Re: Terrance Ferguson
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:29 am
Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
No chance Miller winds up at UNC. Roy will hand pick his replacement and with the NCAA investigation, CSM will not be their next coach.ASUHATER! wrote:Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
Roy didn't hand pick his replacement at KU.Irish27 wrote:No chance Miller winds up at UNC. Roy will hand pick his replacement and with the NCAA investigation, CSM will not be their next coach.ASUHATER! wrote:Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
He's pumping up his hype train. That's all this is at this point. Just sit back and relax.Irish27 wrote:Is he really thinking of looking at UNC?
I never said he did.enfuego wrote:Roy didn't hand pick his replacement at KU.Irish27 wrote:No chance Miller winds up at UNC. Roy will hand pick his replacement and with the NCAA investigation, CSM will not be their next coach.ASUHATER! wrote:Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
I respectfully disagree with the assessment.Irish27 wrote:No chance Miller winds up at UNC. Roy will hand pick his replacement and with the NCAA investigation, CSM will not be their next coach.ASUHATER! wrote:Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
Jay Wright is a better candidate right now, and they'll always look for a NC guy before anybody. No chance on MillerCalStateTempe wrote:I respectfully disagree with the assessment.Irish27 wrote:No chance Miller winds up at UNC. Roy will hand pick his replacement and with the NCAA investigation, CSM will not be their next coach.ASUHATER! wrote:Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
There are no NC guys qualified for that head coaching job right now. Wright is either the second or third choice behind Stevens (who wouldn't leave the Celtics), but there's every reason to believe Wright wouldn't take the UNC job, so it probably doesn't make much difference in any case. Williams is unlikely to retire after Monday, but these kinds of retirements are often a surprise. If the unlikely were to happen and he does retire (which he won't), Miller would be very likely to get an offer.whatisee wrote:Jay Wright is a better candidate right now, and they'll always look for a NC guy before anybody. No chance on MillerCalStateTempe wrote:I respectfully disagree with the assessment.Irish27 wrote:No chance Miller winds up at UNC. Roy will hand pick his replacement and with the NCAA investigation, CSM will not be their next coach.ASUHATER! wrote:Roy retires. UNC hires Miller and takes Ferguson, Markkanen and Alkins with him.
So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
We should give up early to save time.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
That's how it's looking, but I personally prefer Trier to Ferguson. And we've got KS and RA. Backcourt is loaded. Frontcourt...meh.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
For real, you guys need to stop giving up.Beachcat97 wrote:That's how it's looking, but I personally prefer Trier to Ferguson. And we've got KS and RA. Backcourt is loaded. Frontcourt...meh.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
Not giving up. Trying to stay realistic. He may still come, but the Trier decision has to impact him. If we do end up getting Ferg, with Trier back I don't think PJC will see the court very much.Spaceman Spiff wrote:For real, you guys need to stop giving up.Beachcat97 wrote:That's how it's looking, but I personally prefer Trier to Ferguson. And we've got KS and RA. Backcourt is loaded. Frontcourt...meh.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
I really don't see that. If we play a small lineup a bit, we can offer 25 mpg or more, which is as much as he has a chance to elsewhere.billk78 wrote:Not giving up. Trying to stay realistic. He may still come, but the Trier decision has to impact him. If we do end up getting Ferg, with Trier back I don't think PJC will see the court very much.Spaceman Spiff wrote:For real, you guys need to stop giving up.Beachcat97 wrote:That's how it's looking, but I personally prefer Trier to Ferguson. And we've got KS and RA. Backcourt is loaded. Frontcourt...meh.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
Don't try to stop people from doing what truly makes them happy.Spaceman Spiff wrote:For real, you guys need to stop giving up.Beachcat97 wrote:That's how it's looking, but I personally prefer Trier to Ferguson. And we've got KS and RA. Backcourt is loaded. Frontcourt...meh.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
They just need to stop posting already.Spaceman Spiff wrote:For real, you guys need to stop giving up.Beachcat97 wrote:That's how it's looking, but I personally prefer Trier to Ferguson. And we've got KS and RA. Backcourt is loaded. Frontcourt...meh.billk78 wrote:So no Ferguson or Jackson?gumby wrote:Trier back. This is why you take your time.
I think some people get their own opinions confused with what is available to recruits.Longhorned wrote:Why would this affect Ferguson when Trier coming back isn't a development? Inside McKale, the expectation was that Trier would return. Ferguson's mom and his circle knew that. It feels like some people around here think that recruiting is a sequence of personal, emotionally-driven reactions.
Don't forget the free slices of lukewarm pizza.Merkin wrote:ACC for basketball and SEC for football gets just hand slaps and strongly worded letter from the NCAA compared to the PAC in both sports.
USC football is the obvious one, but remember when the UA lost a scholie for 2 years due to some Lute Olson stamped signature on some Jim Story Cactus Classic fund raising letter?
