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Think it was due to Book feeding Ace Thakore (now deceased?) of PGU insider information when PGU was refused UA press credentials.zonagrad wrote: But Richardson had been suspended or had taken a medical leave. The rumors were substance abuse.
Right. So Book had some issues that Miller had dealt with before the FBI raid. When your boss gives you a second chance, you don't screw it up. Now, it's possible Book was acting on Miller's orders. If so, then I'd think he'd cut a deal and Miller would be in deep trouble. That likely would've happened by now, no?Merkin wrote:Think it was due to Book feeding Ace Thakore (now deceased?) of PGU insider information when PGU was refused UA press credentials.zonagrad wrote: But Richardson had been suspended or had taken a medical leave. The rumors were substance abuse.
The substance abuse may have been part of it too.
“Nearly suicidal with concern over how he will be able to take care of his family” and “sometimes suicidal” are different things.Jefe wrote:
Also those quotes came from Goodman article:
https://watchstadium.com/news/family-of ... 9-26-2018/" target="_blank
NBA star Kemba Walker is one of those who has helped — both emotionally and financially. So has former Arizona standout and current NBA player Solomon Hill.
But it’s up and down, good days followed by bad ones, times when Book will sit in his bedroom with the curtains closed for hours, depressed, nearly suicidal with concern over how he will be able to take care of his family. He doesn’t sleep, his back hurts and there was one day when his blood pressure soared to 183 over 101.
What a doucheDrWildcat wrote:And it was written by Mark Schlabach...
There is a lot of BS in that article. It talks about refusal of public records requests for subpoenas and GJ docs like the U of A plays a role. That is the investigative agency only.ByJoveByJingle wrote:Good god, look at the slant in this ESPN article. Picture of Miller, the bulk of the first part of the article focusing on Arizona based on their shitty investigative work followed up by far more substantiated and serious allegations of other schools buried farther down in the article. Twitter army, do your thing . . .
{And I’m not suggesting Arizona didn’t do anything or won’t get hammered eventually . . . these things are independent from the shitty journalistic practices ESPN has continued to deploy. I mean, read the Yahoo article and see the difference. It’s incredible, really}
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ial-starts
Unless new testimony contradicts anything this is merely a simple he said he said deal in regards to Arizona. Gatto's proof is Brad Augustine's claims (he already admitted we wanted more money from Adidas just to get more money) and Little & his father deny ever being offered any thing from any school.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Not a shocker. The 150k allegation about Little was why Miami was after money for Little.
Another article says Zion Williamson is listed as a name that may come up. Good thing he picked Duke so there's no chance of NCAA sanctions.
Oregon probably did it the right way, through Nike or another intermediary. We got hosed because Book got caught on a wire for that small potatoes bribe, not because of the deeper allegations about payment. Those are everywhere for a ton of players.ChooChooCat wrote:Unless new testimony contradicts anything this is merely a simple he said he said deal in regards to Arizona. Gatto's proof is Brad Augustine's claims (he already admitted we wanted more money from Adidas just to get more money) and Little & his father deny ever being offered any thing from any school.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Not a shocker. The 150k allegation about Little was why Miami was after money for Little.
Another article says Zion Williamson is listed as a name that may come up. Good thing he picked Duke so there's no chance of NCAA sanctions.
The juicy part of all of this is they're alleging Oregon offered 100k for Brian Bowen. Why the **** could that allegation not have come out a year ago?
That's exactly what it is. This part of the hearing is meaningless for us outside of dragging our name back through the mud. The Book hearing in April will be much more substantial, but even then at worst it'll be another he said he said deal.Spaceman Spiff wrote: This sounds like an "everyone else was doing it" defense.
I'm sure we'll be part of the everyone else. I doubt new evidence emerges. That doesn't mean the Arizona Daily Star won't do like 7 articles on the speculation.ChooChooCat wrote:That's exactly what it is. This part of the hearing is meaningless for us outside of dragging our name back through the mud. The Book hearing in April will be much more substantial, but even then at worst it'll be another he said he said deal.Spaceman Spiff wrote: This sounds like an "everyone else was doing it" defense.
Good lord, I'm not opening or linking it, but the lead headline on the Star is "Defense Attorney: Arizona offered 150k to Little."Spaceman Spiff wrote:I'm sure we'll be part of the everyone else. I doubt new evidence emerges. That doesn't mean the Arizona Daily Star won't do like 7 articles on the speculation.ChooChooCat wrote:That's exactly what it is. This part of the hearing is meaningless for us outside of dragging our name back through the mud. The Book hearing in April will be much more substantial, but even then at worst it'll be another he said he said deal.Spaceman Spiff wrote: This sounds like an "everyone else was doing it" defense.
Unless there's a new phone conversation that implicates Arizona that no one has heard, the defense's entire case in regards to Arizona comes from the lips of a man who openly admitted he was trying to extort money from Adidas and said what he needed to (This Nike school is offering this amount of money, you have to beat it) to get the amount of cash he wanted. Good luck.EVCat wrote:so the headline is shiny and splashy..."ARIZONA OFFERED TO PAY LITTLE"...
...but he went to Miami suddenly. And the "Arizona to pay..." is hearsay, and backed by zero tangible evidence.
And Oregon was ready to go NIKEOREGONSWOOSH for all the players...
We might end up being the 50th most hit program by the end of this...unless Miller is a stone-faced sociopath and he is on the tap.
