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Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:35 pm
by SCCats
A triple double with shimmies? Nice!

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:36 pm
by Alieberman
Counts as a triple double

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:01 pm
by catgrad97
Leads the tournament in spg average.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:16 am
by threenumberones
Great chance for Rondae to move up draft boards. Clamping down on an elite NBA prospect at his position in a game like this would speak volumes for his value in the league. Get it done Rondae!

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:26 am
by Spaceman Spiff
threenumberones wrote:Great chance for Rondae to move up draft boards. Clamping down on an elite NBA prospect at his position in a game like this would speak volumes for his value in the league. Get it done Rondae!
Yep. He does the job, he can get to late lottery, IMO.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:35 am
by TucsonClip
Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:34 pm
by Jefe
He wants that ball

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Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:44 pm
by rgdeuce
Wish I could figure out how to upload a video (it is saved as a MOV file and this website wont allow it), I have a cute video of my 3-year-old doing the Rondae shimmy.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:48 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
TucsonClip wrote:Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.
That's why I think he can hit late lottery. Lock down Russell and he moves into the 10-15 range in my opinion. I mean, he'll never be the type of defender GP2 from Oregon State is, but he can still be decent.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:51 pm
by Bosy Billups
One matchup will decide your entire future? Calm down fellas

With the 12th pick in this year's NBA draft: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:07 pm
by Merkin
rgdeuce wrote:Wish I could figure out how to upload a video (it is saved as a MOV file and this website wont allow it), I have a cute video of my 3-year-old doing the Rondae shimmy.

Upload to youtube, then post on here the embed code.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:09 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Bosy Billups wrote:One matchup will decide your entire future? Calm down fellas

With the 12th pick in this year's NBA draft: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Truth. Shut down Russell and Rondae will be an NBA All-Star. Russell goes off, Rondae has to spend the rest of his life in the hole prison from The Dark Knight Rises.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:49 pm
by Harvey Specter
TucsonClip wrote:Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.
Tyrus Thomas disagrees...

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:46 pm
by TucsonClip
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.
That's why I think he can hit late lottery. Lock down Russell and he moves into the 10-15 range in my opinion. I mean, he'll never be the type of defender GP2 from Oregon State is, but he can still be decent.
Sarcasm?

I think everyone knows what kind of defender he is already. I think he rises regardless of what he does in the tournament, because I think hes too low on most projections.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:49 pm
by TucsonClip
Harvey Specter wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.
Tyrus Thomas disagrees...
How'd that work out? Good scouts know one matchup does not make, nor break, a prospects ceiling. Putting too much stock into tournament play is a big no-no. Let the body of work speak for itself and then hope for great individual matchpus in the tournament, because you wont get them during private workouts.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:17 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
TucsonClip wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.
That's why I think he can hit late lottery. Lock down Russell and he moves into the 10-15 range in my opinion. I mean, he'll never be the type of defender GP2 from Oregon State is, but he can still be decent.
Sarcasm?

I think everyone knows what kind of defender he is already. I think he rises regardless of what he does in the tournament, because I think hes too low on most projections.
Yes, sarcasm.

Getting to see him face off against a top level player is an unusual opportunity. Fair or not, those showcase games do play some role.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:22 pm
by azgreg

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:38 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
azgreg wrote:
He must be a Keith Sweat fan.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:00 pm
by rgdeuce

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:14 pm
by Harvey Specter
TucsonClip wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Ive had him ranked in the 15-20 range. Dont put too much stock in tournament games. Regardless, this is a matchup every scout will be watching.
Tyrus Thomas disagrees...
How'd that work out? Good scouts know one matchup does not make, nor break, a prospects ceiling. Putting too much stock into tournament play is a big no-no. Let the body of work speak for itself and then hope for great individual matchpus in the tournament, because you wont get them during private workouts.
What should be does not equate to what is. The degree to which a tournament run can influence a BB players draft status is somewhat foolish, but real. At least it is not as ridiculous as the degree to which NFL combine results impact CFB player draft status. Chris Henry was drafted before Ka'deem.

Pervis Ellison was the first one I remember, there have been plenty since.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:16 pm
by Harvey Specter
rgdeuce wrote:
And a southpaw to boot! Good stuff...

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:19 pm
by 3goggles
azgreg wrote:
When will people learn not to give this bulletin board material. Especially RHJ!!!

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:06 pm
by 84Cat
Tomorrow should be fun

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:55 pm
by 3goggles
84Cat wrote:Tomorrow should be fun
God I hope RHJ locks him down!!!

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:58 pm
by EVCat
Excellent player, million dollar contract awaiting, 10-cent head rattling in that brain. At least the part that counts for common sense...

