let's talk '17

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:13 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Considering the only senior will be Allen... Then he must be counting on having Trier and Smith going pro and 3-4 of the freshmen coming in being one and done.

i believe kadeem's done at the end of next season unless he grad xfrs somewhere

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:23 pm

Or leaving some scholies for 16 open if none of the remaining targets commit.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:45 pm

dirtbags wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Considering the only senior will be Allen... Then he must be counting on having Trier and Smith going pro and 3-4 of the freshmen coming in being one and done.
i believe kadeem's done at the end of next season unless he grad xfrs somewhere

Yeah that's why I said he's the only senior.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:01 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
dirtbags wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Considering the only senior will be Allen... Then he must be counting on having Trier and Smith going pro and 3-4 of the freshmen coming in being one and done.
i believe kadeem's done at the end of next season unless he grad xfrs somewhere
Yeah that's why I said he's the only senior.

oho, yes!

i misread that as KA being our sr. in the '17-'18 class. sorry, man.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:33 pm

Jaedon LeDee would eat ivy, too, wouldn't you?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Longhorned wrote:Jaedon LeDee would eat ivy, too, wouldn't you?

He's class of 2018.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:19 am

What are our biggest needs in the '17 class?

From next season's team, I believe we only definitely lose KA and could lose others to the pros (AT, RS, and some of our freshmen). Will DR be back? Will PJC? Seems like we have needs just about everywhere in '17.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:14 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:What are our biggest needs in the '17 class?

From next season's team, I believe we only definitely lose KA and could lose others to the pros (AT, RS, and some of our freshmen). Will DR be back? Will PJC? Seems like we have needs just about everywhere in '17.

Our biggest need is for targets to commit to Arizona early and often. The team's biggest need is ...

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:17 pm

gumby wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:What are our biggest needs in the '17 class?

From next season's team, I believe we only definitely lose KA and could lose others to the pros (AT, RS, and some of our freshmen). Will DR be back? Will PJC? Seems like we have needs just about everywhere in '17.
Our biggest need is for targets to commit to Arizona early and often. The team's biggest need is ...

Our biggest need is to follow the absurdities recruiting in the offseason to avoid confronting other absurdities.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:21 pm

Longhorned wrote:
gumby wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:What are our biggest needs in the '17 class?

From next season's team, I believe we only definitely lose KA and could lose others to the pros (AT, RS, and some of our freshmen). Will DR be back? Will PJC? Seems like we have needs just about everywhere in '17.
Our biggest need is for targets to commit to Arizona early and often. The team's biggest need is ...
Our biggest need is to follow the absurdities recruiting in the offseason to avoid confronting other absurdities.

I feel like this is about the presidential primaries.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:10 pm

The team's biggest need is a constantly moving target.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:47 pm

JJ is going to be a such a great Sophomore for the Cats in '17.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:29 pm

Alieberman wrote:JJ is going to be a such a great Sophomore for the Cats in '17.

When we add 4 or 5 five stars to a starting lineup of Kobi/Zo/JJ/LM/CC, I'm optimistic about how the year will go in '17.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:39 pm

Let's do lineups now:

LM/NO

PQ/RS/TU

VW/XY

AB/CD

EF/Geeee!

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:47 am

About time, Gumby. Maybe BC can chime in too.

A few concerns, though...

Lose LM to Big Easy like that other guy? Nah.

It's said VW drove over for his Official but was turned down------ SCSM said he wasn't a clutch player.

Also heard CD was out of tune with our players in a pick-up game.

Otherwise, great lineups, Gum!

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:36 pm

I'm more worried about the '24 class to be honest.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:34 pm

Olsondogg wrote:I'm more worried about the '24 class to be honest.

Our top target took a tetherball to the face today. More on this as it develops.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:36 pm

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:38 pm

So much for the Polish Pipeline.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun May 08, 2016 9:07 am

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... s-jayhawks" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon May 09, 2016 2:28 pm

Stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... ylan-smith" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:51 pm

Merkin wrote:Stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... ylan-smith" target="_blank

Because we're thin on guards? Is CSM just filling out the roster at this point?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 09, 2016 3:56 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:Stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... ylan-smith" target="_blank

Because we're thin on guards? Is CSM just filling out the roster at this point?

He's a 4 year guy who apparently looked ok at a midmajor his freshman year. There's nothing wrong with this. If we expect TF/RS/AT/RA to all go, or at least two of them to leave, it gives us needed depth.

It seems like just yesterday people were pining for developmental projects.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon May 09, 2016 4:44 pm

We need depth without hurting chemistry.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon May 09, 2016 4:52 pm

Looking further, he was mainly a 3 point shooter. 35% and led the team in scoring. Not that this tells us a ton, but he seems like a reasonable target for a transfer.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 09, 2016 5:01 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:Stats: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... ylan-smith" target="_blank

Because we're thin on guards? Is CSM just filling out the roster at this point?

