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Disagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pmYou're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
I was being facetious. I have no idea what the committee might be thinking. Apparently PHX does.dmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:50 pmDisagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pmYou're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
This is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.dmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:50 pmDisagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pmYou're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
They 100% won't
Wrong again PHXCATS.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:57 pmThis is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.dmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:50 pmDisagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pmYou're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference
Procedures for Placing the Teams into the Bracket
1. The committee will place the four No. 1 seeds in each of the four regions, thus determining the Final Four semifinals pairings (overall 1 vs. 4; 2 vs. 3). The overall No. 1 seed has the opportunity to select its preferred first- and second-round site and preferred region.
2. The committee will then place the No. 2 seeds in each region in true seed list order. The committee may relax the principle of keeping teams as close to their area of natural interest for seeding teams on the No. 2 line to avoid, for example, the overall No. 5 seed being sent to the same region as the overall No. 1 seed. The committee will not compromise the principle of keeping teams from the same conference in separate regions.
3. The committee will then place the No. 3 seeds in each region in true seed list order.
4. The committee will then place the No. 4 seeds in each region in true seed list order.
5. After the top four seed lines have been assigned, the committee will review the relative strengths of the regions by adding the “true seed” numbers in each region to determine if any severe numerical imbalance exists. Generally, no more than five points should separate the lowest and highest total.
6. In “true seed” order, the committee then assigns each team (and, therefore, all teams in its bracket group—e.g., seeds 1, 8, 9, 16) to first-/second-round sites.
7. The committee will then place seeds Nos. 5-16 in the bracket, per the principles. The four teams assigned to the seed line, 5 through 16, will have the same numerical value.
Additional Considerations
1. If possible, rematches of non-conference regular-season games should be avoided in the First Four and first round. As a secondary consideration, the committee will attempt to avoid potential rematches from non-conference regular-season games in the second round. The committee will not consider moving teams up or down its true seed line to avoid non-conference rematches.
2. If possible, after examining the previous two years’ brackets, teams will not be moved out of its natural region or geographic area an inordinate number of times.
3. If possible, rematches from the previous tournament should be avoided in the First Four and first round.
You clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put outdmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:02 pmWrong again PHXCATS.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:57 pmThis is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.dmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:50 pmDisagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pmYou're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference
In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.
GO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:45 pmYou clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put outdmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:02 pmWrong again PHXCATS.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:57 pmThis is not correct. 4 does not automatically play 5. It all location and conferences.dmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:50 pmDisagree. At the moment I think the UA/Tennessee are #4/#5 (or reverse of that) which absolutely means that they would be placed in the same bracket Tennessee would most certainly rather be in the UA's bracket than Houstons.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pm
You're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
5 will play in the location closest to them as long as the 1 seed in that region is not in the same conference
In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.
From the actual selection committee a few weeks agodmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:58 pmGO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:45 pmYou clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put outdmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:02 pmWrong again PHXCATS.
In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.
If Houston is the number 1 overall seed they can express an interest in the region they play.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:20 pmYou're not looking at this through the eyes of the committee, Alie.
That was WEEKS ago (before our loss to WSU at home). The one constant in this game is that very little stays the same. You are an excellent example of linear thinking.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:16 pmFrom the actual selection committee a few weeks agodmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:58 pmGO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:45 pmYou clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put outdmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:02 pmWrong again PHXCATS.
In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.
Overall seed in parentheses
Midwest
1-(1) Purdue
2-(6) Tennessee
3-(10) Baylor
4-(14) SDSU
West
1-(4) Arizona
2-(8) Kansas
3-(12) Duke
4-(13) Auburn
East
1-(2) UConn
2-(5) UNC
3-(11) Iowa St
4-(16) Wisconsin
South
1-(3) Houston
2-(7) Marquette
3-(9) Alabama
4-(15) Illinois
https://youtu.be/E-rPZwkYyBc?si=5JW6cmHPPdEhbZKH
So yeah.....
The rankings in parentheses were the selection committee's overall rankings at the time. Not todaydmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:16 pmThat was WEEKS ago (before our loss to WSU at home). The one constant in this game is that very little stays the same. You are an excellent example of linear thinking.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:16 pmFrom the actual selection committee a few weeks agodmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:58 pmGO back and read the guidelines posted by AZGREG.........Its obvious that you don't understand them.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:45 pmYou clearly didn't watch the mock draft show the NCAA put outdmjcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:02 pm
Wrong again PHXCATS.
