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Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:10 pm
by qwertyus
BBQ wildcat wrote:
Oh shit, you got me, BBQ! PJC is the greatest! He totally isn't on the court because he's one of a handful of players who can dribble, you're right! He's there because he's a slasher and a scorer! He's there because of his impressive passing skills as he hands the ball off to Trier, or passes it to Ayton. I mean, his high 3-point percentage must translate into a lot of points then, right?

Well, let me put it this way. The team is much worse when PJC ISN'T on the court and Trier is running point. That should be very obvious to anyone who actually watches the games. Miller says PJC is very important to how the team performs, and In Miller I Trust. AND he has had to put PJC back into games to "stabilize" things, even when he is in foul trouble. So there's all that. Oh, yeah, plus Barcello isn't even seeing any junk minutes.

So, no, PJC isn't an elite PG. But he is decent, and is much better than any second choice we have.
Never said PJC wasn't the best PG we have on the team. In fact, I said that Barcello is worse. No need to appeal to authority on a strawman of your own making.

I'm simply saying that, when you consider the fact that we have a mediocre starting PG whose main contributions are dribbling and not turning the ball over, if Barcello just tries to defend/switch well, dribbles, and doesn't turn the ball over, that will approximate PJC's role on the court. Neither guy is big enough to defend, or enough of a scorer, or a great facilitator. Barcello is simply PJC-lite, and that'll have to be enough when PJC gets a breather.

Fingers crossed we can win an appeal and have Trier back though.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:47 am
by BBQ wildcat
I must say, Barcello surprised me last night. He gave some solid minutes, so maybe he will have a chance to get in some games.

Fingers crossed is right. It is just so unfair for Trier, what he is having to go through.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:52 am
by Alieberman
Kudos to Barcello for being prepared and ready to play after not sniffing a second of playing time in months.

The entire bench in the 1st half last night really came ready to contribute.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:53 am
by BBQ wildcat
Maybe they finally got their wakeup call?

Re: Barcello

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:37 am
by DiehardDave37
I did not see a deer in headlights when Alex was on the floor last night. I thought I even saw an attempt at real defense and some energy. I will re-watch the game before I say more than that.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:20 am
by dcZONAfan
dcZONAfan wrote:Barcello can't even handle 2 minutes a night NOW, after this.
I am very happy Alex didn't listen to me and played so well last night. Positive minutes are unexpected and needed at a time like this.

Well done AB, keep it up!

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:18 pm
by Jefe
Started for BYU last night. 31 min 17 pt 3 stl 2 asst 7/9 fg 3/4 3pt

Damn

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 pm
by Alieberman
Jefe wrote:Started for BYU last night. 31 min 17 pt 3 stl 2 asst 7/9 fg 3/4 3pt

Damn
When did he ever do that for us?!!!!

Good for him though

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:24 pm
by Merkin
That is impressive, although it was against Cal State Disneyland. Let's see how he does v. SDSU.

Although CSF would probably take Chico State.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:54 pm
by azcat49
Well when you can coast on defense you have a lot more legs for offense

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:32 pm
by dovecanyoncat
We knew he had it in him all the time. Multiple factors contributed to his struggles. Give someone 31 minutes and a lot of them will go away. So happy for the guy.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:48 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Alieberman wrote:
Jefe wrote:Started for BYU last night. 31 min 17 pt 3 stl 2 asst 7/9 fg 3/4 3pt

Damn
When did he ever do that for us?!!!!

Good for him though
I'm rooting for him. He was always super respectful and positive here even during tough times for himself and the program.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:20 pm
by YoDeFoe
dovecanyoncat wrote:We knew he had it in him all the time. Multiple factors contributed to his struggles. Give someone 31 minutes and a lot of them will go away. So happy for the guy.
Totally agree - a lot of players struggle when they've got a short leash, but at top programs, you have to perform to justify the minutes. Stoked for the kid; always knew he had fight in him.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:31 pm
by Irish27
Great to see. I will be rooting for Alex to do well.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:10 am
by EVCat
I just saw BYU is in the WCC now?

It's like a larger model of his current situation...very Catholic boy in an LDS university that now plays in a very Catholic conference :)

I will always pull for the kid. BYU as a destination still cracks me up from an East Valley Catholic kid, but it will be a good fit for him basketball-wise.

He has come out the other end of some crap, and hopefully will get some of that swagger back.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:22 am
by ASUHATER!
Byu has been in the WCC for like 6 years by now. Ever since they went independent in football. They're in the WCC for every sport but football.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:54 am
by EVCat
I guess they have

Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:21 am
by gronk4heisman
Why is he eligible but Akot is not? Punishment/karma for ditching a team mid season?

Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:22 am
by ChooChooCat
gronk4heisman wrote:Why is he eligible but Akot is not? Punishment/karma for ditching a team mid season?
We supported Barcello's waiver. We did not support Akot's waiver. You can certainly guess why on each.

Honestly the way the NCAA handled every single waiver was if the prior school supported the new school's waiver claim it was approved.

Re: Barcello

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:46 pm
by YoDeFoe
To Choo’s point: see Quinerly not getting the vote as well.