Bear Down Wildcats

pc in NM wrote:I think the Cats have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get the #2 seed in the West

A #2 seed is locked up

We lock up #2 in west if we get to the finals.

We win and we probably get #1 Seed in West.

KaibabKat wrote:We left our #1 NCAA seed somewhere in Las Vegas last December. Now we are back there looking for it.

win out and it will firmly be in the back right pocket again on the way to McCarran International

I don't give a fuck btw. Freight train is a comin...

West is locked up. RPI, SOS, and HtoH favour AZ over Zaga. Win out...and leave Vegas as one of the few winners to leave town.

CalStateTempe wrote:Jay Williams said during the to zagS game last night that with a zags win they are #2 in the west and arizona is a 2 elsewhere. Stated the no offense meme and 3 bad losses as reasons.

Rubbish.

Zags score a bucket more per game. Did he have another crash?

gumby wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:Jay Williams said during the to zagS game last night that with a zags win they are #2 in the west and arizona is a 2 elsewhere. Stated the no offense meme and 3 bad losses as reasons.

Rubbish.

Zags score a bucket more per game. Did he have another crash?

Lol, gumby. I initially had a similar comment that I removed, since it wouldn't be professional of me to state.

Send those to me! I'll post 'em.

Alieberman wrote:

pc in NM wrote:I think the Cats have to win the Pac-12 tournament to get the #2 seed in the West

A #2 seed is locked up

We lock up #2 in west if we get to the finals.

We win and we probably get #1 Seed in West.

If we win, would be a strong argument for #1

ASUHATER! wrote:What basis is there for gonzaga to get the 2 ahead of us? They are 1 behind us in the rpi, have a much weaker sos, have lost more recently and....we beat them.

We have to win the Pac 12 tournament or we will be shipped out.

Catintheheat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:What basis is there for gonzaga to get the 2 ahead of us? They are 1 behind us in the rpi, have a much weaker sos, have lost more recently and....we beat them.

We have to win the Pac 12 tournament or we will be shipped out.

Only losing to Cal today would create that possibility. But hopefully this wont be in the discussion. HTH, SOS, and RPI all favour the Cats. Plus, while not great, if BYU doesnt get in, then the WCC was a 1 bid conference while the Pac is 3.

Catintheheat wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:What basis is there for gonzaga to get the 2 ahead of us? They are 1 behind us in the rpi, have a much weaker sos, have lost more recently and....we beat them.

We have to win the Pac 12 tournament or we will be shipped out.

I just don't see it. Would make no sense

If we lose today, we get shipped out. That would be three losses to teams hovering around #100 in the RPI and one that's #130. That's not great and would be hard to justify geographical preference over a team with only two losses, both to tourney teams.

But we're not losing today.

Chicat wrote: But we're not losing today.

Or tomorrow. Or Saturday.

I think the only way we get shipped out is if we lose before the final.

With the UVA loss they are predicted to drop to the last 1 seed out west. I'd rather have Villanova.

ChattyPaddy wrote:With the UVA loss they are predicted to drop to the last 1 seed out west. I'd rather have Villanova.

That's total horseshit if we win the Pac tourney. We should have that spot.

Cats need to play lights out in the second half.

splitsecond wrote:

ChattyPaddy wrote:With the UVA loss they are predicted to drop to the last 1 seed out west. I'd rather have Villanova.

That's total horseshit if we win the Pac tourney. We should have that spot.

Yeah would be carp if we are the 2 to Virginia if we have the same record but we won our tournament

Well I think we are a default 1 seed with a win tomorrow!

Real good night for us.

Arizona 1 and Duke 2 in the West would be sweet.

If UA and Wisconsin win out no way they should be denied 1 seeds, especially with both ACC teams not even making the conference finals.

ChattyPaddy wrote:If UA and Wisconsin win out no way they should be denied 1 seeds, especially with both ACC teams not even making the conference finals.

Heck, if both lose, Gonzaga's a 1-seed

Selection Sunday is going to be very interesting for #1s and 2s!

Kentucky obviously.... But then who?

I think Duke hangs on

If AZ, Villinova and Wisky all win.... I'd say Wisky is odd man out
Zaga needs 2 of 3 above to lose
I think Virginia slips to a 2

As of now the 1s have to be Kentucky, Villanova, Wisconsin and Arizona right?

But in reality the east coast media probably still has us as a 2 and duke or uva still as a 1.

Wisconsin is playing in a better conference than Arizona and has the most dominant player in CBB. That should count for something, right?

ASUHATER! wrote:As of now the 1s have to be Kentucky, Villanova, Wisconsin and Arizona right?

But in reality the east coast media probably still has us as a 2 and duke or uva still as a 1.

