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Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:01 am
by Olsondogg
I could tell a story about how Miles & JET passed some of their classes...but there might be kids reading...

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:06 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:51 am
by Bangkok Wildcat
UAEebs86 wrote:
C'mon Chance, Bear Down, grow up and don't let your teammates down!

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:07 am
by HiCat
Chance Comanche expected back for Michigan State game

For the second time in as many games, Chance Comanche was not dressed for the Arizona Wildcats on Sunday, having been suspended “indefinitely” for lack of academic responsibility.

It appears indefinitely meant a week.

“I’m anticipating Chance making the trip with us to Hawai’i, and as long as everything holds steady through tonight and tomorrow, I see him being able to play against Michigan State,” Sean Miller said after the game.

“Chance being a part of our team versus him not playing at all affects a lot of things,” Miller added. “It’s not the cure-all, but believe me, I’m around him every day in practice; he’s a big part of what we’re doing and that’s going to really help us with our depth.”

The Wildcats are scheduled to travel to Hawai’i on Wednesday and will face the Michigan State Spartans on Friday at 5 PM MT.

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball ... -academics" target="_blank

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:56 am
by rgdeuce
Puerco wrote:
One line of argument would state that if you memorized the content of 10 years' worth of old exams, then you'd have actually learned the content those tests were designed to test, no? All a prof has to do to foil that is to slightly change the wording of the test questions, and the people who really memorize without understanding the content are screwed.
As someone who has helped develop employment interview questions multiple times, this is it. There are multiple ways to get to the same answer or make sure the student knows and absorbs what needs to be absorbed. I always considered professors who kept the same test for years to be incredibly lazy.

"Whom of the following is not a Supreme Court Justice?" A) Kagan B) Carter C) Roberts D) Kennedy. "Whom of the following is an active Supreme Court Justice? A) Scalia B) Stevens C) O'Connor D) Alito.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:04 am
by rgdeuce
Getting Chance back is huge for this team. Outside of the depth and having an able big body down low if Lauri or Ristic get in foul trouble, it lets us slide Pinder over to the 3 a little more to allow for "play defense or get out" for our perimeter players. And I think most of us here agree that Chance is more than just an "able big body."
Olsondogg wrote:I could tell a story about how Miles & JET passed some of their classes...but there might be kids reading...
You have warned any potential kids and they can always close their eyes.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:42 pm
by gumby
rgdeuce wrote:
Puerco wrote:
One line of argument would state that if you memorized the content of 10 years' worth of old exams, then you'd have actually learned the content those tests were designed to test, no? All a prof has to do to foil that is to slightly change the wording of the test questions, and the people who really memorize without understanding the content are screwed.
As someone who has helped develop employment interview questions multiple times, this is it. There are multiple ways to get to the same answer or make sure the student knows and absorbs what needs to be absorbed. I always considered professors who kept the same test for years to be incredibly lazy.

"Whom of the following is not a Supreme Court Justice?" A) Kagan B) Carter C) Roberts D) Kennedy. "Whom of the following is an active Supreme Court Justice? A) Scalia B) Stevens C) O'Connor D) Alito.
True or False.

Both of those should be "Who" not "Whom"?

:D

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:45 pm
by gumby
We have four guys 6-9 and taller, and four who are 6-5 and shorter.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:50 pm
by Merkin
gumby wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
Puerco wrote:
One line of argument would state that if you memorized the content of 10 years' worth of old exams, then you'd have actually learned the content those tests were designed to test, no? All a prof has to do to foil that is to slightly change the wording of the test questions, and the people who really memorize without understanding the content are screwed.
As someone who has helped develop employment interview questions multiple times, this is it. There are multiple ways to get to the same answer or make sure the student knows and absorbs what needs to be absorbed. I always considered professors who kept the same test for years to be incredibly lazy.

"Whom of the following is not a Supreme Court Justice?" A) Kagan B) Carter C) Roberts D) Kennedy. "Whom of the following is an active Supreme Court Justice? A) Scalia B) Stevens C) O'Connor D) Alito.
True or False.

Both of those should be "Who" not "Whom"?

:D
Which?

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:51 pm
by gumby
Which the f*ck!