What has he done this year that is so special? All accolades are personal statistic achievements, because God knows his team ain't done shit. Get into him, Rondae. Deep. Ewok style. Make him feel his words...

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:51 am
by CalStateTempe
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Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:36 am
by HiCat
3goggles wrote:
84Cat wrote:Tomorrow should be fun
God I hope RHJ locks him down!!!

Yep, but he's needs to stay out of foul trouble in the first half.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:40 am
by gumby
Yes. Rather have a Russell hit the first couple (a la Young) than getting two quick fouls. Need him unencumbered in the second half for the wear down

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:37 am
by The Butcher
Well then. Meet My Name is Nobody.

I fully expect Rondae to channel Terrence Hill and put an epic bitch slap on that kid.


My Name is Nobody Bar Fight Scene - The Slap Down

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:35 pm
by azgreg
Looks like Russell will need a jersey with a different number on it.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:14 pm
by AZCatGirl
:lol:

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:43 pm
by azcat49
#Theshimreaper

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:55 pm
by gumby
http://thebiglead.com/2015/03/21/dangel ... ng-clinic/

How did Ashley know this pass was coming?

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:58 pm
by azgreg
gumby wrote:http://thebiglead.com/2015/03/21/dangel ... ng-clinic/

How did Ashley know this pass was coming?
Always expect the ball.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:38 pm
by Merkin
Draft Express analyzes RHJ covering Russell:



Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:43 pm
by Olsondogg
Thanks for that Merk, but they failed to mention the excellent D that Nobody played on him.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:47 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Olsondogg wrote:Thanks for that Merk, but they failed to mention the excellent D that Nobody played on him.
Maybe TJ is nobody. He also got a piece of Russell, especially in the second half.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:58 pm
by gumby
Rewatched the game. Rondae made several clutch plays at a time when OSU looked to be in control. During the end-of-half run, he had a steal and three assists. Turned a six-point deficit into a 26-25 halftime lead.

Then he came right out with rebounds and assists during the first five minutes of the second half, where we score 15 in the first five minutes. All the while, Reggie Miller is saying, "I would put Rondae on the baseline and Ashley in the middle of the zone."

As if Rondae weren't already disrupting the zone and setting up easy buckets.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:59 pm
by Olsondogg
gumby wrote:Rewatched the game. Rondae made several clutch plays at a time when OSU looked to be in control. During the end-of-half run, he had a steal and three assists. Turned a six-point deficit into a 26-25 halftime lead.

Then he came right out with rebounds and assists during the first five minutes of the second half, where we score 15 in the first five minutes. All the while, Reggie Miller is saying, "I would put Rondae on the baseline and Ashley in the middle of the zone."

As if Rondae weren't already disrupting the zone and setting up easy buckets.
I neglected to add Reggie Miller to my list...

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:34 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
gumby wrote:Rewatched the game. Rondae made several clutch plays at a time when OSU looked to be in control. During the end-of-half run, he had a steal and three assists. Turned a six-point deficit into a 26-25 halftime lead.

Then he came right out with rebounds and assists during the first five minutes of the second half, where we score 15 in the first five minutes. All the while, Reggie Miller is saying, "I would put Rondae on the baseline and Ashley in the middle of the zone."

As if Rondae weren't already disrupting the zone and setting up easy buckets.
For Rondae and Stanley being off shooting the ball, they both contributed in other ways. Rondae had a great defensive game, hit the boards and manufactured his points at the line. SJ was strong on the glass and although he didn't have to shoulder the defensive load Rondae did, he was solid there too.

SJ and Rondae have off shooting games, but I don't know a pair of wings that come close to matching them in terms of stuffing the stat sheet.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:17 pm
by WildcatStunner
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:Rewatched the game. Rondae made several clutch plays at a time when OSU looked to be in control. During the end-of-half run, he had a steal and three assists. Turned a six-point deficit into a 26-25 halftime lead.

Then he came right out with rebounds and assists during the first five minutes of the second half, where we score 15 in the first five minutes. All the while, Reggie Miller is saying, "I would put Rondae on the baseline and Ashley in the middle of the zone."

As if Rondae weren't already disrupting the zone and setting up easy buckets.
For Rondae and Stanley being off shooting the ball, they both contributed in other ways. Rondae had a great defensive game, hit the boards and manufactured his points at the line. SJ was strong on the glass and although he didn't have to shoulder the defensive load Rondae did, he was solid there too.

