Bear Down Wildcats

PHXCATS wrote:Two missed tournaments

Crap, I think I mentally blocked out the disappointment that was 2011-12.

Who really cares what our rank is on some ESPN poll. I care about one number right now and that is the Ws. In March I will care about the seed and staying in the West. Everything else is relatively irrelevant.

Bacon, one mans opinion in espns silly poll isnt a huge deal. but it's just an example of continued disregard and a lack of respect that has gone on by many of the same dudes for years. Whether we want to believe it or not, nobody watches every game, but a lot of important people who make important decisions, be it selection committees or recruits themselves base some of their decisions on what they take to be fact from these clowns who make broad statements based on the one game theyve seen.

PHXCats, that much of a variance between the AP Poll, the coaches poll, and all of Katz' colleagues (all have us in the 8 or 9 to 15 range) makes Katz look like the "Russian judge."

Again, you act like i wasnt saying the 10-14 range is more than fair. I acknowledged we havent done anything to prove we belong in the top 10. But, weve done enuff and have enuff to show why we shouldnt be outside the top 20

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... 25-and-one" target="_blank

Kentucky (6-0)
Maryland (5-0)
Michigan State (6-0)
Kansas (4-1)
Iowa State (4-0)
Oklahoma (3-0)
Villanova (6-0)
North Carolina (5-1)
Virginia (5-1)
Duke (5-1)
Purdue (5-0)
Xavier (6-0)
Syracuse (6-0)
Texas A&M (6-1)
Gonzaga (4-1)
Vanderbilt (5-1)
Oregon (5-0)
Baylor (4-1)
SMU (3-0)
Cincinnati (6-0)
West Virginia (6-0)
Miami (5-1)
Connecticut (4-2)
Butler (3-1)
Louisville (4-0)
Valparaiso (6-1)

In: West Virginia
Out: Arizona

That's pretty funny.

Chicat wrote:That's pretty funny.

Wow, some dickheads just waiting to drop arizona out for a loss to a legit tourney team.

They must write for a Philly rag too.

Don't have Providence ranked either

Maybe they have seen the other struggles in wins this season? After the last two days I don't see a top 25 team yet.

Merkin wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... 25-and-one

Kentucky (6-0)
Maryland (5-0)
Michigan State (6-0)
Kansas (4-1)
Iowa State (4-0)
Oklahoma (3-0)
Villanova (6-0)
North Carolina (5-1)
Virginia (5-1)
Duke (5-1)
Purdue (5-0)
Xavier (6-0)
Syracuse (6-0)
Texas A&M (6-1)
Gonzaga (4-1)
Vanderbilt (5-1)
Oregon (5-0)
Baylor (4-1)
SMU (3-0)
Cincinnati (6-0)
West Virginia (6-0)
Miami (5-1)
Connecticut (4-2)
Butler (3-1)
Louisville (4-0)
Valparaiso (6-1)

In: West Virginia
Out: Arizona

Wonder how early ranking change affects recruiting?

Lmao. This is the shit im talking about. Arizona loses its 2nd most important piece, loses to a tournament team on a neutral site and drops off the map. Other programs do the same, its "well they didn't have _____." And in games they struggle for them it's "a win is a win" and us its, man they just arent good. Parrish has always been a dumbass though. We should still be in that 20-25 range with the one loss

rgdeuce wrote:Lmao. This is the shit im talking about. Arizona loses its 2nd most important piece, loses to a tournament team on a neutral site and drops off the map. Other programs do the same, its "well they didn't have _____." And in games they struggle for them it's "a win is a win" and us its, man they just arent good. Parrish has always been a dumbass though. We should still be in that 20-25 range with the one loss

Well no other team in the polls got taken to OT by a team as bad as Santa Clara either..... People calling it out for what it is doesnt mean they are out to get U of A or don't respect U of A.

Is phxcats post about how our (good) football attendance caused the loss?