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:50 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Good game last night. After some rocky times, it's nice to see Chance do well.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:53 pm
by rgdeuce
Much more engaged and active once he got some dunks. Hopefully kick started a nice second half of the season for him.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:00 pm
by EVCat
rgdeuce wrote:Much more engaged and active once he got some dunks. Hopefully kick started a nice second half of the season for him.
Maybe we need to set up a broken backboard incident in RJ Gym. Everyone, stay away from it, get the ball to Chase, and CRAAASHH. Instant confidence.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:00 pm
by Merkin
Bill Walton's view of Chance:

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Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:47 pm
by BigSkyCatinMT
Just rewatched the game. Chance plays like that the rest of the season? I like the Chance for a deep run...if we get our players back.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:54 pm
by dirtbags
it was just great to see chance having fun out there. did you see his face after that dime from kobi in the first half? dude was feeling it

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:28 am
by rgdeuce
Yep. The pouts and look of no confidence were erased. He was having fun and probably felt like he belonged for the first time in a while.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:32 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Another good one tonight for Chance.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:31 pm
by Chicat
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another good one tonight for Chance.
He looks pretty comfortable on the offensive end, but he's still missing rotations on defense. That has to drive Miller up a wall.

MUCH better result on the boards tonight than against Cal. That's big that he showed that much effort in the second game of a roadie.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:47 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
Very cool to see Chance develop and put together 2 good games on the road like this. He is really needed.....especially when Pinder seemed to crap the bed this road trip.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:22 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Chicat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another good one tonight for Chance.
He looks pretty comfortable on the offensive end, but he's still missing rotations on defense. That has to drive Miller up a wall.

MUCH better result on the boards tonight than against Cal. That's big that he showed that much effort in the second game of a roadie.
It's a process. He's still only midway through his sophomore year. This is way ahead of where he was, though. I was worried he was almost checking out there for a bit.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:52 am
by Olsondogg
I like chance and what he brings to the table, mistakes aside. Effort is consistent.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:47 am
by gumby
I was about to kick him to the curb. Human TO machine. Then he drew that 4th on Rabb, finishes strong and carried it over to Maples.

Once he and Pinder learn how to set screens consistently, our TOs will plummet.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:55 pm
by rgdeuce
That was the play of the game against Cal, looking back. Very heady.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:33 pm
by ChooChooCat
The potential is through the roof, just needs to put it all together namely upstairs. Good thing he's got 2 more years.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:14 pm
by EVCat
That kind of footwork isn't accidental. When i see that from a big man, and that big man struggles other times, i chalk it up to a mental block. The question then becomes, is it a simple mental block that will disappear with time and experience or is the stage just bigger than the player is capable of operating comfortably upon?

When i see a road trip like Chance had, I think "OK...he can do this. He just has to believe he can do this". And that is where it comes down to what kind of practice player you are. If he is going hard and keeping focused while checking Dusan and Lauri, who between them give him everything a big can throw at him short of pure brutality, it's just a question of time before the Bay trip is the Chance reality.

If he is prone to taking practices off mentally, it will continue to result in enigmatic performances.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:34 am
by rgdeuce
There are a handful of moves he has put on this year where you look at the footwork and say, damn. There are also a handful where there was nice footwork and the defender was there, and he dragged his pivot foot a good 6-12 inches and got whistled for steps. It's there, just needs reps.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:22 pm
by azcat49
Most improved player? I think he might be. Working against Dusan I think has improved his game offensively. He had 10 impressive points yesterday. Love his progress and aggressiveness

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:06 pm
by Merkin
Yes, very much improved game offensively and perimeter defense. Still makes stupid fouls near the basket, but that will improve too. Very nice hands too.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:27 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
He's still young. Chance was always more of a project, the kind of guy who needs some seasoning and really puts it together as a junior and senior. He seems to have shrugged off the issues he had for a bit and be back to what he's good at, which is keeping his head under the rim.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:32 pm
by prh
He's sure getting some good training though. Battling Tarc as a freshman, Lauri this year, Ayton next year. Dusan for those 3 as well. He should keep improving at a good rate.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:38 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
prh wrote:He's sure getting some good training though. Battling Tarc as a freshman, Lauri this year, Ayton next year. Dusan for those 3 as well. He should keep improving at a good rate.
Dusan, Chance and Ayton is a really good rotation next year. If Lee is ready to help too, that plus Pinder and we are (again) stacked.

As a junior and senior, Chance is going to be the sort of player Kadeem has been this year. The sort of brick and mortar guy who complements the 5 stars.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:54 pm
by BigSkyCatinMT
Chance reminds me a lot of Frye, who went from a back-up to Fox early in his career to key contributor on last years NBA title team.

I mean, his upward trajectory and improvement is on a similar path. From project to who knows?

