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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:55 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:43 pm Everyone is mad at us because they didn't call a foul on Arizona at the end of regulation near the half court line.
Also mad because Kier waved goodbye to TCU fans at the end.
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prh wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:00 pm Please just defensive rebound vs Houston. Do that and get back to our regular offensive flow and we'll be alright
i know wildcat fans turn out no matter where, but that's a home game for houston. should be a great matchup.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:03 pm
Loser talk.
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I need a good Houston scouting report. Going to enjoy tf out of this tonight. But I'd really like to start reading about how we match up. Kinda think our size is a problem for anyone.
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I'd like to see video to see if he stepped on the half court line.
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UAEebs86 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:07 pm Honestly TCU fans must have been dishing out some serious shit talk for them to do that.
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dirtbags wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:11 pm
prh wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:00 pm Please just defensive rebound vs Houston. Do that and get back to our regular offensive flow and we'll be alright
i know wildcat fans turn out no matter where, but that's a home game for houston. should be a great matchup.
Houston doesn’t have fans.
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97 has said the second game vs TCU would be toughest game in the region

He's been right pretty much the whole way
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legallykenny wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:14 pm
dirtbags wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:11 pm
prh wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:00 pm Please just defensive rebound vs Houston. Do that and get back to our regular offensive flow and we'll be alright
i know wildcat fans turn out no matter where, but that's a home game for houston. should be a great matchup.
Houston doesn’t have fans.
It was going to be a home game for whomever we would have played.......the crowd always cheers for the lower seed.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:13 pm I need a good Houston scouting report. Going to enjoy tf out of this tonight. But I'd really like to start reading about how we match up. Kinda think our size is a problem for anyone.
According to the announcers we're the biggest team left in the tournament. Our size is gonna be a problem for every team we face.
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legallykenny wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:14 pm
dirtbags wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:11 pm
prh wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:00 pm Please just defensive rebound vs Houston. Do that and get back to our regular offensive flow and we'll be alright
i know wildcat fans turn out no matter where, but that's a home game for houston. should be a great matchup.
Houston doesn’t have fans.
That's a decent point. And the city of Houston is actually too far away to generate local bandwagoners. Bandwagoners don't travel.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:16 pm 97 has said the second game vs TCU would be toughest game in the region

He's been right pretty much the whole way
You had posted some graph somewhere (bracketology thread?) showing AZ , Gonzaga and Houston as highly elite teams. Can you repost that if you know what I am talking about?
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Hope 97 is right about our toughest test being TCU.
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Maybe in San Antonio we'll have Tubelis, Kerr, and Kier playing normally.
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Alieberman wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:23 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:16 pm 97 has said the second game vs TCU would be toughest game in the region

He's been right pretty much the whole way
You had posted some graph somewhere (bracketology thread?) showing AZ , Gonzaga and Houston as highly elite teams. Can you repost that if you know what I am talking about?
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AZCatGirl wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:17 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:13 pm I need a good Houston scouting report. Going to enjoy tf out of this tonight. But I'd really like to start reading about how we match up. Kinda think our size is a problem for anyone.
According to the announcers we're the biggest team left in the tournament. Our size is gonna be a problem for every team we face.
Music to my ears.
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pokinmik wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:56 pm The tcu player fell trying to avoid a backcourt. It was an amazing trap and a foul would’ve been horse shit in that situation. Fuck Avery Johnson and the fat boy in purple. Bear down!
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He stepped over the line. Should have been our ball with time for a last shot.
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I also thought he cradled the ball right before he stepped on line
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I like not calling anything in that situation. Let the players decide the game.
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Hopefully next game Kriisa, Zu, Kier and Ballo make a cameo on the stat sheet.
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What day/time is the Houston game on?

I need to know, because some folks showed up at my door with 3:00 or so left in overtime wanting to change my remaining old style bulbs to LEDs and install a smart meter monitor device. I almost took their heads off, but I maintained my dignity and told them OK but come back in an hour. (They sorta understood - they are passionate about their Indian cricket too).

They installed the meter monitor, OK (but it probably won't tell me anything my solar panel monitor doesn't tell me), but set up an appointment to change the lights for Friday.

If the lightbulb installer shows up during game time he'll probably have his head removed.
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So, I've got 8 out of 16 in both my brackets.

EDIT: AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH! The game is on Friday at 12:59pm my time. The light bulb installer is scheduled for "between 13:00 and 16:00. I will have to squire him around but can have the game on the TV downstairs and the TV upstairs, and maybe my tablet to carry around.

But I might just have started cracking a few by the time they get here, I hope they can take it.
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RichardCranium wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:04 pm What day/time is the Houston game on?

I need to know, because some folks showed up at my door with 3:00 or so left in overtime wanting to change my remaining old style bulbs to LEDs and install a smart meter monitor device. I almost took their heads off, but I maintained my dignity and told them OK but come back in an hour. (They sorta understood - they are passionate about their Indian cricket too).

They installed the meter monitor, OK (but it probably won't tell me anything my solar panel monitor doesn't tell me), but set up an appointment to change the lights for Friday.

