Bear Down Wildcats

UAEebs86 wrote:

I could have told you that. In Kentucky, if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’.

Chicat wrote:I could have told you that. In Kentucky, if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’.

It's only cheatin' if ya get caught.

Chicat wrote:

UAEebs86 wrote:

I could have told you that. In Kentucky, if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’.

Vitale has been very quiet about Louisville over the past 2 years. One would think Louisville will be facing far greater NCAA violation charges than Kansas (and Arizona for that matter).

Some kind of correction has to be implemented by the colleges!

A fair method for player compensation - aboveboard and transparent as coaches’ compensation at state schools...

Limit on coaching salaries/compensation - e. g. nothing higher than any dean....

A lot more, but beyond ng my (somewhat intoxicated) scope tonite!

Irish27 wrote:https://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketb ... d-arizona/

He has no fucking sources.

Chicat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:To your credit we were literally one holding on to a 22 point lead vs ASU away from 3rd.

So utterly pathetic.

Think of where our heads and hopes were at back in November. We were talking about a Pac title and a deep tourney run. This team greatly underachieved.

Why bother living in the past?

Oh you're right. It's just that my best feelings associated with AZ hoops are mainly in the past right now, man. Like, the distant past.

Beachcat97 wrote:

Chicat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:To your credit we were literally one holding on to a 22 point lead vs ASU away from 3rd.

So utterly pathetic.

Think of where our heads and hopes were at back in November. We were talking about a Pac title and a deep tourney run. This team greatly underachieved.

Why bother living in the past?

Oh you're right. It's just that my best feelings associated with AZ hoops are mainly in the past right now, man. Like, the distant past.

“Don’t worry. Be happy.”

- Bobby Kennedy

Chicat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

Chicat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:To your credit we were literally one holding on to a 22 point lead vs ASU away from 3rd.

So utterly pathetic.

Think of where our heads and hopes were at back in November. We were talking about a Pac title and a deep tourney run. This team greatly underachieved.

Why bother living in the past?

Oh you're right. It's just that my best feelings associated with AZ hoops are mainly in the past right now, man. Like, the distant past.

“Don’t worry. Be happy.”

- Bobby Kennedy

""Simon says championship" - Billy Packer""

- Beachcat97

UAEebs86 wrote:

Where's the Dukie V outrage? Will he call out Pitino to be banned from coaching college BB ever again?

Well I’ve watched up to the part where they try to flip Dawkins.
It seems like they gloss over what Dawkins was doing before he tried to start LOYD.
They make it seem like he just became friends with everyone and that’s how he influenced the kids. Only when FBI shows up does he talk about paying coaches.

At this point the UA administrations primary goal should be (and should have been in the spring of 2018) to get us past this mess as quickly as possible and put it in the rear view mirror.

The NCAA is going to drop the hammer on us sometime in the next few months. The UA should move heaven and earth to respond to the charges as QUICKLY as possible.......God forbid we spend 3 months arguing about it. The last thing the UA needs is for the NCAA findings to be revealed in June and then not respond until September, at which point the inevitable sanctions won't hit until the following year (2021-2022). That would only serve to butcher another recruiting class while the UA continues to suffer the death of a thousand cuts at the hands of the media (ESPN).

Our goal should be to respond quickly, and hope the NCAA sanctions us for the 2020-2021 year. That way Miller, or whomever replaces him, will be able to recruit with a clean slate and some certainty. Serving the sanctions in 2020/2021 would be preferable anyway, as its looking increasingly likely that we will not be fielding an NCAA competitive tournament team next year anyway.

The absolutely worst thing we could do would be to litigate the impending sanctions in court....in which case the agony will only be dragged out even further as the US court system rarely moves quickly.

dmjcat wrote:At this point the UA administrations primary goal should be (and should have been in the spring of 2018) to get us past this mess as quickly as possible and put it in the rear view mirror.

