Bear Down Wildcats

Could just hire a recruit's brother

Good news for Puff is that they’ll just make up classes for him that only exist on paper and he won’t have to attend. Enjoy that buddy.

does Miller go all out for Zaire Williams?

Frybry02 wrote:does Miller go all out for Zaire Williams?

I mean he's already trying. At this point it looks like he'll stay in the state of California.

The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yawn.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yawn.

Thats probably the most cognizant argument you are capable of making.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Frybry02 wrote:does Miller go all out for Zaire Williams?

I mean he's already trying. At this point it looks like he'll stay in the state of California.

Gotta think Kerwin is a must-get now.

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

None of your talking points are true. The sports media isn't guaranteed to be quiet, and could still hammer Arizona as the example. Just because we self-sanction doesn't mean more sanctions won't be added on. And we wouldn't be past the bad headlines (undeserved).

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

First of all if we would've self sanctioned it wouldn't have been for the Deandre Ayton season, so #1 is null and void.

Second of all even if we self-sanctioned we would have ZERO idea if that would serve the bloodlust that the NCAA requires. Maybe they would've been satisfied with a self-imposed postseason ban last year, maybe not, and we'd still have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our head until guess what? The NCAA lobbied said sanctions. Us self-imposing wouldn't have sped up their timeline whatsoever. We'd still be waiting just like we are right now without self-imposing. So #2 is null and void.

Third of all, the bad headlines would've continued regardless the second we decided to retain Sean Miller. Low and behold #3 is also null and void.

Also Sean Miller doesn't cry, Roy Williams does. That's literally why we lost Puff. Not because UA isn't UNC. If that was the case we wouldn't have Josh Green & Zeke Nnaji on our roster right now.

Your entire post is bullshit. Every single word of it.

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...

LOL, your "argument" is even less cognizant than Choo's yawn

At some point most rational people admit when they are wrong.

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...

LOL, your "argument" is even less cognizant than Choo's yawn

At some point most rational people admit when they are wrong.

Yawn x2.

goslingswagg wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

Frybry02 wrote:does Miller go all out for Zaire Williams?

I mean he's already trying. At this point it looks like he'll stay in the state of California.

Gotta think Kerwin is a must-get now.

Yup.

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...

Let's just get the infinity stones and snap the campus out of existence instead, it'll be less messier....outside of the ashes of course.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...

Let's just get the infinity stones and snap the campus out of existence instead, it'll be less messier....outside of the ashes of course.

Another "rational" argument.

If you actually have some reasonable argument....please make it. Otherwise stop wasting bandwidth.

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...

LOL, your "argument" is even less cognizant than Choo's yawn

At some point most rational people admit when they are wrong.

My argument is that you remind me of Bill Paxton’s character in Aliens.

Secure that shit Hudson.

Can you imagine the feeding frenzy and destruction if we had admitted guilt. That course of action would have made Arizona basketball Arizona football

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program[/quote]
What if we take off and nuke the Arizona campus from orbit? It’s the only way to be sure...[/quote]


LOL, your "argument" is even less cognizant than Choo's yawn

At some point most rational people admit when they are wrong.[/quote]
My argument is that you remind me of Bill Paxton’s character in Aliens.

Secure that shit Hudson.[/quote]

In other words, you don't have an argument. Not surprised.

Using the quote feature is hard.

But apparently it’s harder to wrap your head around the fact that only idiots self-sanction.

azcat49 wrote:Can you imagine the feeding frenzy and destruction if we had admitted guilt. That course of action would have made Arizona basketball Arizona football

In case you haven't noticed we are already in the middle of a feeding frenzy...........and have been since Books idiocy on tape came to light.
How many negative articles/posts/tweets has the UA been subjected to over the past two years?

The continued feeding frenzy has done more damage than any self sanctioning would have ever done. If we had dealt with the Book mess proactively we would not have sanctions hanging over our head and could be telling recruits that our problems are behind us.

Chicat wrote:Using the quote feature is hard.

But apparently it’s harder to wrap your head around the fact that only idiots self-sanction.

Still haven't presented a rational argument.

Are you contending that getting clobbered in recruiting right now is preferable to have taken our lumps (which would have been very limited) 18 months ago??? Real Weak Sauce

dmjcat wrote:

Another "rational" argument.

