Bear Down Wildcats

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:14 pm

Winger wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:16 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:04 am I trust Lloyd and it sounds like he wants Boswell

More than good enough for me

He didn't want Boswell.

Was Vegas the final straw or was Tommy already done with Boswell before then?

Winger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:19 am

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:14 pm

Winger wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:16 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:04 am I trust Lloyd and it sounds like he wants Boswell

More than good enough for me

He didn't want Boswell.

Was Vegas the final straw or was Tommy already done with Boswell before then?

I don’t know and that post of mine comes off like I do. I was judging off of Boswell transferring, i.e. if Lloyd wanted Boswell he wouldn’t have transferred. He would never come out and say that to anyone (I don’t believe he would anyway) however as he doesn’t do that. You could tell that Boswell was done at Arizona though. The no shows, which continued right through to the end of the season (actually became worse), the import of position he plays at a program like Arizona, the off the court rumors (no clue if those are true either), the team’s play with Bradley in and him out, the 2-year plan, etc. A bit of a sad story, the ending in comparison to his start to the season. Hope he recovers at Illinois.

• I can't imagine CTL ever saying he "didn't want" a player publicly - especially based solely upon on-court performance/development.

• I hope CTL gave Boz honest feedback regarding his assessment, challenges and prospects moving forward, not whether he was "wanted-or-not"

• I think it's possible Boz was already leaning "transfer" before any postseason feedback from the coaching staff.

• CTL obviously gave Boz full support keeping him as starter throughout, when his performance was faltering.

• I doubt we'll ever have definitive answers to this unless CTL publishes a tell-all memoir post-retirement - which I doublt would ever happen...

pc in NM wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:02 am

Winger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:19 am

AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:14 pm

Winger wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:16 pm

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:04 am I trust Lloyd and it sounds like he wants Boswell

More than good enough for me

He didn't want Boswell.

Was Vegas the final straw or was Tommy already done with Boswell before then?

I don’t know and that post of mine comes off like I do. I was judging off of Boswell transferring, i.e. if Lloyd wanted Boswell he wouldn’t have transferred. He would never come out and say that to anyone (I don’t believe he would anyway) however as he doesn’t do that. You could tell that Boswell was done at Arizona though. The no shows, which continued right through to the end of the season (actually became worse), the import of position he plays at a program like Arizona, the off the court rumors (no clue if those are true either), the team’s play with Bradley in and him out, the 2-year plan, etc. A bit of a sad story, the ending in comparison to his start to the season. Hope he recovers at Illinois.

A couple of observations:

• I can't imagine CTL ever saying he "didn't want" a player publicly - especially based solely upon on-court performance/development.

• I hope CTL gave Boz honest feedback regarding his assessment, challenges and prospects moving forward, not whether he was "wanted-or-not"

• I think it's possible Boz was already leaning "transfer" before any postseason feedback from the coaching staff.

• CTL obviously gave Boz full support keeping him as starter throughout, when his performance was faltering.

• I doubt we'll ever have definitive answers to this unless CTL publishes a tell-all memoir post-retirement - which I doublt would ever happen...

dmjcat wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:05 pm Looks like the UA Basketball weight training regimen may leave something to be desired.

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:58 pm If Lloyd can't control his players on the court, doubtful they will listen to him regarding off court behavior.

Lute of course had issues with players partying before critical games. Thinking Luke and RJ had some notorious ones.

There was a clip yesterday someone posted about Walton talking how he got RJ suspended for 2 games when he bought him a ticket to SD for him and Luke.

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:58 pm If Lloyd can't control his players on the court, doubtful they will listen to him regarding off court behavior.

Lute of course had issues with players partying before critical games. Thinking Luke and RJ had some notorious ones.

There was a clip yesterday someone posted about Walton talking how he got RJ suspended for 2 games when he bought him a ticket to SD for him and Luke.

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:58 pm If Lloyd can't control his players on the court, doubtful they will listen to him regarding off court behavior.

Lute of course had issues with players partying before critical games. Thinking Luke and RJ had some notorious ones.

There was a clip yesterday someone posted about Walton talking how he got RJ suspended for 2 games when he bought him a ticket to SD for him and Luke.

TheCat wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 6:32 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:58 pm If Lloyd can't control his players on the court, doubtful they will listen to him regarding off court behavior.

Lute of course had issues with players partying before critical games. Thinking Luke and RJ had some notorious ones.

There was a clip yesterday someone posted about Walton talking how he got RJ suspended for 2 games when he bought him a ticket to SD for him and Luke.

Lloyd can't control his players on the court? That's rich. I guess the winningest coach during his first two years as a head coach just got lucky. Merk your getting to be the "get off my grass old man".

The reason RJ was suspended is because Bill provided them tickets to a pro game (he was broadcaster at) and the U of A out of an abundance of caution suspended RJ.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 8:54 am To steer things back to the thread topic, I’ll always be a little perplexed by KB’s unsteady development this past season. It’s possible his youth, relative to others in his class, just means he’s not going to truly peak until his 3rd or 4th year of college ball. Or it’s possible he got too comfortable at AZ and needs more of a hard ass like Underwood.

I didn’t want to see Boswell leave AZ. But sometimes a clean break and fresh start is what’s best for all parties.

Winger wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 8:09 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 8:54 am To steer things back to the thread topic, I’ll always be a little perplexed by KB’s unsteady development this past season. It’s possible his youth, relative to others in his class, just means he’s not going to truly peak until his 3rd or 4th year of college ball. Or it’s possible he got too comfortable at AZ and needs more of a hard ass like Underwood.

I didn’t want to see Boswell leave AZ. But sometimes a clean break and fresh start is what’s best for all parties.

Thing that perplexed me was the frequency of the bagels he put up.

Don't think I have ever seen that in a PG before. 15 and 8 to 0 and 2 to 14 and 7 to 2 and 1.

Bizarro.

That is why I posted early this off season that Lloyd/Arizona couldn't go in to the 2025-25 season with Boswell at the point.

Postmaster wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 9:45 am Isiah Fox is curious about the bagels also.