Bear Down Wildcats

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:52 am
He didn't even make the all defensive team that year. Absolutely unbelievable malfeasance.

god damn Aaron Gordon was somethin...i remember his chin nutting Gonzaga - AZ and Sean Miller blew Few/Lloyd/Gonzaga out 84-61 in the NCAA's in 2014 as the West #1 Seed.

Miller sure did have his moments

https://tucson.com/sports/basketball/co ... 963f4.html

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:47 am Some of y’all are naive when you can’t remember how these votes play themselves out.

Yup. Gary Payton Jr over Aaron Gordon for DPOY as well as Joe Young as POY over TJ McConnell. Pac-12 are literally stat whores when it comes to this.

???

PAC-12 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR

BACHYNSKI is the first Sun Devil to be voted Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year and is just one of six ASU student-athletes to receive an end-of-year award. The senior finished the regular season as the Pac-12 career leader in blocked shots with 309 over his four seasons with Arizona State. He also had three game-saving blocked shots at the buzzer that preserved ASU victories. Bachynski led the nation in blocks, averaging 4.23 per game, and was sixth in the Conference in rebounding, averaging 8.4 per ga

https://pac-12.com/article/2014/03/10/2 ... all-honors

Payton won in 14-15

https://pac-12.com/article/2015/03/09/2 ... all-honors

I could give two of all your shits about pac preseason ranks and teams.

I mean they have like 10 players in the all pac first teams. Lmao

even worse

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:09 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:47 am Some of y’all are naive when you can’t remember how these votes play themselves out.

Yup. Gary Payton Jr over Aaron Gordon for DPOY as well as Joe Young as POY over TJ McConnell. Pac-12 are literally stat whores when it comes to this.

???

PAC-12 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR

BACHYNSKI is the first Sun Devil to be voted Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year and is just one of six ASU student-athletes to receive an end-of-year award. The senior finished the regular season as the Pac-12 career leader in blocked shots with 309 over his four seasons with Arizona State. He also had three game-saving blocked shots at the buzzer that preserved ASU victories. Bachynski led the nation in blocks, averaging 4.23 per game, and was sixth in the Conference in rebounding, averaging 8.4 per ga

https://pac-12.com/article/2014/03/10/2 ... all-honors

Payton won in 14-15

https://pac-12.com/article/2015/03/09/2 ... all-honors

OMG Bachynski won that year, that's even worse. I was thinking of Rondae vs Payton the following year, my bad.

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:03 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:52 am
He didn't even make the all defensive team that year. Absolutely unbelievable malfeasance.

god damn Aaron Gordon was somethin...i remember his chin nutting Gonzaga - AZ and Sean Miller blew Few/Lloyd/Gonzaga out 84-61 in the NCAA's in 2014 as the West #1 Seed.

Miller sure did have his moments

https://tucson.com/sports/basketball/co ... 963f4.html

There might've been someone we'd recognize on Gonzaga's sideline for that game.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:25 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:09 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:47 am Some of y’all are naive when you can’t remember how these votes play themselves out.

Yup. Gary Payton Jr over Aaron Gordon for DPOY as well as Joe Young as POY over TJ McConnell. Pac-12 are literally stat whores when it comes to this.

???

PAC-12 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR

BACHYNSKI is the first Sun Devil to be voted Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year and is just one of six ASU student-athletes to receive an end-of-year award. The senior finished the regular season as the Pac-12 career leader in blocked shots with 309 over his four seasons with Arizona State. He also had three game-saving blocked shots at the buzzer that preserved ASU victories. Bachynski led the nation in blocks, averaging 4.23 per game, and was sixth in the Conference in rebounding, averaging 8.4 per ga

https://pac-12.com/article/2014/03/10/2 ... all-honors

Payton won in 14-15

https://pac-12.com/article/2015/03/09/2 ... all-honors

OMG Bachynski won that year, that's even worse. I was thinking of Rondae vs Payton the following year, my bad.

It's ridiculous we had AG, RHJ, Nick Johnson and TJ McConnell and zero of those guys won Pac 12 DPOY. I can't give that any logical explanation other than cancelling each other out.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:18 pm

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:03 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:52 am
He didn't even make the all defensive team that year. Absolutely unbelievable malfeasance.

god damn Aaron Gordon was somethin...i remember his chin nutting Gonzaga - AZ and Sean Miller blew Few/Lloyd/Gonzaga out 84-61 in the NCAA's in 2014 as the West #1 Seed.

