Re: Blowout Loses
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:55 pm
I obviously over estimated Miller's coaching abilities and his ability to reach the players yesterday
We had the 15th rated AdjO last year, just behind Gonzaga.psiclist23 wrote:ell last year we had a pretty good offensive minded asst.. Romar. Didn't seem to matter. It never did seem to me that he was contributing anything to the offense. I always thought that if Sean had just turned the offense over to Romar, and concentrated on defense, or recruiting, the season might have turned out a little differently.azcat49 wrote:Tough thread to read. Have to wonder how much the turnover in the staff has impacted the program. Seems like the level of our assistant coaches is questionable
I don't think Sean is doing much but what he wants to.
this is interesting - I do agree (baring anything funky) regardless of the results on the floor this year, Coach Miller will get to see next season...and Mannion is the real deal - they should be excellent.ChooChooCat wrote:Great thread 97. This is why next year is the ultimate make or break year for Sean Miller in regards to the opinions of his fanbase and honestly probably the donors.
Outside of the FBI arresting Miller, zero chance he doesn’t coach us again next year.97cats wrote:this is interesting - I do agree (baring anything funky) regardless of the results on the floor this year, Coach Miller will get to see next season...and Mannion is the real deal - they should be excellent.ChooChooCat wrote:Great thread 97. This is why next year is the ultimate make or break year for Sean Miller in regards to the opinions of his fanbase and honestly probably the donors.
Completely agree. I'll still watch this year and hope for continued development and confidence from Jeter, Ira and Brandon Williams (maybe Barcello? maybe?). Other than that I'm ready to move on. Not many seasons I've felt that way.AZCatGirl wrote:Well if we lose early to a crap team in the tournament next year the heat on Miller will be well earned.
If we lose another close Elite 8 game? That seems over reactionary to me.
Either way, next year is all that matters right now.
The average fan must be a pretty low common denominator, then.Newportcat wrote:Outside of the FBI arresting Miller, zero chance he doesn’t coach us again next year.97cats wrote:this is interesting - I do agree (baring anything funky) regardless of the results on the floor this year, Coach Miller will get to see next season...and Mannion is the real deal - they should be excellent.ChooChooCat wrote:Great thread 97. This is why next year is the ultimate make or break year for Sean Miller in regards to the opinions of his fanbase and honestly probably the donors.
The powerful alums still like Miller and so does president Robbins
Now that being said, I am starting to hear he better win next year or the natives that matter could be restless
I honestly think he is already on thin ice with the average fan.
I think most average fans are fairly dumb and lack an understanding for how things truly work. I totally agree with everything you said about this team. It’s a redshirt yearSpaceman Spiff wrote:The average fan must be a pretty low common denominator, then.Newportcat wrote:Outside of the FBI arresting Miller, zero chance he doesn’t coach us again next year.97cats wrote:this is interesting - I do agree (baring anything funky) regardless of the results on the floor this year, Coach Miller will get to see next season...and Mannion is the real deal - they should be excellent.ChooChooCat wrote:Great thread 97. This is why next year is the ultimate make or break year for Sean Miller in regards to the opinions of his fanbase and honestly probably the donors.
The powerful alums still like Miller and so does president Robbins
Now that being said, I am starting to hear he better win next year or the natives that matter could be restless
I honestly think he is already on thin ice with the average fan.
I return to the idea that this year was a salvage project, period. We were at a point where we had no returning starters and no incoming recruits. That spells Titanic sized disaster. Unless you buy Miller's complicity in Book's actions, it was also basically outside Miller's control.
As bad as this weekend was, on some level it just speaks to the fact we went on the road without our most indispensable player and shot the ball like shit. I know I'm more a Miller fan than most, but being 1-2 without Jeter actually isn't awful. Jeter is the guy we can least afford to lose, and we've basically played the last 3 games without him.
Without Jeter, we have no post offense. It further locks us into a situation where our perimeter players make shots or they don't, and that is the be all and end all of our offensive production.SabinoDrifter wrote:For context, this is the most inefficient offensive team in Miller's tenure at Arizona (next worst was 12-13 season) and the worst shooting team measured by effective FG% (next worst was 10-11 season).
This team's inability to shoot consistently is catching up to them at the worst time. Jeter does make a difference, but the offensive talent on is severely lacking.
Agreed, both Lee and Luther are little threat in the post against teams with length and size.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Without Jeter, we have no post offense. It further locks us into a situation where our perimeter players make shots or they don't, and that is the be all and end all of our offensive production.SabinoDrifter wrote:For context, this is the most inefficient offensive team in Miller's tenure at Arizona (next worst was 12-13 season) and the worst shooting team measured by effective FG% (next worst was 10-11 season).
This team's inability to shoot consistently is catching up to them at the worst time. Jeter does make a difference, but the offensive talent on is severely lacking.
Jeter lets us threaten the D with postup play. Lee is a good energy guy, but he doesn't give us that. Luther doesn't post.