The guy alleging that he was only trying to match competing offers, is throwing his universities, their coaches and the players down-the-road; and he's likely lying about the competing offers, to boot.James Gatto didn't break law in orchestrating payments to recruits, attorneys say
Mark Schlabach
Jeff Borzello
"NCAA rules were broken," attorney Casey Donnelly told the jury. "We are not going to waste your time pretending these families did not get funds."
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"The NCAA rules are the not the laws of the country," she said. "It's like a kids' after-school soccer league, if that soccer league also brought in $1 billion a year. These aren't the laws. They're the equivalent of the rules in your apartment building. If you break them, you haven't broken the law. It is not against the law to violate NCAA rules."
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"The basketball coaches would ask for Jim's help in recruiting particularly talented basketball players to their programs," Donnelly said. "I suspect you know what kind of 'help' the coaches wanted from Jim. He's not a guidance counselor. Jim understood that Adidas should help the families out if that's what the coaches wanted."
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... orneys-say" target="_blank
Vitale is desperately searching for the portion of the story that mentions Arizona to copy/paste on Twitter.ByJoveByJingle wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... kyle-kuzma
So much tragicomedy here. ESPN putting Schlabach back on this story as the lead reporter after his clusterfuck with Arizona. Oregon offering 100k for Bowen. Pitino being aware of the payment for Bowen. Not on Twitter, but please tell me that Dickie V is currently choking on a dick?
The only difference between basketball and football is the shoe company involvement is much much much bigger in basketball. Football is a boosters game.Gladiator Cat wrote:I can guarantee you that this has also been going on in college football for decades.
As a matter of fact, amateurism in college athletics its one of the most well known jokes running around in big-time football and basketball circles like forever.
Benefits are given to top players under the table by every school that gives two shits about football. Arizona is simply one of the lowest bidders in football with lesser deep pockets.
Just look at the shit product the paying public has to endure on the football field to understand where we lay on the football power money tree pecking order.
UofA Basketball on the other hand is at the top of the money tree Capstone so they demand more of the leveraging cash for pay to play and get it.
Amateurism in all it glory is complete and utter BS in the monied sports world.
Basketball players sell shoes. Who's the football player with the highest selling shoes? No one goes out to buy the Tom Brady 7's.ChooChooCat wrote:The only difference between basketball and football is the shoe company involvement is much much much bigger in basketball. Football is a boosters game.Gladiator Cat wrote:I can guarantee you that this has also been going on in college football for decades.
As a matter of fact, amateurism in college athletics its one of the most well known jokes running around in big-time football and basketball circles like forever.
Benefits are given to top players under the table by every school that gives two shits about football. Arizona is simply one of the lowest bidders in football with lesser deep pockets.
Just look at the shit product the paying public has to endure on the football field to understand where we lay on the football power money tree pecking order.
UofA Basketball on the other hand is at the top of the money tree Capstone so they demand more of the leveraging cash for pay to play and get it.
Amateurism in all it glory is complete and utter BS in the monied sports world.
That's because no man wants a pair of UGGs.Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Basketball players sell shoes. Who's the football player with the highest selling shoes? No one goes out to buy the Tom Brady 7's.
Also, basketball is just easier to influence. Football, one or two five stars won't massively influence an otherwise poor roster. Two five stars can turn you into a final four contender.
No way. They still have a picture of a distressed looking Miller on their basketball homepage that links to the reporting about the scandal and current trial. No picture of Self, Enfield, etc.; no picture of former players from other top programs alleged to have received payments. It is astonishing to continue to see their blatant hatred of the program and coach on full display.Chicat wrote:I’m sure ESPeNis and Mark Skullfuck will correct the record at any moment now.
Also please notice that Schlafucks original report no longer references any dates whatsoever.midnightx wrote:No way. They still have a picture of a distressed looking Miller on their basketball homepage that links to the reporting about the scandal and current trial. No picture of Self, Enfield, etc.; no picture of former players from other top programs alleged to have received payments. It is astonishing to continue to see their blatant hatred of the program and coach on full display.Chicat wrote:I’m sure ESPeNis and Mark Skullfuck will correct the record at any moment now.
No picture of the actual coaches who were arrested, which would make the most sense, along with Pitino who actually lost his job of course.midnightx wrote:No way. They still have a picture of a distressed looking Miller on their basketball homepage that links to the reporting about the scandal and current trial. No picture of Self, Enfield, etc.; no picture of former players from other top programs alleged to have received payments. It is astonishing to continue to see their blatant hatred of the program and coach on full display.Chicat wrote:I’m sure ESPeNis and Mark Skullfuck will correct the record at any moment now.
Hey, we were the low money bidder and leading before Rawle and Trier returned. In a way, we were clearly doing more to reduce money in the college game than any of his other finalists.84Cat wrote:Okie State more than tripled our offer. I guess we are cheap, lol
Will Pasternack lose his job?
In the nonsensical NCAA world, probably. Second question, did Duke do it? If Duke did it...well, no one really cares.Chicat wrote:Is giving a recruit’s dad $100k somehow different than hiring them for a year at $100k?
Yeah. Especially when it's completely apparent that every other top 50 program does the same thing. When everyone is cheating I'm not really worried.Newportcat wrote:This thread is kind of funny now knowing how unimportant this probe really is to our long term future. Current recruits are obviously not worried about the ramifications against Arizona at all.
Seems like good click bate but nothing else
If Duke does it, ESPN will put Sean Miller’s picture on the front page with the headline, “More NCAA Cheating?”Spaceman Spiff wrote:In the nonsensical NCAA world, probably. Second question, did Duke do it? If Duke did it...well, no one really cares.Chicat wrote:Is giving a recruit’s dad $100k somehow different than hiring them for a year at $100k?