If the lightbulb installer shows up during game time he'll probably have his head removed.
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Tips at 1 pm Friday Sydney time.
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scumdevils86 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:17 pm Tips at 1 pm Friday Sydney time.
Yeah, and the installers are scheduled between 1pm and 4pm. Shit. I can install light bulbs, they can just leave them at the door and I'll do it on Saturday.

But they probably won't like that idea.
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Probably won't start on time since we're the last game of the day, again...
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Late game
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Always a fucking late game. I was up until 1:30am last night.

Of course being on this message board reading the postgame remarks doesn’t help…

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It’s brutal. I didn’t get to sleep til almost 3. But we can be ecstatic the cats got the win! This team had too good of a year to lose in the second round to TCU. I still can’t believe everything went down the way it did. The Terry and Mathurin threes to save the season and the exciting dunks. Crazy.
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Postmaster wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:05 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:55 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:43 pm Everyone is mad at us because they didn't call a foul on Arizona at the end of regulation near the half court line.
Also mad because Kier waved goodbye to TCU fans at the end.
AT did the same thing.
Did they have just as big a problem with Lampkin’s “too small” gestures, or his ridiculous hanging on the rim, or all the voluble shit he talked whenever he scored, screaming all the way up the court like an idiot?

No? Hmmm… it’s almost like they’re looking for things to be mad at because their team couldn’t make winning plays when they needed them.
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Backcourt violation and flop warning. He threw himself to the ground trying to get a foul call to avoid going into the backcourt.
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Chicat wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:59 am Backcourt violation and flop warning. He threw himself to the ground trying to get a foul call to avoid going into the backcourt.
You are correct sir.
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Great win of course but really wish they would have put them away when there was about 7 to go and the Cats were up 9. Can't let an offensively challenged team like TCU mount that comeback. Up until then the game was going exactly the way I expected and I was completely calm. After that it was heart attack city.

Going forward, having a game that physical with no fouls being called should pay dividends in experience for the team.
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Does anybody know if the team went back to Tucson last nigh? I figured they would have gotten back around midnight - but it’s a quick turnaround to San Antonio. They would have to leave Tucson on Tuesday.
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jajoyce wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:19 am Does anybody know if the team went back to Tucson last nigh? I figured they would have gotten back around midnight - but it’s a quick turnaround to San Antonio. They would have to leave Tucson on Tuesday.
I don't think they would be back by midnight.
Game ended around 9:40 Tucson time. Interviews, showers, travel to the airport, etc.
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FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE!!!

Houston could prove to be a formidble foe!
Eamonn Brennan, college basketball staff writer, The Athletic:

The synergies between TCU and Houston are pretty significant. Both teams guard like crazy and thrive on offensive rebounds. The difference, of course, is that TCU came into this game ranked 26th in adjusted efficiency at KenPom.com; Houston currently ranks No. 2.

There is every chance the Wildcats' game against Houston looks almost exactly like this one, except against a team that does all of what TCU does at the highest level college hoops has to offer. In other words, it should be awesome.
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Houston may be good at doing the same things TCU does, but what matters is how they do it.

This game won't involve "adjusting for the physicality" or getting mauled in the paint. The better team will grab more long rebounds and get to the rim more often.

Keeping Ballo on the floor together with Koloko will come with a different cost. Tommy may shut that down really fast.
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Seems like the national consensus is that we're underdogs against Houston
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
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UAEebs86 wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:00 am
Chicat wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:59 am Backcourt violation and flop warning. He threw himself to the ground trying to get a foul call to avoid going into the backcourt.
You are correct sir.
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Longhorned wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:10 am Houston may be good at doing the same things TCU does, but what matters is how they do it.

This game won't involve "adjusting for the physicality" or getting mauled in the paint. The better team will grab more long rebounds and get to the rim more often.

Keeping Ballo on the floor together with Koloko will come with a different cost. Tommy may shut that down really fast.
Who did Houston play to receive that Kenpom adjusted offense?

Not underestimating them, but I think you got take a closers look at how the stats are generated
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CalStateTempe wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:33 am
Longhorned wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:10 am Houston may be good at doing the same things TCU does, but what matters is how they do it.

This game won't involve "adjusting for the physicality" or getting mauled in the paint. The better team will grab more long rebounds and get to the rim more often.

Keeping Ballo on the floor together with Koloko will come with a different cost. Tommy may shut that down really fast.
Who did Houston play to receive that Kenpom adjusted offense?

Not underestimating them, but I think you got take a closers look at how the stats are generated
They did have 5 regular season games against Quad 1 opponents.

Unfortunately for Houston they went 1-4 in those games.

Stats are great, and can tell you a lot, but they can’t tell you who is going to win with 100% accuracy.
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Part of the predictability problem is that Arizona hasn't played anyone like Houston this year.
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The national media is going off on that non foul call

No one is commenting that it could have been a backcourt violation
No one is commenting that it could have been a flop
No one is commenting that TCU could have just won in OT

Shut the fuck up.
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