In this case there is only 1 #1 (or #2) seed located in the west (the UA). This means that one of the other #2/#1 seeds have to be shipped out west. Since the UA/Tenn are #4/#5 in almost all brackets pairing the two of them make perfect sense.
Overall seed in parentheses
Midwest
1-(1) Purdue
2-(6) Tennessee
3-(10) Baylor
4-(14) SDSU
West
1-(4) Arizona
2-(8) Kansas
3-(12) Duke
4-(13) Auburn
East
1-(2) UConn
2-(5) UNC
3-(11) Iowa St
4-(16) Wisconsin
South
1-(3) Houston
2-(7) Marquette
3-(9) Alabama
4-(15) Illinois
https://youtu.be/E-rPZwkYyBc?si=5JW6cmHPPdEhbZKH
So yeah.....
Personally, I'd rather have Tennessee than Iowa St. The little bit I've seen of Iowa St. reminds me a lot of Houston, who is another team I don't want anything to do with.
"ESPN bracket guru Joe Lunardi said on ESPN that he expected the Wildcats would hang on to the final No. 1 seed if they don't lose before Selection Sunday.
'Arizona and Tennessee and, to a lesser extent, North Carolina and Marquette, are all in contention for the last No. 1 seed position,' Lunardi said. 'But Arizona is going to have to lose (to not get it) in part because they're the incumbent on that line (from the early reveal) and also because I think the committee over the years has shown that — all things being equal — it likes a team from out West to lead the West Region bracket.'"
How is it iffy?Merkin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:16 pm Obviously hard to argue with Lunardi, but if Tennessee wins out that would be 3 Quad 1 wins in a row over ranked teams.
And UA winning both in LA is iffy, unless of course Boswell plays like he has the last 2 games. UA needs to win out, and Tennessee needs to lose one.
Uhhh....sweeping the LA has ALWAYS been an iffy proposition.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:04 pmHow is it iffy?Merkin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:16 pm Obviously hard to argue with Lunardi, but if Tennessee wins out that would be 3 Quad 1 wins in a row over ranked teams.
And UA winning both in LA is iffy, unless of course Boswell plays like he has the last 2 games. UA needs to win out, and Tennessee needs to lose one.
We're their Super Bowl. It's been this way for a while, but it's especially true when they're having down years, which happens pretty consistently with that team.
We're a 2 seed though on Bracket Matrix, Net still has us a 1. Ultimately, all we can do is sweep the LA schools and hope that Tennessee & UNC both trip up this week. I don't think the conference championships have much bearing on the seeds. All I ask is that we take care of business. Both UCLA & USC have losing records so losing to either of them seals our fate as a 2 seedAlieberman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:05 am Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1
Bracket Matrix now has Tennessee as the clear #1 (overall #4) and the UA as a #2 seed (#5 overall).Alieberman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:05 am Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1
All I think this tells us is that the last #1 seed remains up for grabs. Tennessee still has to take care of business this week and in their league tourney, as do we.dmjcat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:25 pmBracket Matrix now has Tennessee as the clear #1 (overall #4) and the UA as a #2 seed (#5 overall).Alieberman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:05 am Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1
That would put Tennessee as the #1 seed in the west and the UA as the #2........Don't anyone tell PHXCATS as he will have a heart attack as he has already declared that this can't happen.
I'm going to be a big time South Carolina fan tonight.
No. Not at what was saiddmjcat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:25 pmBracket Matrix now has Tennessee as the clear #1 (overall #4) and the UA as a #2 seed (#5 overall).Alieberman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:05 am Looking at the Bracket Matrix this morning- AZ and Tennessee are in a statistical tie. Both at 1.5... meaning half of ratings has AZ as a 1 other half has Tenn as a 1
That would put Tennessee as the #1 seed in the west and the UA as the #2........Don't anyone tell PHXCATS as he will have a heart attack as he has already declared that this can't happen.
I'm going to be a big time South Carolina fan tonight.
#16 University of Maryland-Baltimore County beat #1 Tony Bennett's Virginia a few years ago.
Agreed.TheCat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:19 pm Guys there are a minimum of 3-5 games left. Who really cares if we are a 1 or 2 seed since we won't be playing the other team until the elite 8 if seeds hold true. It makes no difference. If Ariz can't beat a 15 and 7 to get there it won't matter. Anyone can win from any seed in the tourney. Most of these teams will have won their conference or tournaments and will be tough outs. Seeding has never held a lot of value to me....matchups and venue are what matters most to me.
Tennessee has looked very good the last few weeks.dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:58 pmTennessee's high ball screen defense stymied the hell out of them.