being in a whole lot of hot water and possibly not being on the bench w them for the tournament?

Why?

One of Cal's coaches is being investigated for sexual assault

I heard one of the Cal assistant coaches may get fired for sexually harrassing a reporter...but what does that have to do with Brown and Rabb? He recruit them?

Well done committee, well done.

Pac 12 repping well this tournament lmao. Tough seeding/luck or was this conference not as good as we thought it was?

rgdeuce wrote:Pac 12 repping well this tournament lmao. Tough seeding/luck or was this conference not as good as we thought it was?

Little bit of both. Cal should beat HI, but they got bad luck. Providence and Wichita State were better than their seeds indicate. The Pac was probably deeper with decent teams than it was strong on the top end, though. The OSUs and Colorados were legit tourney teams but no one should be surprised at close first round losses.

90 minute selection Sunday show

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men ... division-i" target="_blank

Hopefully it's leaked again so I don't have to watch

What time does it start? PST?

CalStateTempe wrote:What time does it start? PST?

According to the link 5:30ET, so 2:30

I know everyone here, myself included, would have their souls ripped out if Oregon got to a final four before Miller, but I genuinely feel bad for Boucher and Oregon. They are a special team this year and I would have liked to see both of us get to the final four this year.

Nobody gets to eat until Sean gets his FF, but I could still see Oregon making a run

rgdeuce wrote:I know everyone here, myself included, would have their souls ripped out if Oregon got to a final four before Miller, but I genuinely feel bad for Boucher and Oregon. They are a special team this year and I would have liked to see both of us get to the final four this year.

I don't hate Oregon. Altman is a good coach and I've always liked having the Pac have strong teams. It's why we're a strong 2 seed after the Pac tourney.

I always feel bad for teams that get that bad break. Kenyon Martin at Cincy was the worst situation I can remember.

Arizona will be a two seed in the Midwest. Take that to the bank.

Who would be the two in the west?

What about a credit union?

How about the checking cashing place?

What about a Circle K money order?