Ąžuolas Tubelis

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:52 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:01 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:50 am I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Kriisa walk.
Same, especially with so much speculation Kriisa is heading to the bench.

Neither are really getting any better next season and both being around 21 might want to start getting paid. Larsson seems to have so much more potential than either of those two. Look for him to excel with the Swedish National Team.

I wish them both the best if they leave, but probably won't miss them. Need to start rebuilding with Lloyd's players.

Didn’t we have just two Miller players left this year? Kind of scary in a way

GlobalCat · Post by **GlobalCat** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:04 pm

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:07 pm CTL has to start landing these HS/international targets. We're probably not upgrading from the portal. Best case scenario is everyone returns and we make another run at it. Hopefully they focus on improving in the offseason as Zu was saying.

Why would you say that? The portal will continue to fill up over the next month and Arizona has two major playing opportunities available at SG and SF.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:18 pm

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:07 pm CTL has to start landing these HS/international targets.

What are you gonna do if he doesnt?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:22 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:18 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:07 pm CTL has to start landing these HS/international targets.
What are you gonna do if he doesnt?

Meet him behind the bleachers. It's what serious, good fans do.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:44 pm

GlobalCat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:04 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:07 pm CTL has to start landing these HS/international targets. We're probably not upgrading from the portal. Best case scenario is everyone returns and we make another run at it. Hopefully they focus on improving in the offseason as Zu was saying.

Why would you say that? The portal will continue to fill up over the next month and Arizona has two major playing opportunities available at SG and SF.

We really need high level athletes with size and skill. I doubt many, if any, of those guys hit the portal because they usually enter the draft like Mathurin, Terry, and Koloko.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:11 pm

I trust Tommy know what is best

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:47 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:18 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:07 pm CTL has to start landing these HS/international targets.
What are you gonna do if he doesnt?

So weird

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:16 pm

Agree. Super weird to demand coaches and players perform to a fan's expectation. Also love when fans call loses unacceptable. What happens next then?

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:42 pm

Scheer’s latest podcast is worth a listen.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/t ... 0605089549

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:38 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:16 pm Agree. Super weird to demand coaches and players perform to a fan's expectation. Also love when fans call loses unacceptable. What happens next then?

I feel like you aren’t as treasured offline as here on the internet. That’s a shame.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:14 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:11 pm I trust Tommy know what is best

This post is best read in a caveman voice. It's even better if you leave out "is."

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:14 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:16 pm Agree. Super weird to demand coaches and players perform to a fan's expectation. Also love when fans call loses unacceptable. What happens next then?

Stalking of course, what else?

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:56 am

Of course it’s weird to demand that coaches perform up to fan expectations. That’s why Kevin Sumlin is still the Arizona football coach and will be until he dies and ascends to heaven on his celestial Swagcopter.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:07 am

This thread took a weird turn...

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:12 am

CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:38 pm
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:16 pm Agree. Super weird to demand coaches and players perform to a fan's expectation. Also love when fans call loses unacceptable. What happens next then?
I feel like you aren’t as treasured offline as here on the internet. That’s a shame.

Thanks for thinking about me sweetheart but I am not interested

Thanks for thinking about about me in my personal life. It is flattering but again not interested. Never thought about anyone outside of what they post here bit clearly you have. Glad I mean so much to you but again not interested

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:40 am

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:12 am
CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:38 pm
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:16 pm Agree. Super weird to demand coaches and players perform to a fan's expectation. Also love when fans call loses unacceptable. What happens next then?
I feel like you aren’t as treasured offline as here on the internet. That’s a shame.
Thanks for thinking about me sweetheart but I am not interested

Thanks for thinking about about me in my personal life. It is flattering but again not interested. Never thought about anyone outside of what they post here bit clearly you have. Glad I mean so much to you but again not interested

For the record, CC97...PHX is not interested. In saying anything remotely interesting or constructive.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:48 am

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:12 am
CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:38 pm
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:16 pm Agree. Super weird to demand coaches and players perform to a fan's expectation. Also love when fans call loses unacceptable. What happens next then?
I feel like you aren’t as treasured offline as here on the internet. That’s a shame.
Thanks for thinking about me sweetheart but I am not interested

Thanks for thinking about about me in my personal life. It is flattering but again not interested. Never thought about anyone outside of what they post here bit clearly you have. Glad I mean so much to you but again not interested

What are you wearing right now?