Miller sure did have his moments

https://tucson.com/sports/basketball/co ... 963f4.html

There might've been someone we'd recognize on Gonzaga's sideline for that game.

Kyle Dranginis?

Brings up a question. Dalen Terry or RHJ, who would you draft first if you were a GM and why. They are a lot alike but I think Terry shoots it better and certainly see’s the court better and handles it better. RHJ rebounded better and probably was a slightly better defender

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:18 pm

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:03 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:52 am
He didn't even make the all defensive team that year. Absolutely unbelievable malfeasance.

god damn Aaron Gordon was somethin...i remember his chin nutting Gonzaga - AZ and Sean Miller blew Few/Lloyd/Gonzaga out 84-61 in the NCAA's in 2014 as the West #1 Seed.

Miller sure did have his moments

https://tucson.com/sports/basketball/co ... 963f4.html

There might've been someone we'd recognize on Gonzaga's sideline for that game.

You're talking about Rem Bakamus right

azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:56 pm Brings up a question. Dalen Terry or RHJ, who would you draft first if you were a GM and why. They are a lot alike but I think Terry shoots it better and certainly see’s the court better and handles it better. RHJ rebounded better and probably was a slightly better defender

Rondae was a far better defender (he could truly guard anyone at any time) but Terry is better at literally everything else

Terry is not the player of Jefferson's quality at this point - maybe we can revisit it as a junior but he needs a lot of maturity, imo.

he reminds more of Richard Jefferson in terms of maturity and personality, if he fixes that jump shot and learns to chill a bit and own being good enough he could be lottery next season playing and leading a stacked team.

azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:56 pm Brings up a question. Dalen Terry or RHJ, who would you draft first if you were a GM and why. They are a lot alike but I think Terry shoots it better and certainly see’s the court better and handles it better. RHJ rebounded better and probably was a slightly better defender

Terry.

Rondae's lack of skills on the wing resulted in having to be a small 4

Terry has more in common with Iggy, imo.

97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:25 pm if he fixes that jump shot and learns to chill a bit and own being good enough he could be lottery next season playing and leading a stacked team.

Watching D Terry play last year... and then reading this a year later... is making my head spin.

At no point last year did I ever imagine reading that D Terry could be a lottery pick..... his improvement from year 1-2 has just been amazing.

Year 3 could be something special

97cats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:25 pm Terry is not the player of Jefferson's quality at this point - maybe we can revisit it as a junior but he needs a lot of maturity, imo.

he reminds more of Richard Jefferson in terms of maturity and personality, if he fixes that jump shot and learns to chill a bit and own being good enough he could be lottery next season playing and leading a stacked team.

I see a ton of growth in Terry as the season is progressing - very much enjoying watching him mature on the court. Can't wait to see what he looks like as a junior especially with an offseason under the direction of this coaching staff.

The jumpshot is the number one spot for improvement for next year but it's been good to see him accept that he's a poor jump shooter and focus on the other areas he can impact the game.

One thing I'd like for him to do this season though: get to the line more. His free throw rate is way down, owing to his penchant for making the extra pass rather than forcing it. With his length... I'd like to see him force some more attacks at the rim and make the defense foul him. That'd be an efficient way for him to increase his points and impact the game offensively.

And DT has a good stroke at the FT line.

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:43 amhe does have a tendency to want to hang on the rim to protect himself and gets carried away sometimes

That tech was garbage. I couldn't figure out if he kept talking to our fans or was getting chippy with UW fans. A lot of talking going on that the refs ignored this game

32mins - 20pts - 6-14fg - 2-6(3pt) - 6-6ft - 2rb - 1a - 2st - 0blk - 0to

three 20pt games in a row - i think Mathurin is poised to have his best home game of the year Saturday evening at McKale Center against Oregon.

97cats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:48 pm 32mins - 20pts - 6-14fg - 2-6(3pt) - 6-6ft - 2rb - 1a - 2st - 0blk - 0to

three 20pt games in a row - i think Mathurin is poised to have his best home game of the year Saturday evening at McKale Center against Oregon and cement his lock on Pac12 POY.