PHXCATS wrote:

rgdeuce wrote:Lmao. This is the shit im talking about. Arizona loses its 2nd most important piece, loses to a tournament team on a neutral site and drops off the map. Other programs do the same, its "well they didn't have _____." And in games they struggle for them it's "a win is a win" and us its, man they just arent good. Parrish has always been a dumbass though. We should still be in that 20-25 range with the one loss

Well no other team in the polls got taken to OT by a team as bad as Santa Clara either..... People calling it out for what it is doesnt mean they are out to get U of A or don't respect U of A.

Like Maryland moving up to number 2 when they needed a late rally to beat 1-4 Rider (win vs Houston Baptist) at home after being down 14? I dont think they were missing their second best piece or any piece in that one either

Fuck You, east coast dickheads.

It's a double slap in the face. We lose Zeus for most of the second half vs Santa Clara and win despite an ungodly effort by #23.

We don't have Zeus vs a 5 and 0 Providence team and lose at the end. They want to drop us from 11 to out of the fucking poll? And then not even rank a 6 and 0 Providence team?

They are basically saying "..we don't think you're that good to begin with, Arizona. And neither are you, Providence.."

I hope Providence destroys Mich State. I hope Dunn drops 40 on them.

rgdeuce wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

rgdeuce wrote:Lmao. This is the shit im talking about. Arizona loses its 2nd most important piece, loses to a tournament team on a neutral site and drops off the map. Other programs do the same, its "well they didn't have _____." And in games they struggle for them it's "a win is a win" and us its, man they just arent good. Parrish has always been a dumbass though. We should still be in that 20-25 range with the one loss

Well no other team in the polls got taken to OT by a team as bad as Santa Clara either..... People calling it out for what it is doesnt mean they are out to get U of A or don't respect U of A.

Like Maryland moving up to number 2 when they needed a late rally to beat 1-4 Rider (win vs Houston Baptist) at home after being down 14? I dont think they were missing their second best piece or any piece in that one either

Didn't go to OT did it. Did Maryland get saved by butterflies?

Why should that matter? A struggle against a crap team is a struggle against a crap team. Our game was without our second best player, they were all healthy. Ours was on a neutral floor, theirs was at home. That alone offsets your "overtime"

Zues was injured at the end of regulation. Face it, UA has struggled this year, who cares what Marlyand did? UA does not deserve to be ranked right now after stinking up the joint this weekend and playing awful all year compared to what they should be except for one game.

Since when do polls come out on Saturday?

UAEebs86 wrote:Since when do polls come out on Saturday?

It is only a few CBS writers. Not the real poll.

PHXCATS wrote:Zues was injured at the end of regulation. Face it, UA has struggled this year, who cares what Marlyand did? UA does not deserve to be ranked right now after stinking up the joint this weekend and playing awful all year compared to what they should be except for one game.

Are you just here to play devil's advocate? No, he wasn't out the whole game, but there was still 6 or 7 minutes left when he went down, which is right around where we wear teams out rather than scrambling to fill huge voids.

And U of A has struggled all year? Really? Beating lower level teams by: 18, 30, and 19, and then Boise State by 10 on a night where two guys couldnt miss. Michigan State is playing better than just about anyone and they won by 10 and Duncan and Webb were human that game. Boise St had a 7 point lead in the game and didnt really gain control til Valentine hit five straight threes.

All things considered, you wipe out this tournament, with pretty much a completely new team that hasn't played together, the team has far from struggled

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/ba ... ches-poll/" target="_blank

14th not bad.

Gonzaga (12) game going to be even more interesting now.

Dropped 8 spots to 19 in the ap poll

Such a steep drop is a bit of surprise. But this is AZ, not KY or KS or Duke. If one of those squads loses a tight game without a starting center to a team now in the top 25, they aren't dropping 8 spots.

Up to 12 in the coaches poll.

Duke and Maryland getting first place votes . . . . why? Those SIDs need to get their shit together.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings" target="_blank

And up to #12 in the AP.

