Bear Down Wildcats

PHXCATS wrote:Bruce was just on 1580 here in Phoenix being clueless but he did say he believes we hear more on Trier soon

DiehardDave37 wrote:All true fans want you with us circling the wagons, Catgrad.
Do not feed the trolls, even those disguised as Wildcats.

Beachcat97 wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

DrWildcat wrote:So does anyone think Allonzo will actually be cleared? Seems like the NCAA clears players (i.e. Duke, MSU etc.) within hours if they really want to. I have a feeling they don't really want to in this case. Hope I'm wrong.

Just speculating but I think Trier is done at AZ. The NCAA rules call for a season long suspension following a 2nd positive test. Its possible they could clear him if he passes a 2nd test, but we all know from last year how long it takes for this crap to get out of ones system.

The FBI mess certainly isn't helping our cause either.

Disagree. Think he plays in one or both games this week.

Don Catlin, founder and former director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory, questioned whether it was plausible for a detectable amount of Ostarine to stay in an athlete’s system for more than 400 days. It added to Catlin’s skepticism that Trier passed multiple random drug screenings in between the NCAA lifting his 19-game suspension 13 months ago and his most recent positive test in late January.

“If the original positive finding was indeed due to inadvertent use of Ostarine in a drink provided by Trier’s father, as opposed to purposeful use of an Ostarine supplement by Trier, then it would be highly unlikely that he would test positive a year later from the original inadvertent use,” Catlin told Yahoo Sports. “Certainly a number of negative results in between support the conclusion that the most recent positive was not connected to the original inadvertent use.

“While hydration, which can affect pH of a urine sample, could be a factor and can influence results, it would not seem a very plausible explanation for a positive drug test occurring a year after inadvertent use of Ostarine. The pH of the negative samples in between could be compared to that of the original and recent positive to evaluate that further.”

exonerating him by now. The dehydration theory Thompson has floated doesn’t hold much merit to Ferguson either because Trier has now had ample time to down as much water as he pleases before retesting himself.

That leaves Ferguson considering two weird possibilities: Trier taking the same drug a second time knowing he’s going to get tested or a trace amount of Ostarine reappearing in Trier’s body out of nowhere despite multiple negative tests since the original ingestion. Ferguson noted that Ostarine typically has a half life of approximately 24 hours, meaning that the amount in the average person’s system should reduce by half each day until it exponentially decays and clears from the body.

“Some people have different levels of enzymes to process drug molecules and things can linger longer, but even if he has deficiencies in his clearance, it wouldn’t go to zero and then come back,” Ferguson said. “That’s highly unlikely unless there was something really odd going on.”

Doctors Duane Miller and James Dalton created Ostarine about 20 years ago in hopes that it would combat muscle atrophy that affects cancer patients and treat the withering of old age. The unsanctioned drug has not been sufficiently tested to be sold legally for human consumption, but dozens of websites peddle Ostarine and other selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs).

The product has obvious appeal for athletes and body builders because of its muscle-building and fat-burning properties. It accelerates muscle growth without the hair loss, skin problems and excess estrogen associated with testosterone and anabolic steroids.

“You do research to pick that drug,” Ferguson said. “You don’t pick that one by accident. That particular drug is pretty good at targeting muscle and bone and not causing the side effects of anabolic steroids. You don’t get enlargement of your breasts, you don’t get changing of your voice.”

NYCat wrote:Either way I doubt we see Trier in a Arizona uniform again

NYCat wrote:And the NCAA acting quickly, which they never do.

NYCat wrote:And the NCAA acting quickly, which they never do.

Merkin wrote:

NYCat wrote:And the NCAA acting quickly, which they never do.

Not for Arizona anyway.

NCAA cleared Miles Bridges rather quickly.

NYCat wrote:

Merkin wrote:

NYCat wrote:And the NCAA acting quickly, which they never do.

Not for Arizona anyway.

NCAA cleared Miles Bridges rather quickly.

Because he donated the cost of the meal ($40) to charity

CalStateTempe wrote:

NYCat wrote:

Merkin wrote:

NYCat wrote:And the NCAA acting quickly, which they never do.

Not for Arizona anyway.

NCAA cleared Miles Bridges rather quickly.

