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Re: Last second chances

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:34 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
Our guards this year aren't good enough to pull out close come from behind snatch the victory from defeat type wins. Hope I'm wrong in the tournament, but Gabe just can't dribble the ball, PJC no gonna be effective in a last possession. Only real option is Trier or Kadeem driving to the basket.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:47 pm
by Dave
If the play is executed and you miss the shot you live with it. When you can't even execute a play to get a decent shot, it is concerning. The sample size is massive.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:48 pm
by rgdeuce
cats101 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
cats101 wrote:No timeouts.

Coaching
Yea, should have let those runs continue and the crowd to gain even more momentum. It doesnt matter if we have timeouts. The result isnt gonna change
4 of 5 PAC 12 losses on last possession. Not all York's fault. He's not getting paid millions to win games. I understand he's the whipping boy for everyone when has has a bad game but it's a collective effort and it starts at the top.

Youre right doesn't matter if they had timeouts because miller decided to use them in the first 10 minutes.
Look at our history. This goes back to Lute. We dont win shit at the end of games unless its a 3/4 court shot by Simon or Salim is around. And if you want to talk about last possession, it doesnt come to it if the team didnt play like dogshit before and have to crawl back from 10 pt deficits with 3 minutes left in all of them. We have timeouts of they dont wait til the fat lady is grabbing a microphone before they decide to start playing bssketball

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:36 pm
by RiseAndFire
Call me crazy but maybe it would have been helpful to have a timeout handy to draw up a play, instead of burning all 5 by the 9:00 mark because you didn't like someone's defense.

For the 1000th time York should not be trying to create a shot as the result is usually dribbling off his shoe or getting crossed up and turning the ball over. Im all for the yorkcity and wow has his 3 point shooting taken off this year but he's proven to be a poor ballhandler in crunch time now 3 straight final-shot situations! Is anybody on the staff paying attention??

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:28 am
by Puerco
Do you come here after every win and analyze what we did well?

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:55 am
by RiseAndFire
there are exactly two good wins on the resume (top-50 teams)

usc and ore st (both at home)

in those games the threes were falling for York and I'm on record many times praising Yorks remarkable shooting improvement this year

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:02 am
by Merkin
Dave wrote:If the play is executed and you miss the shot you live with it. When you can't even execute a play to get a decent shot, it is concerning. The sample size is massive.

Yep, doesn't take a basketball genius to say give the ball to a scorer,and keep it out of York's hands unless it's a catch and shoot.

York is 0-3 with 15 seconds left and he pounding the ball into the court, and getting it knocked away all 3 times. That's 3 of the 6 losses.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:32 pm
by HiCat
Give Alonzo the ball. York's better spotting up, if he's there give it to him. If not, AT takes it to the rack. Higher percentage getting a bucket.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:44 pm
by billk78
We finally get one! Thankfully Miller learned from past mistakes, and instead of having York handle the ball he ran him off multiple screens. That's where he is at his best. Excellent call.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:20 pm
by rgdeuce
easy call for a coach when he hit the two 3s prior to that one. All huge shots, that game was over.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:58 am
by billk78
When Gabe catches fire theres no stopping him. I wish it would happen more often...

So glad he got going last night after a miserable first half.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:06 am
by Chicat
billk78 wrote:We finally get one! Thankfully Miller learned from past mistakes, and instead of having York handle the ball he ran him off multiple screens. That's where he is at his best. Excellent call.
Obviously the idea to get Gabe the ball coming off of screens on a catch-and-shoot was great, but so was running the play with more than 10 seconds left on the clock. Whenever we start up our offense with like 8 seconds left, we lose. Plain and simple.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:34 am
by Merkin
rgdeuce wrote:easy call for a coach when he hit the two 3s prior to that one. All huge shots, that game was over.
And how awful of a coaching job by Cuonzo to allow the same exact play on 3 straight possessions?

Besides leaving your best player on the bench with 4 fouls, which common practice brings him at the 5 minute mark.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:44 am
by Alieberman
Chicat wrote:
billk78 wrote:We finally get one! Thankfully Miller learned from past mistakes, and instead of having York handle the ball he ran him off multiple screens. That's where he is at his best. Excellent call.
Obviously the idea to get Gabe the ball coming off of screens on a catch-and-shoot was great, but so was running the play with more than 10 seconds left on the clock. Whenever we start up our offense with like 8 seconds left, we lose. Plain and simple.
Yes to all of this.

Having a TO to draw up a final play helps
Not running the clock out just to fumble the last play helps
Putting Gabe in position to succeed helps

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:45 am
by rgdeuce
Chicat wrote: Obviously the idea to get Gabe the ball coming off of screens on a catch-and-shoot was great, but so was running the play with more than 10 seconds left on the clock. Whenever we start up our offense with like 8 seconds left, we lose. Plain and simple.
Yes sir.
Merkin wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:easy call for a coach when he hit the two 3s prior to that one. All huge shots, that game was over.
And how awful of a coaching job by Cuonzo to allow the same exact play on 3 straight possessions?

Besides leaving your best player on the bench with 4 fouls, which common practice brings him at the 5 minute mark.
Yep. The first two, you can live with. Out of a timeout though? If I recall correctly, Cal had a body available within range too and he sunk into the paint as York was still getting to his spot. Looked like he was looking right at him too.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:13 am
by 84Cat
IDK, Gabe was pretty well guarded on those shots. He was just better than the defender. That second one he wasn't even squared up when he released the ball. Pretty tough to defend those.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:25 am
by Chicat
Merkin wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:easy call for a coach when he hit the two 3s prior to that one. All huge shots, that game was over.
And how awful of a coaching job by Cuonzo to allow the same exact play on 3 straight possessions?
First two plays were the same. On the third one he cut his route off and doubled back instead of going all the way around the baseline to the left hand side. Rabb was probably instructed to jump onto Gabe in the lane to throw off his rhythm on the curl, but coach realized they'd be looking to do that and didn't give him the chance.

Re: Last second chances

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:43 am
by Merkin
That's some good form.