If you actually have some reasonable argument....please make it. Otherwise stop wasting bandwidth.

I made an argument in a post prior that you completely overlooked genius. Every argument you had was pure unadulterated bullshit and I made sure to detail out why. Your act is tired.

You actually haven’t proven that any difficulty we may be experiencing in recruiting right now is tied to impending sanctions. It certainly did not hurt us this past recruiting cycle.

That level would have been intensified if we would have told the NCAA, hey your investigation into Alkins and Ayton and Quinnerly was wrong and we did pay these guys so forget you cleared them to play.

Your thinking would have buried us for a millennial. With you in charge you probably would have told him you have a tape the FBI could never get snd it has Miller on it

Chicat wrote:You actually haven’t proven that any difficulty we may be experiencing in recruiting right now is tied to impending sanctions. It certainly did not hurt us this past recruiting cycle.

To be fair they are hurting us along with a mix of a few other issues that solely have to do with the 2020 recruiting class on the west coast as is, but as I detailed out in my long response to dmj, self-sanctioning wouldn't have improved our recruiting in any form of reality whatsoever, because we'd still be waiting on the NCAA to, you know, levy their actual decision on sanctions. They don't just say "ok what you self-sanctioned is good enough for us, carry on." The NCAA is ALWAYS harder on you when you literally ADMIT GUILT. Dmj is too feeble minded to understand that though.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Another "rational" argument.

If you actually have some reasonable argument....please make it. Otherwise stop wasting bandwidth.

I made an argument in a post prior that you completely overlooked genius. Every argument you had was pure unadulterated bullshit and I made sure to detail out why. Your act is tired.

You have not refuted a single point I made or made any rational counter-argument.

Your alleged "insider" act has been tired for a looooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg time.

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

Another "rational" argument.

If you actually have some reasonable argument....please make it. Otherwise stop wasting bandwidth.

I made an argument in a post prior that you completely overlooked genius. Every argument you had was pure unadulterated bullshit and I made sure to detail out why. Your act is tired.

You have not refuted a single point I made or made any rational counter-argument.

Your alleged "insider" act has been tired for a looooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg time.

Here I'll copy and paste it for you since you're so fucking obtuse. Your blathering couldn't be further from reality let alone rational. Here's my coherent rational reply to your ridiculous mess.

ChooChooCat wrote:First of all if we would've self sanctioned it wouldn't have been for the Deandre Ayton season, so #1 is null and void.

Second of all even if we self-sanctioned we would have ZERO idea if that would serve the bloodlust that the NCAA requires. Maybe they would've been satisfied with a self-imposed postseason ban last year, maybe not, and we'd still have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our head until guess what? The NCAA lobbied said sanctions. Us self-imposing wouldn't have sped up their timeline whatsoever. We'd still be waiting just like we are right now without self-imposing. So #2 is null and void.

Third of all, the bad headlines would've continued regardless the second we decided to retain Sean Miller. Low and behold #3 is also null and void.

Also Sean Miller doesn't cry, Roy Williams does. That's literally why we lost Puff. Not because UA isn't UNC. If that was the case we wouldn't have Josh Green & Zeke Nnaji on our roster right now.

Your entire post is bullshit. Every single word of it.

You're an idiot. Go to your hole.

I don't think anyone is arguing that we won't get hit by the NCAA on some level. What that is? Who really knows, its the NCAA we are talking about.

In hindsight, it is easy to say we should have self-sanctioned because those seasons sucked anyway but honestly, has self-sanctioning really ever helped anyone?

DrWildcat wrote:has self-sanctioning really ever helped anyone?

No, it hasn't, ever.

ChooChooCat wrote:

DrWildcat wrote:has self-sanctioning really ever helped anyone?

No, it hasn't, ever.

I can't think of an example of a school that self sanctioned that got off easier. Anyways, I'm begginning to think that if the NCAA had anything on Arizona they'd would've brought it up by now.

Geez. If someone is gonna argue with Choo, they should make sure that it's about something on the court...not behind the scenes or in recruiting.

I can't think of a single thing that guy has gotten wrong in that arena.

