Re: Allonzo Trier
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:27 pm
lol
Arizona is appealing the suspension for the positive test, which the school argues is not a result of renewed PED use, but a residual trace of the steroid Ostarine in Trier’s system from 2016. That’s when Trier first tested positive for PED use, causing him to miss 19 games last season. Trier’s attorney Steve Thompson said Trier original ingestion of Ostarine was inadvertent and came as the result of his stepfather mixing it in a drink for the player.
That’s what I think as well and makes the most sense medically.Jefe wrote:He was tested every 7 to 10 days until he was cleared last year. This doesn't make any sense unless he took something again
Me either and I’m doneSpaceman Spiff wrote:Ray Smith tears his ACL 3 times.
Wisconsin beats us twice in the EE.
Zo pops dirty twice for the same thing twice.
I can't emotionally invest in this any more.
Thompson said the situation is similar to that of former Georgia offensive lineman Kolton Houston, who tested positive for a PED shortly after enrolling at the school in 2010 and still had traces of it in his system nearly three years later. Houston finally had a clean test in the summer of 2013 and was eligible to play.
“The NCAA’s intransigence on this issue is mind-boggling,” Thompson said. “Allonzo has never been a drug-cheat, and the NCAA found in 2016 that he never took Ostarine intentionally. The experts tell us Ostarine can be stored in fatty tissues for a long time, and tests can be negative but then later be positive as the substance comes out. The medical evidence also shows that the reappearance of a trace amount in his system now creates absolutely zero competitive advantage. We’ve asked the NCAA’s medical panel to review the case – as the rules provide – and the NCAA has refused. This is so frustrating and unnecessary, especially at this time of the season and Allonzo’s career.”
How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
This. Some PED's can be in there for years and the NCAA has a crazy policy of sitting people with NO CHANCE the substance is still active.ChooChooCat wrote:He didn't take anything, the ostarine is stored in his fat and his body metabolized it hence why such a ridiculously small trace popped up. The NCAA doesn't know wtf they're doing in regards to testing for this. This isn't Zo's fault.
They are refusing a re-test and just fucked us for the tourney. Dude, get a clue.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.
TatetheGreat wrote:They are refusing a re-test and just fucked us for the tourney. Dude, get a clue.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.
No mention of time for the review so it could still happen and Trier was not suspended for a year so there is hope, dude.“The NCAA’s intransigence on this issue is mind-boggling,” Thompson said. “Allonzo has never been a drug-cheat, and the NCAA found in 2016 that he never took Ostarine intentionally. The experts tell us Ostarine can be stored in fatty tissues for a long time, and tests can be negative but then later be positive as the substance comes out. The medical evidence also shows that the reappearance of a trace amount in his system now creates absolutely zero competitive advantage. We’ve asked the NCAA’s medical panel to review the case – as the rules provide – and the NCAA has refused. This is so frustrating and unnecessary, especially at this time of the season and Allonzo’s career.”
Thompson said the school requested a medical exception from the NCAA to allow Trier to continue playing, but that request was rejected Thursday and he was declared ineligible. Penalty for a second positive PED test would be a one-year suspension from competition.
deleted my post, don't feel like getting accused of personal attacks. but yeah.prh wrote:I'm on board split
Where did you see they're refusing a re-test?TatetheGreat wrote:They are refusing a re-test and just fucked us for the tourney. Dude, get a clue.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.
Clearly this negligible amount is his system is the reason for his better defense and more consistency of late.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.
well take out a bunch of adjectives and i think it'd be fine. and have plenty of supportsplitsecond wrote:deleted my post, don't feel like getting accused of personal attacks. but yeah.prh wrote:I'm on board split
"We’ve asked the NCAA’s medical panel to review the case – as the rules provide – and the NCAA has refused. This is so frustrating and unnecessary, especially at this time of the season and Allonzo’s career.”SteveKerrsStroke wrote:Where did you see they're refusing a re-test?TatetheGreat wrote:They are refusing a re-test and just fucked us for the tourney. Dude, get a clue.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.
Could be timing. If they asked today or this week then what can you do? Heeke and the lawyers will work on this with the NCAA if he is allowed a medical panel review.BBQ wildcat wrote:"We’ve asked the NCAA’s medical panel to review the case – as the rules provide – and the NCAA has refused. This is so frustrating and unnecessary, especially at this time of the season and Allonzo’s career.”SteveKerrsStroke wrote:Where did you see they're refusing a re-test?TatetheGreat wrote:They are refusing a re-test and just fucked us for the tourney. Dude, get a clue.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.
Thompson said the school requested a medical exception from the NCAA to allow Trier to continue playing, but that request was rejected Thursday and he was declared ineligible. Penalty for a second positive PED test would be a one-year suspension from competition."
I need to learn to control my hyperboleprh wrote:well take out a bunch of adjectives and i think it'd be fine. and have plenty of supportsplitsecond wrote:deleted my post, don't feel like getting accused of personal attacks. but yeah.prh wrote:I'm on board split
Look, this is not the right time for faux optimism and respect for the NCAA. I originally considered posting a personal attack and directly telling you to do unspeakable things to yourself.PHXCATS wrote:TatetheGreat wrote:They are refusing a re-test and just fucked us for the tourney. Dude, get a clue.PHXCATS wrote:How so, there is measurable amounts of a banned substance in a test.splitsecond wrote:the NCAA is a joke.
The NCAA did us a huge favor before. Hopefully they can continue to test often again.No mention of time for the review so it could still happen and Trier was not suspended for a year so there is hope, dude.“The NCAA’s intransigence on this issue is mind-boggling,” Thompson said. “Allonzo has never been a drug-cheat, and the NCAA found in 2016 that he never took Ostarine intentionally. The experts tell us Ostarine can be stored in fatty tissues for a long time, and tests can be negative but then later be positive as the substance comes out. The medical evidence also shows that the reappearance of a trace amount in his system now creates absolutely zero competitive advantage. We’ve asked the NCAA’s medical panel to review the case – as the rules provide – and the NCAA has refused. This is so frustrating and unnecessary, especially at this time of the season and Allonzo’s career.”
Thompson said the school requested a medical exception from the NCAA to allow Trier to continue playing, but that request was rejected Thursday and he was declared ineligible. Penalty for a second positive PED test would be a one-year suspension from competition.
It does not say timing though. If they asked for a review to happen today that is not likely possible. If it is in the NCAA rules he is allowed a review and they deny it in a reasonable time line then that is 100% wrongBBQ wildcat wrote:Are you blind Machina??? They asked the medical panel to review the case and they refused.
Kolton HoustonMrBug708 wrote:Kolton Miller is a UCLA football player, not the player in question
zonagrad wrote:At this point, maybe the UA should just say fuck you NCAA and play him anyway. Go ahead and vacate the victories, we don't care. The NCAA can't even wipe their own ass much less have a clue about PEDs.
My apologies. Honest mistake.YoDeFoe wrote:Kolton HoustonMrBug708 wrote:Kolton Miller is a UCLA football player, not the player in question
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Bilas gets it. This is awful and part of the backwards bs of the NCAA. He can't control the reappearance of metabolites and everyone knows it's not active.NYCat wrote: