Re: Official Bracketology Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:27 pm
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I've watched them and they are offensively challenged. Get out your advanced stats but Arizona with a less than stellar defense held UCLA to 44 points with 2 minutes left in their game in Tucson. In our first game, UCLA shot 31% / 20% /55%. WOW what an offense. In the second, UCLA shot 42% / 27% / 91%. They have been better lately but it is really a two man show with an occasional hot 3 point shooter. Must have hit a nerve on that one. If they played Tennessee it would be 28-25 at the end of the game. Virginia might be a bit better.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:09 pmLuckily can UCLA do just that and the advance stats back up the fact that they can absolutely score. Unless you have evidence otherwise?TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:05 pmYou have to score more than 55-60 against good teams to be a serious NC contender. Other than that your post is as good as usual.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:51 pmI couldn't agree more with regard to UCLA. Even without Clark I still think they're a serious NC contender. They pretty much dominated us in the last meeting and I expect about the same result tonight. It would be nice to get 4 teams in from the Pac but who knows. But let's be honest, UCLA is the only serious contender from the Pac 12 that can make a deep tournament run. All the others will be gone in the first or second game.TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:34 am If UCLA does not get a one seed I just look at that as total disrespect for the PAC-12. They have not lost since January. What other team can say that? No one. I hope they get a one seed and do well in the tourney. Also hope the PAC gets 4 teams in even if it includes the Sun Devils or Oregon.
If we are doing the eye test, Arizona must be challenged offensively too based on the two UCLA games. But we exist in the real world where we don't base offenses on points scored. A world where understand efficiency, per 36, kenpom and other analytics. Citing bad games and calling it bad offenses is like looking at snow and not believing global warming is a thing. UCLA might have a boring offense but the score is low because they limit possessions.TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:32 pmI've watched them and they are offensively challenged. Get out your advanced stats but Arizona with a less than stellar defense held UCLA to 44 points with 2 minutes left in their game in Tucson. In our first game, UCLA shot 31% / 20% /55%. WOW what an offense. In the second, UCLA shot 42% / 27% / 91%. They have been better lately but it is really a two man show with an occasional hot 3 point shooter. Must have hit a nerve on that one. If they played Tennessee it would be 28-25 at the end of the game. Virginia might be a bit better.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:09 pmLuckily can UCLA do just that and the advance stats back up the fact that they can absolutely score. Unless you have evidence otherwise?TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:05 pmYou have to score more than 55-60 against good teams to be a serious NC contender. Other than that your post is as good as usual.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:51 pmI couldn't agree more with regard to UCLA. Even without Clark I still think they're a serious NC contender. They pretty much dominated us in the last meeting and I expect about the same result tonight. It would be nice to get 4 teams in from the Pac but who knows. But let's be honest, UCLA is the only serious contender from the Pac 12 that can make a deep tournament run. All the others will be gone in the first or second game.TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:34 am If UCLA does not get a one seed I just look at that as total disrespect for the PAC-12. They have not lost since January. What other team can say that? No one. I hope they get a one seed and do well in the tourney. Also hope the PAC gets 4 teams in even if it includes the Sun Devils or Oregon.
I see tonight as a toss up. If we can play a little better defensively and Remy is Remy it will be better than LA. If not they can win the PAC tourney which they haven't in awhile.
Excellent reply Mr. Bug. UCLA's ability to control tempo and be efficient with less possessions makes them very difficult to beat. The Bruins scored 82 on Arizona in the last meeting and essentially beat the Cats at their own game. The ability to adjust and adapt to your opponent is a strong suit for UCLA and I believe it's why they win again tonight. I also believe it's why they're a FF/NC contender again.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:15 pmIf we are doing the eye test, Arizona must be challenged offensively too based on the two UCLA games. But we exist in the real world where we don't base offenses on points scored. A world where understand efficiency, per 36, kenpom and other analytics. Citing bad games and calling it bad offenses is like looking at snow and not believing global warming is a thing. UCLA might have a boring offense but the score is low because they limit possessions.TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:32 pmI've watched them and they are offensively challenged. Get out your advanced stats but Arizona with a less than stellar defense held UCLA to 44 points with 2 minutes left in their game in Tucson. In our first game, UCLA shot 31% / 20% /55%. WOW what an offense. In the second, UCLA shot 42% / 27% / 91%. They have been better lately but it is really a two man show with an occasional hot 3 point shooter. Must have hit a nerve on that one. If they played Tennessee it would be 28-25 at the end of the game. Virginia might be a bit better.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:09 pmLuckily can UCLA do just that and the advance stats back up the fact that they can absolutely score. Unless you have evidence otherwise?TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:05 pmYou have to score more than 55-60 against good teams to be a serious NC contender. Other than that your post is as good as usual.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:51 pm
I couldn't agree more with regard to UCLA. Even without Clark I still think they're a serious NC contender. They pretty much dominated us in the last meeting and I expect about the same result tonight. It would be nice to get 4 teams in from the Pac but who knows. But let's be honest, UCLA is the only serious contender from the Pac 12 that can make a deep tournament run. All the others will be gone in the first or second game.
I see tonight as a toss up. If we can play a little better defensively and Remy is Remy it will be better than LA. If not they can win the PAC tourney which they haven't in awhile.
You can Google kenpom, but if the analysis is "TheCat's eye test", no amount of evidence will change your mind.
Good luck today!
I didn't know that you considered outside the top 20 in efficiency as elite. I guess I'm just spoiled. You're great on defense so you have that to hang your hat on. I don't consider Arizona as elite on defense so no need to get upset. You are right about 1 thing, your offense is boring but hey you're winning and that is all that matters.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:15 pmIf we are doing the eye test, Arizona must be challenged offensively too based on the two UCLA games. But we exist in the real world where we don't base offenses on points scored. A world where understand efficiency, per 36, kenpom and other analytics. Citing bad games and calling it bad offenses is like looking at snow and not believing global warming is a thing. UCLA might have a boring offense but the score is low because they limit possessions.TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:32 pmI've watched them and they are offensively challenged. Get out your advanced stats but Arizona with a less than stellar defense held UCLA to 44 points with 2 minutes left in their game in Tucson. In our first game, UCLA shot 31% / 20% /55%. WOW what an offense. In the second, UCLA shot 42% / 27% / 91%. They have been better lately but it is really a two man show with an occasional hot 3 point shooter. Must have hit a nerve on that one. If they played Tennessee it would be 28-25 at the end of the game. Virginia might be a bit better.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:09 pmLuckily can UCLA do just that and the advance stats back up the fact that they can absolutely score. Unless you have evidence otherwise?TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:05 pmYou have to score more than 55-60 against good teams to be a serious NC contender. Other than that your post is as good as usual.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:51 pm
I couldn't agree more with regard to UCLA. Even without Clark I still think they're a serious NC contender. They pretty much dominated us in the last meeting and I expect about the same result tonight. It would be nice to get 4 teams in from the Pac but who knows. But let's be honest, UCLA is the only serious contender from the Pac 12 that can make a deep tournament run. All the others will be gone in the first or second game.
I see tonight as a toss up. If we can play a little better defensively and Remy is Remy it will be better than LA. If not they can win the PAC tourney which they haven't in awhile.
You can Google kenpom, but if the analysis is "TheCat's eye test", no amount of evidence will change your mind.
Good luck today!
36.7%MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:15 pmIf we are doing the eye test, Arizona must be challenged offensively too based on the two UCLA games. But we exist in the real world where we don't base offenses on points scored. A world where understand efficiency, per 36, kenpom and other analytics. Citing bad games and calling it bad offenses is like looking at snow and not believing global warming is a thing. UCLA might have a boring offense but the score is low because they limit possessions.TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:32 pmI've watched them and they are offensively challenged. Get out your advanced stats but Arizona with a less than stellar defense held UCLA to 44 points with 2 minutes left in their game in Tucson. In our first game, UCLA shot 31% / 20% /55%. WOW what an offense. In the second, UCLA shot 42% / 27% / 91%. They have been better lately but it is really a two man show with an occasional hot 3 point shooter. Must have hit a nerve on that one. If they played Tennessee it would be 28-25 at the end of the game. Virginia might be a bit better.MrBug708 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:09 pmLuckily can UCLA do just that and the advance stats back up the fact that they can absolutely score. Unless you have evidence otherwise?TheCat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:05 pmYou have to score more than 55-60 against good teams to be a serious NC contender. Other than that your post is as good as usual.Captain Obvious wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:51 pm
I couldn't agree more with regard to UCLA. Even without Clark I still think they're a serious NC contender. They pretty much dominated us in the last meeting and I expect about the same result tonight. It would be nice to get 4 teams in from the Pac but who knows. But let's be honest, UCLA is the only serious contender from the Pac 12 that can make a deep tournament run. All the others will be gone in the first or second game.
I see tonight as a toss up. If we can play a little better defensively and Remy is Remy it will be better than LA. If not they can win the PAC tourney which they haven't in awhile.
You can Google kenpom, but if the analysis is "TheCat's eye test", no amount of evidence will change your mind.
Good luck today!
It's about time you dragged your sorry ass back on site!CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:48 am Well I guess it only took us winning the pac 12 tourney to get my access to the site back!
Ie either that or I remembered my password finally!
Bear down!!!
Come to sac cats!!!!!
Welcome back CST!CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:48 am Well I guess it only took us winning the pac 12 tourney to get my access to the site back!
Ie either that or I remembered my password finally!
Bear down!!!
Come to sac cats!!!!!
I've seen a couple of #2 in the South with Alabama and Kansas St as #3RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:39 am All the best bracketologists on bracket matrix have Arizona as the #2 seed in the Midwest with Kansas.
We need to will this into existence.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:39 am All the best bracketologists on bracket matrix have Arizona as the #2 seed in the Midwest with Kansas.
They have no front court but I don't want to play Kansas in Kansas City in a home game (Arizona will definitely not outdraw Kansas fans)AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:48 pmWe need to will this into existence.RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:39 am All the best bracketologists on bracket matrix have Arizona as the #2 seed in the Midwest with Kansas.
Hopefully ASU is.EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:59 pm Is there really any mystery on the selections?
I mean maybe a seed or two and maybe regions, but is anyone sweating it out?