Don't be an idiot.

Also, if people thought that negative recruiting wouldn't hurt us in some way then they are naive...the NCAA will do whatever, and Miller will do whatever.

Enjoy the current year and trust in the process.

You have not refuted a single point I made or made any rational counter-argument.

Your alleged "insider" act has been tired for a looooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg time.[/quote]

Here I'll copy and paste it for you since you're so fucking obtuse. Your blathering couldn't be further from reality let alone rational. Here's my coherent rational reply to your ridiculous mess.

ChooChooCat wrote:First of all if we would've self sanctioned it wouldn't have been for the Deandre Ayton season, so #1 is null and void.

Second of all even if we self-sanctioned we would have ZERO idea if that would serve the bloodlust that the NCAA requires. Maybe they would've been satisfied with a self-imposed postseason ban last year, maybe not, and we'd still have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our head until guess what? The NCAA lobbied said sanctions. Us self-imposing wouldn't have sped up their timeline whatsoever. We'd still be waiting just like we are right now without self-imposing. So #2 is null and void.

Third of all, the bad headlines would've continued regardless the second we decided to retain Sean Miller. Low and behold #3 is also null and void.

Also Sean Miller doesn't cry, Roy Williams does. That's literally why we lost Puff. Not because UA isn't UNC. If that was the case we wouldn't have Josh Green & Zeke Nnaji on our roster right now.

Your entire post is bullshit. Every single word of it.

You're an idiot. Go to your hole.[/quote]

ZERO idea??? Hardly. The vast majority of schools that self sanction don't face additional penalties....for someone who claims to be an "insider" you know very little about how the NCAA operates.

We could have self sanctioned last year.......and lost almost ZERO for it.

You have NO idea how the press would have reacted. The talking heads would have likely moved on to another target.

So you claim to KNOW that we lost Puff because Roy Cried???
How in the hell do you know that???? Were you in the room with Puff/Roy or did you plant a microphone on Puff?

Your claims are getting more ludicrous by the minute.

If you are arguing to "self-sanction" then yes, you are an idiot. There doesn't need to be more discussion about it...you are just an idiot.

Self-sanctioning should never, ever be done. Period.

ChooChooCat wrote:

Chicat wrote:You actually haven’t proven that any difficulty we may be experiencing in recruiting right now is tied to impending sanctions. It certainly did not hurt us this past recruiting cycle.

To be fair they are hurting us along with a mix of a few other issues that solely have to do with the 2020 recruiting class on the west coast as is, but as I detailed out in my long response to dmj, self-sanctioning wouldn't have improved our recruiting in any form of reality whatsoever, because we'd still be waiting on the NCAA to, you know, levy their actual decision on sanctions. They don't just say "ok what you self-sanctioned is good enough for us, carry on." The NCAA is ALWAYS harder on you when you literally ADMIT GUILT. Dmj is too feeble minded to understand that though.

You’re right, and I should have said “solely”.

And as you’ve pointed out, self sanctioning would do absolutely nothing to speed up the NCAA’s timeline. I can’t remember a school self imposing a punishment and the NCAA coming in a couple weeks later with their own punishment or verdict. All self sanctioning would have likely done is lost us the majority of the ‘19/20 class and we might still be sitting here wondering about ‘20/21 and beyond.

BYU self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... /38459199/" target="_blank

Ole Miss self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... tions-ncaa" target="_blank

Hell Arizona self-sanctioned for buying Jamelle Horne a slice of pizza and the NCAA sanctioned us more.

It's what they do. You're either willfully ignorant to this process or you're trolling dmj. I really hope it's the latter.

Olsondogg wrote:If you are arguing to "self-sanction" then yes, you are an idiot. There doesn't need to be more discussion about it...you are just an idiot.

Self-sanctioning should never, ever be done. Period.

And your rational argument for not proactively dealing with Books mess is??????????????

dmjcat wrote:The vast majority of schools that self sanction don't face additional penalties.

Can you provide an example of a school that self sanctioned and the NCAA stated it would not have penalized them as much?

dmjcat wrote:

Chicat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:The impending NCAA sanctions hanging over the UA like a Sword of Damocles is obviously hurting us in this recruiting cycle.