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:10 am

Don’t run away from your feelings Phxcats!

(Sorry, I’m done derailing the thread. I hope Zu takes his POY snub and our first round exit personally and that he comes back on a mission to dominate.)

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:29 am

Yep Zu comes back he is a legend and UA is top 5 in the nation
Hope he comes back

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:02 am

With the newer rules, there is no harm in declaring for the NBA, go the camps, get professional feedback, then return, which I totally expect him to do. Of course his weaknesses are well known. Not quick enough to play good defense, no outside shot, and unable to use his right hand.

During summer workouts, Lloyd sure tie Zu's left arm behind his back.

Osborn · Post by **Osborn** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:37 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:02 am With the newer rules, there is no harm in declaring for the NBA, go the camps, get professional feedback, then return, which I totally expect him to do. Of course his weaknesses are well known. Not quick enough to play good defense, no outside shot, and unable to use his right hand.

During summer workouts, Lloyd sure tie Zu's left arm behind his back.

And fix that jump shot, which has a very low release for such a big guy.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:50 pm

Follow the Channing Frye example. Stay all four years. Develop a lethal three point shot. Play a decade in the NBA.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:17 pm

KaibabKat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:50 pm Follow the Channing Frye example. Stay all four years. Develop a lethal three point shot. Play a decade in the NBA.

Maybe he could add 18 inches to his vertical….

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:27 pm

Channing also developed a lot of toughness. He used to be called Shannon or Charmin, and even Hassan called him "Ham sandwich".

Lot different game back then. Can you imagine Sean Elliott staying 4 years now?

Sean Rooks not only stayed 4 years, he redshirted as a freshman. Still had a very long NBA career.

Gumbies! Buechler had a decent NBA career too. Harvey Mason was also very successful in the music industry. Although today I am sure Harvey has a very poor opinion of the UA.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:34 pm

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:20 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:34 pm

Mathurin was also second team consensus AA and in the Ring of Honor.

Does this mean that Zu will be also?

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:53 pm

pc in NM wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:20 pm
Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:34 pm

Mathurin was also second team consensus AA and in the Ring of Honor.

Does this mean that Zu will be also?

No, has to be First Team AA. Mathurin was inducted for Pac-12 Player of the Year (2022).

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:28 pm

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:34 pm

Are you reading that as if he is gone?

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:40 pm

Is this new? He hardly uses social media.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:34 pm

Wooden Award All-American!!

Arizona’s Azuolas Tubelis named Wooden Award All-American

By Ezra Amacher Mar 30, 2023, 5:14pm PDT

Azuolas Tubelis can add another All-American honor to his name.

Arizona’s junior forward was named to the John R. Wooden Award All-American team on Thursday, one of 10 players selected.

Other Wooden All-Americans are Zach Edey (Purdue), Trayce Jackson-Davis (Indiana), Jaime Jaquez Jr. (UCLA), Brandon Miller (Alabama), Jalen Pickett (Penn State), Marcus Sasser (Houston), Drew Timme (Gonzaga), Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky), and Jalen Wilson (Kansas).

The 6-foot-11 Tubelis averaged 19.8 points and 9.1 rebounds this season, leading the Pac-12 in both categories. Tubelis recorded 14 double-doubles, including a 40-point effort against Oregon at home.

Tubelis was previously named a consensus All-American after receiver Second Team honors from the NABC, USBWA, The Sporting News and the Associated Press. Tubelis is Arizona’s 14th all-time consensus All-American.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:53 pm

Well earned.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:55 pm

He definitely belongs in that group of players with what he accomplished this year.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:18 pm

Great college player. Do it again Zu!