Because people, like me, don't know the inside-the-McKale perspective.Longhorned wrote:Why would this affect Ferguson when Trier coming back isn't a development? Inside McKale, the expectation was that Trier would return. Ferguson's mom and his circle knew that. It feels like some people around here think that recruiting is a sequence of personal, emotionally-driven reactions.
You didn't know. It was an opinion.EVCat wrote:There seriously wasn't a moment where I thought Trier would leave. Declare? I expected that. I think he made quite a statement about his commitment to not even get the free evaluation. But he was never leaving.
If I knew that, everyone knew that. Or at least the "everyone" who goes into the JJ and Ferguson decision. Trier coming back caught some message board people off-guard (no pun intended) maybe. But no one seriously in the chain of decision making for UA basketball or Ferguson or JJ were counting on Trier leaving as part of their interest in Arizona.
SMU got a one-year ban for academic fraud involving just one player. This stuff has been going on for 18 years? Multiple sports programs? NCAA is already to the point now where they are teetering over the edge. While I do not know the alternative, you got to figure they are one, maybe two big programs being let off from a huge explosion. The lack of accountability and self-imposed sanctions.. eh. I mean, who are we fooling, we all know the way this story is going to end. Part of me still has a glimmer of hope, not that the NCAA does the right thing (we all know who they are), but they feel like they are forced to do the right thing and even do 1/2 or 3/4 of the right thing. The thing though, is this involves at least three sports programs, so they can deliver a "harsh" penalty (across the board f*ckery for the whole athletic department) rather than multiple years focused on 1, 2, or 3 sports.Merkin wrote:ACC for basketball and SEC for football gets just hand slaps and strongly worded letter from the NCAA compared to the PAC in both sports.
USC football is the obvious one, but remember when the UA lost a scholie for 2 years due to some Lute Olson stamped signature on some Jim Story Cactus Classic fund raising letter?
To paraphrase Tark, the NCAA is probably mad enough at UNC to drop the death penalty on SMU again.rgdeuce wrote:SMU got a one-year ban for academic fraud involving just one player. This stuff has been going on for 18 years? Multiple sports programs? NCAA is already to the point now where they are teetering over the edge. While I do not know the alternative, you got to figure they are one, maybe two big programs being let off from a huge explosion. The lack of accountability and self-imposed sanctions.. eh. I mean, who are we fooling, we all know the way this story is going to end. Part of me still has a glimmer of hope, not that the NCAA does the right thing (we all know who they are), but they feel like they are forced to do the right thing and even do 1/2 or 3/4 of the right thing. The thing though, is this involves at least three sports programs, so they can deliver a "harsh" penalty (across the board f*ckery for the whole athletic department) rather than multiple years focused on 1, 2, or 3 sports.Merkin wrote:ACC for basketball and SEC for football gets just hand slaps and strongly worded letter from the NCAA compared to the PAC in both sports.
USC football is the obvious one, but remember when the UA lost a scholie for 2 years due to some Lute Olson stamped signature on some Jim Story Cactus Classic fund raising letter?
I agree with you on many of the points you made. First, what UNC did was very bad and deserves a very harsh penalty. Lack of Institutional Control and cheating across all sports for 18 years? Second, the NCAA is teetering on the edge. In cases like this, Louisville, etc the NCAA needs to do something fairly quickly and do something fairly serious to assert it's authority. If the NCAA doesn't do something fairly quickly and do something fairly serious the last threads of authority probably disappear (if that hasn't happened already).rgdeuce wrote:SMU got a one-year ban for academic fraud involving just one player. This stuff has been going on for 18 years? Multiple sports programs? NCAA is already to the point now where they are teetering over the edge. While I do not know the alternative, you got to figure they are one, maybe two big programs being let off from a huge explosion. The lack of accountability and self-imposed sanctions.. eh. I mean, who are we fooling, we all know the way this story is going to end. Part of me still has a glimmer of hope, not that the NCAA does the right thing (we all know who they are), but they feel like they are forced to do the right thing and even do 1/2 or 3/4 of the right thing. The thing though, is this involves at least three sports programs, so they can deliver a "harsh" penalty (across the board f*ckery for the whole athletic department) rather than multiple years focused on 1, 2, or 3 sports.
Spaceman Spiff wrote:To paraphrase Tark, the NCAA is probably mad enough at UNC to drop the death penalty on SMU again.
Well, no shit.gumby wrote:You didn't know. It was an opinion.EVCat wrote:There seriously wasn't a moment where I thought Trier would leave. Declare? I expected that. I think he made quite a statement about his commitment to not even get the free evaluation. But he was never leaving.
If I knew that, everyone knew that. Or at least the "everyone" who goes into the JJ and Ferguson decision. Trier coming back caught some message board people off-guard (no pun intended) maybe. But no one seriously in the chain of decision making for UA basketball or Ferguson or JJ were counting on Trier leaving as part of their interest in Arizona.