We should have been proactive and dealt with this mess 18 months ago.

Yeah, same thing that happened to UNC resulting in ..... *checks notes* ..... two Final Fours and a National Championship.

UA is NOT UNC. Just ask Puff Johnson.

At this point its difficult to realistically make the argument that we shouldn't have self sanctioned. What would have happened if we had?

1) We would have avoided the embarrassment of the Buffalo beat-down on National TV
2) We would not have the sanctions boogey-man hanging over our heads.......and screwing up our 2020 recruiting
3) We would already be 18 months past the bad headlines.....and all of the talking heads would be picking on some
other program

You can self sanction and still be sanctioned additionally. 8t would still be hanging over us, and the NCAA could use it as a confession of guilt.

Self sanctioning would be a horrendous strategy, and our current recruiting class clearly shows we can still recruit.

ChooChooCat wrote:BYU self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... /38459199/" target="_blank

Ole Miss self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... tions-ncaa" target="_blank

Hell Arizona self-sanctioned for buying Jamelle Horne a slice of pizza and the NCAA sanctioned us more.

It's what they do. You're either willfully ignorant to this process or you're trolling dmj. I really hope it's the latter.

And the VAST majority of schools that self sanction DON't get hit with additional sanctions. If you don't know that (or are unwilling to admit it) then you shouldn't be posting on message boards.

Self sanctioning would be beyond idiotic

dmjcat wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:If you are arguing to "self-sanction" then yes, you are an idiot. There doesn't need to be more discussion about it...you are just an idiot.

Self-sanctioning should never, ever be done. Period.

And your rational argument for not proactively dealing with Books mess is??????????????

They fired Book immediately. The only way to take it further would've been to fire Sean Miller. Is that what you would've proposed?

Hell the AD even overreacted and fired Mark Phelps without having proof FFS. Right or wrong or both they certainly dealt with the messes they felt they had. Now from a PR standpoint yeah...they dropped the ball significantly there by not combatting any and all bogus reporting.

dmjcat wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:If you are arguing to "self-sanction" then yes, you are an idiot. There doesn't need to be more discussion about it...you are just an idiot.

Self-sanctioning should never, ever be done. Period.

And your rational argument for not proactively dealing with Books mess is??????????????

My rational argument is stated in this thread by multiple posters who know more than you do about the way things work, apparently.

I'm done with your "look at me" naysaying bullshit.

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:BYU self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... /38459199/" target="_blank

Ole Miss self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... tions-ncaa" target="_blank

Hell Arizona self-sanctioned for buying Jamelle Horne a slice of pizza and the NCAA sanctioned us more.

It's what they do. You're either willfully ignorant to this process or you're trolling dmj. I really hope it's the latter.

And the VAST majority of schools that self sanction DON't get hit with additional sanctions. If you don't know that (or are unwilling to admit it) then you shouldn't be posting on message boards.

Ok. Goodbye troll.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:BYU self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... /38459199/" target="_blank

Ole Miss self-sanctioned, the NCAA sanctioned more.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... tions-ncaa" target="_blank

Hell Arizona self-sanctioned for buying Jamelle Horne a slice of pizza and the NCAA sanctioned us more.

It's what they do. You're either willfully ignorant to this process or you're trolling dmj. I really hope it's the latter.

And the VAST majority of schools that self sanction DON't get hit with additional sanctions. If you don't know that (or are unwilling to admit it) then you shouldn't be posting on message boards.

Ok. Goodbye troll.

LOL, thats about the 10th time you have made that statement in the past couple of years.

My argument stands (and not very many people have made a cognizant response other than name-calling) The constant drip-drip-drip
Chinese torture of this whole mess would have been better dealt with 18 months age.

Now if Miller turns recruiting around, and the NCAA decides not to sanction us, and the press gets off our back........then I will cheerfully admit I was wrong. Which is obviously a lot more than some posters are capable of doing.

I think dmjcat just hates Nico and Josh and Zeke....because self sanctioning means we probably get none of them.

At this point I just want to ride out the storm and then dump Sean Miller after we come out the other end and get an actually decent in game coach. Granted I am probably in the minority who thinks Sean Miller is not a top 25 coach (great recruiter) who can take us where we all want to go.