Because he donated the cost of the meal ($40) to charity

Trier should donate his kidneys to the NCAA, problem solved.

EastCoastCat wrote:And that so-called expert was from UCLA. Just sayin....

Shit, I've become so paranoid lately. Wonder why???

phxcat23 wrote:When the creators of the drug chime in and say his case is weird, and that it is usually out of your system in 1 week, then it doesn't look good for Trier. They do acknowledge that it might have been compartmentalized somewhere in his body and then left when they tested him, but based on what they were saying it didn't look all that great.

BBQ wildcat wrote:The way this season is going, he won't be cleared. Without Trier or Miller, I won't be watching any postseason basketball.

LBdCactus wrote:

BBQ wildcat wrote:The way this season is going, he won't be cleared. Without Trier or Miller, I won't be watching any postseason basketball.

Wrong. The way this season is going they will find a trace in Lute's piss and vacate the 1997 Natty.

Longhorned wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:When the creators of the drug chime in and say his case is weird, and that it is usually out of your system in 1 week, then it doesn't look good for Trier. They do acknowledge that it might have been compartmentalized somewhere in his body and then left when they tested him, but based on what they were saying it didn't look all that great.

If it's usually out of your system in one week, then why did Trier test positive for months in 2016-17? That whole time, the issue was that it was stored in his body fat. Are we supposed to believe that the problem was that he kept taking the stuff during all of those weekly tests, and now is taking it again? This isn't heroine. It's not addictive.

CatHoops wrote:Heard he tested today. His and rawles twitter handle say #freethereal.

SteveKerrsStroke wrote:

CatHoops wrote:Heard he tested today. His and rawles twitter handle say #freethereal.

Taking a look at Trier's twitter likes is very entertaining, big fan of ODogg

CatFanOneMil wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:When the creators of the drug chime in and say his case is weird, and that it is usually out of your system in 1 week, then it doesn't look good for Trier. They do acknowledge that it might have been compartmentalized somewhere in his body and then left when they tested him, but based on what they were saying it didn't look all that great.

If it's usually out of your system in one week, then why did Trier test positive for months in 2016-17? That whole time, the issue was that it was stored in his body fat. Are we supposed to believe that the problem was that he kept taking the stuff during all of those weekly tests, and now is taking it again? This isn't heroine. It's not addictive.

One of the things I discovered when reading up about Ostarine is that there have been documented accounts of athletes that have failed drug tests because they were taking salt tablets that were packaged at a drug mill that also packaged Ostarine and did not separate tablet machines thus contaminating the simple salt tablets with very trace amounts...it lasted for months...and that was not even a dose of it, just trace residual from a packaging machine.

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:

CatFanOneMil wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:When the creators of the drug chime in and say his case is weird, and that it is usually out of your system in 1 week, then it doesn't look good for Trier. They do acknowledge that it might have been compartmentalized somewhere in his body and then left when they tested him, but based on what they were saying it didn't look all that great.

If it's usually out of your system in one week, then why did Trier test positive for months in 2016-17? That whole time, the issue was that it was stored in his body fat. Are we supposed to believe that the problem was that he kept taking the stuff during all of those weekly tests, and now is taking it again? This isn't heroine. It's not addictive.

One of the things I discovered when reading up about Ostarine is that there have been documented accounts of athletes that have failed drug tests because they were taking salt tablets that were packaged at a drug mill that also packaged Ostarine and did not separate tablet machines thus contaminating the simple salt tablets with very trace amounts...it lasted for months...and that was not even a dose of it, just trace residual from a packaging machine.

This is crazy, the drug guy says it's gone in a week, it is weird that it's still around, yet trace amounts from a packaging machine ingested via contaminated salt pills can stick around for months?
Doesn't seem like both of these can be true about the same substance.

Phylek wrote:Well, if our athletes are starving to death I think it's safe to say that no one is giving them extra benefits. Boom. Miller cleared.

Frybry02 wrote:Bump *sigh*

I want any good news right now.

btfd16 wrote:Last time didn't he get tested every Monday with the results coming back Thursday mornings? Or was it Tuesday/Friday? I forget specifics.

prh wrote:So....any movement here?

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

prh wrote:So....any movement here?

If that press conference is followed by Trier being back, it's definitely going to move.