SJ and Rondae have off shooting games, but I don't know a pair of wings that come close to matching them in terms of stuffing the stat sheet.
You have to be a two way player to get minutes in Miller's system.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:57 am
by Puerco
Olsondogg wrote:
gumby wrote:Rewatched the game. Rondae made several clutch plays at a time when OSU looked to be in control. During the end-of-half run, he had a steal and three assists. Turned a six-point deficit into a 26-25 halftime lead.

Then he came right out with rebounds and assists during the first five minutes of the second half, where we score 15 in the first five minutes. All the while, Reggie Miller is saying, "I would put Rondae on the baseline and Ashley in the middle of the zone."

As if Rondae weren't already disrupting the zone and setting up easy buckets.
I neglected to add Reggie Miller to my list...
I thought Reggie did alright. I think you just expect all announcers to know as much about UA hoops as you do yourself. Hard to do when you've got to cover 100+ teams, no?

Regarding Ashley in the high post against the zone: I would have thought the same. Rondae's short jumper isn't reliable enough to make him a threat, although his passing was phenomenal. I still remember watching Parrom execute the high post so well. Tall enough, good passer, threat to drive, threat to hit the little jumper.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:01 am
by Spaceman Spiff
WildcatStunner wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gumby wrote:Rewatched the game. Rondae made several clutch plays at a time when OSU looked to be in control. During the end-of-half run, he had a steal and three assists. Turned a six-point deficit into a 26-25 halftime lead.

Then he came right out with rebounds and assists during the first five minutes of the second half, where we score 15 in the first five minutes. All the while, Reggie Miller is saying, "I would put Rondae on the baseline and Ashley in the middle of the zone."

As if Rondae weren't already disrupting the zone and setting up easy buckets.
For Rondae and Stanley being off shooting the ball, they both contributed in other ways. Rondae had a great defensive game, hit the boards and manufactured his points at the line. SJ was strong on the glass and although he didn't have to shoulder the defensive load Rondae did, he was solid there too.

SJ and Rondae have off shooting games, but I don't know a pair of wings that come close to matching them in terms of stuffing the stat sheet.
You have to be a two way player to get minutes in Miller's system.
While I don't disagree, this understates it. Anywhere else, a pair of wings getting double figure rebounds would be big news. With Rondae and Stan, it's common, and making the exceptional common is a big deal.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:12 am
by rgdeuce
I too wanted to see Bash at the free throw line in that zone. Rondae picked it up later, but he was turning the ball over/dribbling into traffic/forcing balls to the low block when there was nothing there early. Bash is automatic from that spot with his jumper if the zone doesn't collapse and someone doesn't jump in his face, and I am a little more comfortable with his dribble than Rondae's should he need to use it. And you don't lose much in terms of rebounding, size and finishing around the bucket dropping rondae down to the low block. I love Rondae, but we all know he decides in his head exactly what he is going to do rather than adjusting to the defense or his defender. I was thinking that before Reggie said it and I think his thinking there was not off.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:40 am
by gumby
It was the timing of the comment. I can understand it in theory, but I wouldn't say it as Rondae is excelling.

Ashley is better at hitting the mid-range shot, but he has 24 assists in 36 games. Not exactly a distributor, and that's what Rondae was doing to fuel the run.

I don't believe Reggie Miller covers 100+ college teams. He, Chuck, Kenny parachute in for March. Otherwise, they're all about the NBA.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:46 am
by pokinmik
Yea I remember it well...RHJ was struggling in the beginning before we started hitting 3s to spread the zone a lil. Once some space cleared RHJ was tearing the middle of the zone up and literally mid-sentence, Reggie asking for BA in the middle, RHJ was dropping a dime for another score. Reggie even awkwardly slowed down during the sentence, contemplating not even finishing his incorrect thought out loud. But he did, then moved on to something else, never to speak of the incident again.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:44 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Rondae and Stan in an article about lottery prospects in the tourney.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/ncaa- ... -and-more/

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:35 am
by Puerco
pokinmik wrote:Yea I remember it well...RHJ was struggling in the beginning before we started hitting 3s to spread the zone a lil. Once some space cleared RHJ was tearing the middle of the zone up and literally mid-sentence, Reggie asking for BA in the middle, RHJ was dropping a dime for another score. Reggie even awkwardly slowed down during the sentence, contemplating not even finishing his incorrect thought out loud. But he did, then moved on to something else, never to speak of the incident again.
lol, too funny.

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:18 am
by azcat49
Anybody else think the shimreaper has stepped up his intensity this postseason. He looks to be all business out there

Re: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:14 am
by rgdeuce
azcat49 wrote:Anybody else think the shimreaper has stepped up his intensity this postseason. He looks to be all business out there
Don't think he needed it, but it is clear the DPOY snub pissed him off.