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:27 pm

There are a lot of people doubting he will get drafted, but I'm not sure. I think he could get selected if he declares this year. I'd like to see him come back and improve his outside shooting and defense while proving his toughness in March. Pac-12 POY and first round pick material.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:34 pm

The last one I saw had Zu as a mid 2nd rounder.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:41 pm

Last I read he was a UFA, so not even 2nd round.

The AA status makes him more likely to be invited to the NBA camp, but his weaknesses are more than well known.

Like Bill Walton says, he will continue to be left handed all game.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:23 pm

So glad he's ours, whatever his future is, wherever it takes him.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:59 pm

arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:27 pm There are a lot of people doubting he will get drafted, but I'm not sure. I think he could get selected if he declares this year. I'd like to see him come back and improve his outside shooting and defense while proving his toughness in March. Pac-12 POY and first round pick material.

Do you think those are things CTL would force him to work on?
Serious question.

arizonawildcats · Post by **arizonawildcats** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:25 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:59 pm
arizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:27 pm There are a lot of people doubting he will get drafted, but I'm not sure. I think he could get selected if he declares this year. I'd like to see him come back and improve his outside shooting and defense while proving his toughness in March. Pac-12 POY and first round pick material.
Do you think those are things CTL would force him to work on?
Serious question.

CTL hasn't shown him the door. I'm sure they've talked about these things. He'll probably test the draft waters and go from there. I know nothing about international basketball vs. NIL money, so I can't weigh in on that.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:34 pm

Foreign players can't get NIL.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:41 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:34 pm Foreign players can't get NIL.

tubelis has an nil deal

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:19 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:34 pm Foreign players can't get NIL.

That is incorrect.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:13 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:34 pm Foreign players can't get NIL.

They can as long as it's passive, not active.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:28 am

Not sure what that means. Can you explain? When did that change? Thanks for the info.

CardiacCats97 · Post by **CardiacCats97** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:44 am

TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:28 am Not sure what that means. Can you explain? When did that change? Thanks for the info.

I think it means they can’t do any work. So you could give them money, but they can’t sign merchandise or do a commercial for a local business to earn that money.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:57 am

CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:44 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:28 am Not sure what that means. Can you explain? When did that change? Thanks for the info.
I think it means they can’t do any work. So you could give them money, but they can’t sign merchandise or do a commercial for a local business to earn that money.

So, like Congress.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:35 am

CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:44 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:28 am Not sure what that means. Can you explain? When did that change? Thanks for the info.
I think it means they can’t do any work. So you could give them money, but they can’t sign merchandise or do a commercial for a local business to earn that money.

A company can use his Name, image and likeness (an existing picture of him for example) to sell cups, shirts, whatever. But he cannot promote that product/event. He cannot pose for the picture, he cannot post about the product on social, he can’t even tell his friends or family about the product. But he would be able to profit a percentage from the product sales. Once he “promotes” it..it becomes active instead of passive.

I imagine the Arizona assist does this, and gives a % to the athletes, without the athletes promoting it.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:46 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:35 am
CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:44 am
TheCat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:28 am Not sure what that means. Can you explain? When did that change? Thanks for the info.
I think it means they can’t do any work. So you could give them money, but they can’t sign merchandise or do a commercial for a local business to earn that money.
A company can use his Name, image and likeness (an existing picture of him for example) to sell cups, shirts, whatever. But he cannot promote that product/event. He cannot pose for the picture, he cannot post about the product on social, he can’t even tell his friends or family about the product. But he would be able to profit a percentage from the product sales. Once he “promotes” it..it becomes active instead of passive.

I imagine the Arizona assist does this, and gives a % to the athletes, without the athletes promoting it.

That kinda how I envisioned NIL when O’Bannon started sueing people.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:51 am

It’s not an NIL issue, but student visa issue.

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