The 2021-2022 Season Thread

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84Cat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:25 am Good for the players but this will make keeping teams intact 10 times worse.
Pretty sure this is a one time rule, not permanent.
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gronk4heisman wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:36 am
84Cat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:25 am Good for the players but this will make keeping teams intact 10 times worse.
Pretty sure this is a one time rule, not permanent.
No, it's a full on change. It would mean the first time a player transfers, they're immediately eligible at the new school.

This is different from this summer's blanket waiver for Covid. The blanket waiver was a one time Covid thing. This is going forward for all first time transfers.
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I'm all for Lloyd's kid transferring to UA from GCU as a walk-on, but if he gets a schollie like RichRod's kid did I will lose my shit.
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Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:43 pm I'm all for Lloyd's kid transferring to UA from GCU as a walk-on, but if he gets a schollie like RichRod's kid did I will lose my shit.
Unless it's a Pastner situation, where the UA may have several scholies open, so give it to him on a one year basis. He might already be an Arizona resident, and using his father's UA discount may not really need a scholie at that.
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I do wonder why you'd want to go to college and every time you turn around there's your dad.
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Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:43 pm I'm all for Lloyd's kid transferring to UA from GCU as a walk-on, but if he gets a schollie like RichRod's kid did I will lose my shit.
Doesn't family of university employees get free tuition? Is there a minimum employment length?

I know nothing about how UofA handles this but most of the colleges and universities in michigan that I am aware of, allow immediate family of faculty and staff to attend free.
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Don’t think it’s free, but it used to be family of faculty only paid 25 percent of instate tuition.

Either way, a great deal.
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There you go-

Dependent Children: Eligible dependent children who register for 1 or more credit hours will pay 25% of resident tuition.
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Pretty sure he said at the press conference his son is staying at GCU and wants to got watch games.
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MountainCat wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:02 am Don’t think it’s free, but it used to be family of faculty only paid 25 percent of instate tuition.

Either way, a great deal.
It's basically free... and it's why my kids are going to an Arizona State school (and why my wife needs to keep her job!)
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One of my sisters in laws works at the UA in the key shop, and put her daughter through school very cheaply.
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Alieberman wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:00 am
MountainCat wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:02 am Don’t think it’s free, but it used to be family of faculty only paid 25 percent of instate tuition.

Either way, a great deal.
It's basically free... and it's why my kids are going to an Arizona State school (and why my wife needs to keep her job!)

Better be "Arizona state school" and not "Arizona State school" Ari. :D

I had one go to NAU and one UofA. No Sparky or mustard/ketchup colors allowed in the house.
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UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:12 am
Alieberman wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:00 am
MountainCat wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:02 am Don’t think it’s free, but it used to be family of faculty only paid 25 percent of instate tuition.

Either way, a great deal.
It's basically free... and it's why my kids are going to an Arizona State school (and why my wife needs to keep her job!)

Better be "Arizona state school" and not "Arizona State school" Ari. :D

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I thought there were only 2 "school" choices in Arizona?
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Not sure if ASU being #1 in STDs is a good marketing tool or not for the horny young generation.


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STD's or not, pics like that are a good marketing tool though! There was a time in my life where I would've rolled the dice to be sandwiched between those 2.
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mofo wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:10 pm STD's or not, pics like that are a good marketing tool though! There was a time in my life where I would've rolled the dice to be sandwiched between those 2.
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Has anyone heard of Kriisa actually put his name in the portal?
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Frybry02 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:22 pm Has anyone heard of Kriisa actually put his name in the portal?
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Alieberman wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:29 pm
Frybry02 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:22 pm Has anyone heard of Kriisa actually put his name in the portal?
Just saw Scheer tweeted he is indeed in
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I stand corrected.
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And so is Akinjo
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Frybry02 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:31 pm
Alieberman wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:29 pm
Frybry02 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:22 pm Has anyone heard of Kriisa actually put his name in the portal?
Just saw Scheer tweeted he is indeed in
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Well let’s hope they decide to stay. Yikes.
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Let's see, Baker is gone, Brown is gone, Akinjo maybe gone & Kerr maybe gone. Tyty is a must get
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Tyty and Kerr.
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TucsonClip wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:48 pm Tyty and Kerr.
Tyty's potential top programs are... Creighton, Baylor, Kansas, UCLA, Kentucky, and Auburn.

Does Tommy already have his bag man on speed dial? :lol:
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Tommy has some work to do.
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Losing Akinjo would really, really suck. Is he even open to returning, or does this mean he’s gonzo?

Losing Mathurin will hurt more.