Finished it for you...

i like that, ECC

It’s actually a little nuts to me BM isn’t the clear front runner for the award at this point. The last couple weeks have made it clear he’s POY, but sure I’m biased.

Matt said last night that it was pretty much a lock thay BM would win POY. Of course he may be biased as well

At this point it really seems like Benn’s biggest competition for POY is Tubelis

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:52 am At this point it really seems like Benn’s biggest competition for POY is Tubelis

Different subject, but Matt also said that Ballo should be be "6th Man of the Year"

MountainCat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:51 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:52 am At this point it really seems like Benn’s biggest competition for POY is Tubelis

Different subject, but Matt also said that Ballo should be be "6th Man of the Year"

He actually said it was tough between Pelle and Ballo and if he had to choose it would be Ballo.

Every passing game Ballo is making a real push. His line was 7/9/2 blocks - and that sweet no look pass to C-Lo as well.

Man, has that guy improved before our very eyes...

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:06 am
He actually said it was tough between Pelle and Ballo and if he had to choose it would be Ballo.

Every passing game Ballo is making a real push. His line was 7/9/2 blocks - and that sweet no look pass to C-Lo as well.

Man, has that guy improved before our very eyes...

As a fan of a college program... there is nothing better to witness.

Ballo = Honorable Mention All Pac12

97cats wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:18 am Ballo = Honorable Mention All Pac12

…and Pelle?

Is it fathomable that 6 of our 8 rotation players get All Pac 12 First Team/Second Team/HM honors?

Excluding Kriisa and Kier.

97cats wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:18 am Ballo = Honorable Mention All Pac12

And if anyone predicted this before the season, they'd be a liar.

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:34 am

97cats wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:18 am Ballo = Honorable Mention All Pac12

…and Pelle?

Is it fathomable that 6 of our 8 rotation players get All Pac 12 First Team/Second Team/HM honors?

Excluding Kriisa and Kier.

This is why the future seems so bright right now, even with the recruiting taking a little while to pick back up. If we only lose Mathurin, our roster is LOADED for next season.

Yes it is, I see Terry really stepping out up next year, would be great if he got better from 3. He's already looking better, but I would cry if he was a 40% from 3 guy next year. On top of what he already does, he would be lottery.

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:34 am

97cats wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:18 am Ballo = Honorable Mention All Pac12

…and Pelle?

Is it fathomable that 6 of our 8 rotation players get All Pac 12 First Team/Second Team/HM honors?

Excluding Kriisa and Kier.

Kriisa is the conference's assist leader.

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:28 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:34 am

97cats wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:18 am Ballo = Honorable Mention All Pac12

…and Pelle?

Is it fathomable that 6 of our 8 rotation players get All Pac 12 First Team/Second Team/HM honors?

Excluding Kriisa and Kier.

Kriisa is the conference's assist leader.

You think he makes all Pac? I don’t.

I think AZ has like 4 of the top 20 in assists....

perfect game for Mathurin to make his case for 1st Team All-American today

PAC12 POY? I think so

9-17, 4-7 (3's), 24 pts, 2-4 fts, 7 reb's, 0 stl's, 0 to's

Beat me too it. Yes, that performance should have locked it up.

Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and pettiness of the people who vote for that award.

I promise to fall on my sword and not pick Benn As Fuck for the rest of 2022. That way we will get to the FF.

Great game by BM… I just don’t understand his ft issues. It seems like he should be automatic…

Pretty sure Quincy Guerrier is the Pac POY, guys.

Smile, young man.

97cats wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:44 pm perfect game for Mathurin to make his case for 1st Team All-American today

36min - 24pts - 9-17fg - 4-7(3pt) - 2-4ft - 7rb - 5a - 0st - 0blk - 0to

third game in a row with zero turnovers & eight assists over that span - impressive

Pac 12 POY.

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:43 am

97cats wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:44 pm perfect game for Mathurin to make his case for 1st Team All-American today

36min - 24pts - 9-17fg - 4-7(3pt) - 2-4ft - 7rb - 5a - 0st - 0blk - 0to

third game in a row with zero turnovers & eight assists over that span - impressive

26.7 Bird Score. KenPom MVP - his 7th of the season.

Mathurin last night.