Jay Bilas sill has both UVA and Duke as 1's

Duke with 4 losses and one real bad one at home to Miami is definitely a candidate for a two seed.

I also think that with both Duke and UVA losing Kansas could find themselves a three seed if they lose tomorrow.

We win the tourny and we still get a 2 it's a damn joke.

The committee's job got tougher today.

Wisconsin #1 in the west.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... _jerrypalm

Irish27 wrote:Wisconsin #1 in the west.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... _jerrypalm

he can suck a big fat wet one

At this rate Utah will be a 5 seed.

Go Purdue.

ASUHATER! wrote:At this rate Utah will be a 5 seed.

Utah beats the shit out of inferior teams but is a completely different team when you get a tough squad in front of them. Their fall isn't helping our quest for a one seed. Oh well keep winning

Irish27 wrote:Wisconsin #1 in the west.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... _jerrypalm

Virginia still being a 1 seed is a complete joke. No way in hell that happens.

And even though it's Oregon and not Utah, it's ridiculous for us to still be a 2 seed if we win tomorrow.

is villanova a lock for a 1-seed if they beat xavier tmrw?

bracket trivia buffs, has the tournament ever had three "wildcats" as the top seeds? i'm assuming there's never been four 1-seeded wildcat teams.

Goddamn it, now Lunardi says we're a 2 seed out East with Villanova? What the hell? How come we're getting less and less-favorable brackets the more that we win?

qwertyus wrote:Goddamn it, now Lunardi says we're a 2 seed out East with Villanova? What the hell? How come we're getting less and less-favorable brackets the more that we win?

Wow, what? Not enough style points for Lunardi I guess. Win tomorrow and we're not getting shipped out. Even if we lose I can't imagine it.

"Of course, Wisconsin isn't done yet. And neither is Villanova. I'm not convinced Arizona can climb to the top line because their collection of losses is clearly the worst, and they also have the fewest quality wins. The Wildcats have been hurt by the relative lack of quality of their league."

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on- ... a?v=1&vc=1

None of these people speak for the selection committee.

Top two seeds tomorrow if chalk:

1 West Arizona
2 West Gonzaga

1 Midwest Wisconsin
2 Midwest Kansas

1 Southeast Kentucky
2 Southeast Duke

1 East Villanova
2 East Virginia

catgrad97 wrote:None of these people speak for the selection committee.

This is true. None of them even speak TO the committee. That's why their brackets don't match each other's and never match how the committee actually seeds. It's just their personal opinion.

catgrad97 wrote: 1 West Arizona
2 West Gonzaga

1 Midwest Wisconsin
2 Midwest Kansas

1 Southeast Kentucky
2 Southeast Duke

1 East Villanova
2 East Virginia

This setup makes the most sense, though I might switch Duke and KU.

Kentucky was guaranteed the Midwest 1 months ago.

The ACC conference tournament losses just aren't that big. We beat two non-tourney teams. UNC and ND are ranked. We are hurt by our conference and those bad losses. It seems like a big deal to win in Vegas, because we haven't won this thing since 2002. But to others, it isn't. Even Nova beat a ranked team. KU may beat three.

I wouldn't mind being paired with Virginia. They're weaker with hobbled Anderson. Not convinced Nova is a better match-up.

We say it every year. The rest of the conference hurts us. We rarely gain anything from the conference tournament, except for more Larry Scott jokes and hangovers.

Today, Lunardi has us as a #2 seed in the West; Virginia is the #1....

pc in NM wrote:Today, Lunardi has us as a #2 seed in the West; Virginia is the #1....

What a joke.

gumby wrote:The ACC conference tournament losses just aren't that big. We beat two non-tourney teams. UNC and ND are ranked. We are hurt by our conference and those bad losses. It seems like a big deal to win in Vegas, because we haven't won this thing since 2002. But to others, it isn't. Even Nova beat a ranked team. KU may beat three.

I wouldn't mind being paired with Virginia. They're weaker with hobbled Anderson. Not convinced Nova is a better match-up.

We say it every year. The rest of the conference hurts us. We rarely gain anything from the conference tournament, except for more Larry Scott jokes and hangovers.

I agree with everything here.

And since Purdue won't beat Wisconsin today, stability won't ensue. Arizona will be a 2-seed in the west against Villanova, Virginia, or Wisconsin. Arizona had its road win over Utah as a signature win that few could match. After Utah's loss at Washington and now their second loss to Oregon, that road win isn't as meaningful as it once was.

But I don't think there's a 1-seed out there that wants Arizona as a 2-seed.

pc in NM wrote:Today, Lunardi has us as a #2 seed in the West; Virginia is the #1....

Fine by me. If we're more deserving, we'll beat them. Have they even been west this year?