Losing both means our team will be a major work in progress next season (ie: not making the tourney).
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There are so many good players in the portal, I am not worried. Recruiting is so much different now. Teams can get much better just from the transfer portal.
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Yea obviously we'd rather keep the good players we have but people forget that since anyone can transfer penalty free...we could get incoming guys as well.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

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ASUHATER! wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:47 pm Yea obviously we'd rather keep the good players we have but people forget that since anyone can transfer penalty free...we could get incoming guys as well.
Generally I’d like to keep the guys we have but as you say, a potential starting spot at a place like Arizona will get lots of looks.
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I completely understand the culture has changed and that the transfer "market" is basically like college hoops free agency.

But Akinjo is good. Would prefer to keep him.
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SCCats wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:03 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:47 pm Yea obviously we'd rather keep the good players we have but people forget that since anyone can transfer penalty free...we could get incoming guys as well.
Generally I’d like to keep the guys we have but as you say, a potential starting spot at a place like Arizona will get lots of looks.
The problem is Lloyd is fighting the lack of time. Many of the top transfers are off the board. Lloyd has an uphill battle in trying to make an impression on The remaining top transfers.
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I don't even want to attempt to do a scholarship count at this point. We have a ton of minutes available at the guard spots. Not worried at all.
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If the rumors are true that Robbins imposed the post season ban to make it easier to fire Miller... I’m guessing these players have heard these whispers as well.

Why the hell should they stay?
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In addition to the self-imposed post-season ban, forgive me if this has already been discussed:

Robbins sealing the NCAA charges, which the university was ultimately forced to unseal. And when that happened, there was nothing new to see. The only conceivable purpose was to create the impression that there WAS something to hide, and then to create an additional negative news cycle after the unnecessary delay.

It's hard to suspect a motive other than justifying the tourney ban and undermining Miller and the program.

Like Alieberman said, players and their circles have these suspicions, too. And then they learn about the hire over Twitter. It's all a bit much, and entirely consistent with the patern of deception uncovered in the furlough rollout and the Ashford debacle - all of this during the same academic year.
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Longhorned wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:04 pm In addition to the self-imposed post-season ban, forgive me if this has already been discussed:

Robbins sealing the NCAA charges, which the university was ultimately forced to unseal. And when that happened, there was nothing new to see. The only conceivable purpose was to create the impression that there WAS something to hide, and then to create an additional negative news cycle after the unnecessary delay.

It's hard to suspect a motive other than justifying the tourney ban and undermining Miller and the program.

Like Alieberman said, players and their circles have these suspicions, too. And then they learn about the hire over Twitter. It's all a bit much.
There’s also been some rumblings that he didn’t want anyone to see that his personal actions and Heeke’s meddling were listed as two separate aggravating factors in one of the Level 1’s. Those two, in some ways, looked worse than Miller, who was fit with failure to monitor his staff. So, on top of the speculation making Miller look worse in the media, he was hiding his own actions.

If I were those players, I would have a hard time putting on an Arizona jersey after the way they’ve been treated by Arizona.
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Frybry02 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:51 pm
SCCats wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:03 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:47 pm Yea obviously we'd rather keep the good players we have but people forget that since anyone can transfer penalty free...we could get incoming guys as well.
Generally I’d like to keep the guys we have but as you say, a potential starting spot at a place like Arizona will get lots of looks.
The problem is Lloyd is fighting the lack of time. Many of the top transfers are off the board. Lloyd has an uphill battle in trying to make an impression on The remaining top transfers.
My god there are still so many high quality transfers out there and the number is only going to continue to grow.

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Any kids in transfer portal we know we're going after?
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I mean...who cares? The roster can only be worse next season from where it was projected to be. Lloyd will need to prove it with his own guys regardless.
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eoe wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:32 am I mean...who cares? The roster can only be worse next season from where it was projected to be. Lloyd will need to prove it with his own guys regardless.
I tell you who cares. The players - especially the ones from foreign countries who venture all the way to Tucson and entrusted Miller and his staff to help them adjust to attending school and playing big time D1 basketball in a foreign country and guiding them to attain their goals. Then we have an administration that totally fucks them over and they are left holding the bag and figuring out what to do next. The whole thing just stinks.

Yeah, the Arizona program will be just fine moving forward and CTL will need to assemble his own team to coincide with how he wants to play. I get that. But I feel bad for the current players because it's not what they signed up for and this could have been avoided if we didn't have sneaky douchebags like Robbins and Heeke.
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azgreg wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:43 pm
What other coach has left?
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Peters is almost certainly gone. No reason he would be retained.
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