Trier likely gone, Allen done, very likely one of if not both Ferguson/Alkins won't be around next year. Yeah I'd say it'd be in our best interest to get a proven guy into our program, learning our system, and then contributing after all those guys at his position are gone.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Tue May 10, 2016 5:13 pm

Arizona basketball recruiting: Wildcats 'focused' on getting five-star Ike Obiagu on campus

Alec Sills-Trausch @UofAlec on May 10, 2016, 4:07p

Ikechukwu Obiagu, a 7-foot, 230 pound center out of Decatur, Georgia, is arguably the best shot blocker in the entire country, even being compared to four-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year Dikembe Mutombo.

On May 5th, Obiagu was offered a scholarship by Sean Miller; adding to a long list of schools that are vying for his rim-protecting abilities.

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... ike-obiagu" target="_blank

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Wed May 11, 2016 9:40 pm

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed May 11, 2016 10:29 pm

Welcome to Arizona!

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Thu May 12, 2016 4:48 am

In his lone season with the Bulldogs, Smith averaged a team-high 13.5 points per game, as well as 2.6 rebounds, and 1.9 assists per game. The 6-foot-5 guard/forward shot an unimpressive 36.9 percent from the field, but a lot of that had do with the fact that he took nearly seven 3s per game, and knocked down 34.9 percent of them -- a decent percentage considering the high volume. Plus, he was in his first year of college basketball, so his inefficiency isn't too worrisome at the moment, and he did shoot 82.2 percent from the free throw line.

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball ... e-wildcats" target="_blank

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:25 am

More depth, no chemistry issues.

This going to be the theme for a little while, and I like it.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu May 12, 2016 9:14 am

Chicat wrote:More depth, no chemistry issues.

This going to be the theme for a little while, and I like it.

Cosign, and the emphasis on guard depth in particular should reflect immediate results.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu May 12, 2016 9:24 am

Main Event wrote:

Welcome aboard!

It's a nice addition. We get 4 years of him in the program, with 3 to play. He has good size for a wing, shot it well and led a tourney team in scoring his freshman year. You need some solid rotation guys to go along with 5 stars, and that's basically what it looks like we got.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu May 12, 2016 12:02 pm

Solid backup guard here for 3 years. I'll take it. Even if he doesn't start ever he can be a foundational guy that only helps

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu May 12, 2016 12:38 pm

He is going to have a helluva ride playing for Arizona even with a lot of it on the bench. Lots of stories to tell his kids about places he has been and players he played against.

My niece's husband played DB for UNCA's football team, and it was more long bus rides than private charters.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu May 12, 2016 1:00 pm

Just depends on who we get for next years class, we'll have a lot of guys leaving after next year.

mrqsjhnsnsux · Post by **mrqsjhnsnsux** » Thu May 12, 2016 2:29 pm

A buck seventy? PJC weighs that much.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu May 12, 2016 4:16 pm

Chicat wrote:We need depth without hurting chemistry.

Said Walter White to Jesse Pinkman.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:43 pm

Welcome aboard Keanu Pinder, he just committed.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:44 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:51 pm

I like what's happening here.

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sat May 14, 2016 5:50 pm

Pinder is 2016. He can play immediately.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun May 15, 2016 8:23 pm

Irish27 wrote:Welcome aboard Keanu Pinder, he just committed.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun May 15, 2016 8:40 pm

Chicat wrote:I like what's happening here.

In what sense, Chi? Just the way CSM is managing the roster? Or that we're developing a nice relationship with this CC?

legallykenny · Post by **legallykenny** » Mon May 16, 2016 10:55 am

Chicat wrote:I like what's happening here.

Why? I'm not really seeing the logic. But then I guess I think much less of JUCOs and transfers than some others might.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon May 16, 2016 11:12 am

legallykenny wrote:
Chicat wrote:I like what's happening here.
Why? I'm not really seeing the logic. But then I guess I think much less of JUCOs and transfers than some others might.

Because we're gaining depth without hurting chemistry.

legallykenny · Post by **legallykenny** » Mon May 16, 2016 11:36 am

Chicat wrote:
legallykenny wrote:
Chicat wrote:I like what's happening here.
Why? I'm not really seeing the logic. But then I guess I think much less of JUCOs and transfers than some others might.
Because we're gaining depth without hurting chemistry.

How do you know these guys won't be chemistry problems?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon May 16, 2016 11:59 am

legallykenny wrote:
Chicat wrote:
legallykenny wrote:
Chicat wrote:I like what's happening here.
Why? I'm not really seeing the logic. But then I guess I think much less of JUCOs and transfers than some others might.
Because we're gaining depth without hurting chemistry.
How do you know these guys won't be chemistry problems?

You can't "know" such a thing, but from all reports the guys we're bringing in know their roles and are happy with them. They had chances to go other places and play more, but chose Arizona. Those don't sound like chemistry-killers to me.

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Mon May 16, 2016 2:38 pm

Arizona needs 5-6 stars and 2-3 role players who know their place.

Even Kentucky couldn't win it all with 10 stars.

You can argue the best guard in Miller's tenure here was McConnell, a small school transfer. Johnson was best statistically, and Trier maybe has best overall potential, but impact, TJ was that.

I'm glad Miller isn't so arrogant he brushes off small school stars. Some of them can be very good.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue May 17, 2016 8:09 am

I like this too. Get your firepower, fill in the gaps with the right guys who will know their roles and do what they have to do because they want to be a part of something great. Sounds like two particular and very successful NBA teams.

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