Of course, Frye benefited from 'Big Man Coach Pastner'. :Rolls eyes:

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:07 pm
by CalStateTempe
Lol "big man coach pastner". :roll:

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:13 am
by rgdeuce
Chance kind of reminds me of AJ Bramlett on the offensive end. I hope he can improve his defensive game and be that type of guy for us. Good enough to get his own buckets when needed but knows his role, defends and does the little things, and gets a lot of buckets off scraps around the basket and the wings when they penetrate. That big night he had weeks back was just what was needed. Got some confidence back and he is actually engaged again, and now he is getting some easy buckets he probably wouldnt have if he were moping around. He went from a liability to a bench asset pretty quickly, and we still got a long way to March :)

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:53 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Since the UNM game, Chance is 30-37 from the field, 82%.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:03 am
by Chicat
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Since the UNM game, Chance is 30-37 from the field, 82%.
That's good, right?

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:18 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Chicat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Since the UNM game, Chance is 30-37 from the field, 82%.
That's good, right?
I would say he has done a good job of taking makeable shots.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:59 am
by whatisee
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Since the UNM game, Chance is 30-37 from the field, 82%.
That's good, right?
I would say he has done a good job of taking makeable shots.
He's resorted to dunking the ball every Chance he gets...not a bad option since the other way wasn't working for him

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:48 am
by PennZona20
His 15 footer has looked remarkably smoother lately too. I think it's all about confidence with Chance.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:52 am
by rgdeuce
Now shooting 66% for the season. I suspect Chance is going to see a slight uptick in minutes now that Trier is back. Dusan is automatic inside and good finishing around the basket, but Chance cuts/reacts/finishes quicker than Dusan. An example being on that pick and roll with Trier. He got the ball about 10 feet out and attacked immediately and finished with a dunk. Swap that same play with Dusan. He may stop and pop, but it's a lower percentage shot. If he decides to attack, he isn't quick to get there and if there is anyone even close who he thinks will contest, more times than not he picks up his dribble and hesitates or pump fakes until he can get what he perceives is the cleaner shot, stopping the ball and allowing the defense to recover and possibly force him into dealing with two defenders.

When the matchups are in our favor, that is when I really like that Chance and Lauri combo at the 5 and 4. When all of the pieces are moving correctly, Chance essentially an asset on offense. He's just got to really clean up those dumb fouls. As he adds more size that will improve, but he's got to be smarter and knew when to say, OK I need to cheat here, rather than cheating at the elbow. Cant have him taking himself out of games and drawing the other team closer to the bonus.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:57 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Chance is far more efficient offensively than last year. The downside is that his rebounds per 40 min are down 3 from last year and his blocks are half. Offensively, he is in a groove right now in terms of getting the shots he needs to get and finishing them. I would like to see his D and rebounding rise to match last year at least.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:17 am
by Alieberman
Bill Walton was right

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:17 pm
by Hobbes
Alieberman wrote:Bill Walton was right
This is actually my life motto.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:20 pm
by gumby
WTG, Chief! Doing everything better, but what really impressed me was the catch and dunk off the fast-break pass from PJC when it was 68-63. Ball was low and behind him. He still catches and dunks in stride. Very coordinated. Then the putback off the LM brick to seal the deal.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:22 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
He's developing nicely. PF spot is made for him next year.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:25 pm
by gumby
A taller Anthony Cook, which would be sweet.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:28 pm
by PennZona20
Spaceman Spiff wrote:He's developing nicely. PF spot is made for him next year.


I'm pretty sure Ayton will start there, unless Dusan moves on. He will get all the minutes he wants though next year.

He will def be a starter as a senior though.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:57 am
by Spaceman Spiff
PennZona20 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:He's developing nicely. PF spot is made for him next year.
I'm pretty sure Ayton will start there, unless Dusan moves on. He will get all the minutes he wants though next year.

He will def be a starter as a senior though.
If Ayton does come, I would strongly consider Ayton at the 5 and Comanche at the 4. That is a better defensive and rebounding situation, and Ayton is easily big enough to play 5.

Re: Chance Comanche

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:58 am
by ChooChooCat
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
PennZona20 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:He's developing nicely. PF spot is made for him next year.
I'm pretty sure Ayton will start there, unless Dusan moves on. He will get all the minutes he wants though next year.

He will def be a starter as a senior though.
If Ayton does come, I would strongly consider Ayton at the 5 and Comanche at the 4. That is a better defensive and rebounding situation, and Ayton is easily big enough to play 5.
Ayton is the 4 and Comanche the 5 in that lineup.