Can Nico impress you more than Lonzo did at UCLA? Would you take Nico over Lonzo, knowing what he did that year?97cats wrote:this is interesting - I do agree (baring anything funky) regardless of the results on the floor this year, Coach Miller will get to see next season...and Mannion is the real deal - they should be excellent.
If Jeter, Ira, Williams, and Barcello return, next year's squad should be a very good one, particularly if those players continue to develop.billk78 wrote:Completely agree. I'll still watch this year and hope for continued development and confidence from Jeter, Ira and Brandon Williams (maybe Barcello? maybe?). Other than that I'm ready to move on. Not many seasons I've felt that way.AZCatGirl wrote:Well if we lose early to a crap team in the tournament next year the heat on Miller will be well earned.
If we lose another close Elite 8 game? That seems over reactionary to me.
Either way, next year is all that matters right now.
Newportcat wrote:FYI 97cats is so full of shit. He has no idea what he is talking about. What a fraud
Sweet hat bro
Newportcat wrote:Such bullshit, look at me I do shots
Nicely done bros.Newportcat wrote:Ok so maybe worlds collided and newportcat and 97cats hung out tonight.
He is super legit and almost knows too much
Cuts to a shot of Newportcat hanging with Lute last night....Newportcat wrote:Ok so maybe worlds collided and newportcat and 97cats hung out tonight.
He is super legit and almost knows too much
Pretty sure Lute would never wear a pink track jacket in publicdcZONAfan wrote:Cuts to a shot of Newportcat hanging with Lute last night....Newportcat wrote:Ok so maybe worlds collided and newportcat and 97cats hung out tonight.
He is super legit and almost knows too much
::lightbulb::
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
No Chase? Hansen says he isn't on the court for warmupsChooChooCat wrote:Sounds like we can add tonight's game to the blowout loss tally.
Way worse than Chase.84Cat wrote:No Chase? Hansen says he isn't on the court for warmupsChooChooCat wrote:Sounds like we can add tonight's game to the blowout loss tally.
Even the one with the donkey in Rosarita??Newportcat wrote:Arizona could lose every game the rest of this season but the fact I met and got to hang out with 97 makes my year. Any story you have heard about him...
Don’t play chase. Give him 7 more days until WashingtonAZCatGirl wrote:No BWill, limited Chase...
We're fucked.
You trying to bring Machina out?Frybry02 wrote:Don’t play chase. Give him 7 more days until WashingtonAZCatGirl wrote:No BWill, limited Chase...
We're fucked.
I mean 97 pulled off wearing a pink track jacket so I would believe it all. Hearing him talking about Arizona basketball is like speaking directly to the oracle. It’s like you become enlightened. I think Travolta would call it going clear. All becomes quiet and things just make sense.ChooChooCat wrote:Even the one with the donkey in Rosarita??Newportcat wrote:Arizona could lose every game the rest of this season but the fact I met and got to hang out with 97 makes my year. Any story you have heard about him...
It's always the guys who are wise enough to not care what anybody else thinks that just know it all. I'm far from surprised.Newportcat wrote:I mean 97 pulled off wearing a pink track jacket so I would believe it all. Hearing him talking about Arizona basketball is like speaking directly to the oracle. It’s like you become enlightened. I think Travolta would call it going clear. All becomes quiet and things just make sense.ChooChooCat wrote:Even the one with the donkey in Rosarita??Newportcat wrote:Arizona could lose every game the rest of this season but the fact I met and got to hang out with 97 makes my year. Any story you have heard about him...
Whatever he says is the truth
And again it’s coming from a guy wearing a pink track jacket...and proud of it
especially that...where’s Rosarita again?ChooChooCat wrote:Newportcat wrote:
Even the one with the donkey in Rosarita??
97cats wrote:especially that...where’s Rosarita again?ChooChooCat wrote:Newportcat wrote:
Even the one with the donkey in Rosarita??
Newportcat wrote:Given we lost to ASU I am going to tell stories about 97cats to make myself feel better inside
When you hear him speak, this is what Arizona basketball started to look like
Alieberman wrote:I spent an evening drinking with 97 and Rey in a hotel room at the Arizona Inn 1 night.
Try explaining to your wife you are about to meet up with 2 men in a hotel room that you’ve only ever met on a message board. She was totally freaked out! But I had a great night!
You should have trolled her and asked if she knew where any rope was.Alieberman wrote:I spent an evening drinking with 97 and Rey in a hotel room at the Arizona Inn 1 night.
Try explaining to your wife you are about to meet up with 2 men in a hotel room that you’ve only ever met on a message board. She was totally freaked out! But I had a great night!
I was kind of nervous as we met at this business event and knew people might ask how we knew each other and saying, "I met him on the internet" just does not sound great. Sure enough when someone said oh you guys are friends, 97 says just calmly and coolly said "Yeah we went to college together"....Alieberman wrote:I spent an evening drinking with 97 and Rey in a hotel room at the Arizona Inn 1 night.
Try explaining to your wife you are about to meet up with 2 men in a hotel room that you’ve only ever met on a message board. She was totally freaked out! But I had a great night!