Chicat wrote:And up to #12 in the AP.

We're 13 in the AP.

Just curious, has there been a better road win in college bball yet this season?

To bad we couldn't get that Providence game as I would love to see how we played against an Izzo team

Beachcat97 wrote:

Chicat wrote:And up to #12 in the AP.

We're 13 in the AP.

Yep, my bad. Typo.

azcat49 wrote:Just curious, has there been a better road win in college bball yet this season?

Maybe Butler beating Cincinnati.

azcat49 wrote:Just curious, has there been a better road win in college bball yet this season?

To bad we couldn't get that Providence game as I would love to see how we played against an Izzo team

If there has been, I can't think of it. Lots of good neutral court wins, but as for a true road win, going into Spokane and getting the victory is pretty damn impressive, especially sans Zeus. I don't expect Gonzaga to lose another game at home this season.

Well #4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 16 and 22 lost yesterday. We're #13. Should potentially move back to the top 10.

ASUHATER! wrote:Well #4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 16 and 22 lost yesterday. We're #13. Should potentially move back to the top 10.

good post and as I was watching these teams lose I kept thinking, how many of these two loss teams will still be ranked ahead of AZ??

97cats wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Well #4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 16 and 22 lost yesterday. We're #13. Should potentially move back to the top 10.

good post and as I was watching these teams lose I kept thinking, how many of these two loss teams will still be ranked ahead of AZ??

Kentucky for sure. They probably won't fall past #7.

Duke will.

Yeah I think we'll probably wind up at 11

We should jump both Duke and Kentucky. Neither of them look anything close to a top-10 and are regressing already. Purdue we should probably pass and we should be near Iowa State.

We will be #11 but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't even move up one spot.

Also after our UNLV win we dropped 4 spots in KenPom. We are not reflecting well in his algorithim this year - feels weird.

Duke will move up 1 spot. Grayson Allen was sick and they still almost won!

cause the teams we've played so far collectively have sucked -- 7 Pac12 teams outside of AZ are in the Kenpom top 50 with Cal checking in at 51 today.

If the CATS play well in conf (especially on the road) those metrics will improve.

dcZONAfan wrote:Duke will move up 1 spot. Grayson Allen was sick and they still almost won!

Wildcats this morning:

#14 Sagarin
#16 Pomeroy
#17 RPI Forecast

Starting to get pretty close agreement with the reputable computer guys.

dcZONAfan wrote:Duke will move up 1 spot. Grayson Allen was sick and they still almost won!

And they were playing at a neutral site ( ), so...

Perhaps up two spots??

SCCats wrote:

dcZONAfan wrote:Duke will move up 1 spot. Grayson Allen was sick and they still almost won!

And they were playing at a neutral site ( ), so...

Perhaps up two spots??

Plus it was an overtime loss. Three spots?

carolinacat wrote:

SCCats wrote:

dcZONAfan wrote:Duke will move up 1 spot. Grayson Allen was sick and they still almost won!

And they were playing at a neutral site ( ), so...

Perhaps up two spots??

Plus it was an overtime loss. Three spots?

AND it was their first game playing without Amile Jefferson. That's 4 spots, no doubt. Top 5 ranking guaranteed

They always rank AZ as low as possible, but at least they did not omit them as CBS Sports did earlier.
Duke and KY are both still ranked higher after a good (???) loss, as predicted in this thread.

17. Arizona
Record: 11-1
Previous rank: 17

Ryan Anderson recorded back-to-back double-doubles and Dusan Ristic scored a career-high 20 points in the win over UNLV—his third consecutive game scoring in double figures. Kaleb Tarczewski better hurry up and get healthy before there's no longer a job waiting for him.

LOL, Bleacher Report?

Main Event wrote:Yeah I think we'll probably wind up at 11

Welp, 8th in the coaches poll

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/ba ... a7d8e55f86" target="_blank

top 10 -- rad