The NCAA is going to drop the hammer on us sometime in the next few months. The UA should move heaven and earth to respond to the charges as QUICKLY as possible.......God forbid we spend 3 months arguing about it. The last thing the UA needs is for the NCAA findings to be revealed in June and then not respond until September, at which point the inevitable sanctions won't hit until the following year (2021-2022). That would only serve to butcher another recruiting class while the UA continues to suffer the death of a thousand cuts at the hands of the media (ESPN).

Our goal should be to respond quickly, and hope the NCAA sanctions us for the 2020-2021 year. That way Miller, or whomever replaces him, will be able to recruit with a clean slate and some certainty. Serving the sanctions in 2020/2021 would be preferable anyway, as its looking increasingly likely that we will not be fielding an NCAA competitive tournament team next year anyway.

The absolutely worst thing we could do would be to litigate the impending sanctions in court....in which case the agony will only be dragged out even further as the US court system rarely moves quickly.

Meanwhile in other FBI related news Auburn just landed a 4 star recruit.

Give it a rest.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:At this point the UA administrations primary goal should be (and should have been in the spring of 2018) to get us past this mess as quickly as possible and put it in the rear view mirror.

The NCAA is going to drop the hammer on us sometime in the next few months. The UA should move heaven and earth to respond to the charges as QUICKLY as possible.......God forbid we spend 3 months arguing about it. The last thing the UA needs is for the NCAA findings to be revealed in June and then not respond until September, at which point the inevitable sanctions won't hit until the following year (2021-2022). That would only serve to butcher another recruiting class while the UA continues to suffer the death of a thousand cuts at the hands of the media (ESPN).

Our goal should be to respond quickly, and hope the NCAA sanctions us for the 2020-2021 year. That way Miller, or whomever replaces him, will be able to recruit with a clean slate and some certainty. Serving the sanctions in 2020/2021 would be preferable anyway, as its looking increasingly likely that we will not be fielding an NCAA competitive tournament team next year anyway.

The absolutely worst thing we could do would be to litigate the impending sanctions in court....in which case the agony will only be dragged out even further as the US court system rarely moves quickly.

Meanwhile in other FBI related news Auburn just landed a 4 star recruit.

Give it a rest.

Meanwhile we are losing recruits to Stanford. At this point only a blithering idiot would make the case that the NCAA mess is not hurting us.

Give it a rest yourself.

Fuck ESPN

They made us keep Miller

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:At this point the UA administrations primary goal should be (and should have been in the spring of 2018) to get us past this mess as quickly as possible and put it in the rear view mirror.

The NCAA is going to drop the hammer on us sometime in the next few months. The UA should move heaven and earth to respond to the charges as QUICKLY as possible.......God forbid we spend 3 months arguing about it. The last thing the UA needs is for the NCAA findings to be revealed in June and then not respond until September, at which point the inevitable sanctions won't hit until the following year (2021-2022). That would only serve to butcher another recruiting class while the UA continues to suffer the death of a thousand cuts at the hands of the media (ESPN).

Our goal should be to respond quickly, and hope the NCAA sanctions us for the 2020-2021 year. That way Miller, or whomever replaces him, will be able to recruit with a clean slate and some certainty. Serving the sanctions in 2020/2021 would be preferable anyway, as its looking increasingly likely that we will not be fielding an NCAA competitive tournament team next year anyway.

The absolutely worst thing we could do would be to litigate the impending sanctions in court....in which case the agony will only be dragged out even further as the US court system rarely moves quickly.

Meanwhile in other FBI related news Auburn just landed a 4 star recruit.

Give it a rest.

Meanwhile we are losing recruits to Stanford. At this point only a blithering idiot would make the case that the NCAA mess is not hurting us.

Give it a rest yourself.

So the idea you’ve got lodged in your head here is that Ziaire was considering both UA and USC and only now realized both programs have been under the cloud of an NCAA investigation for the past two and a half years?

You’re a funny one.

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:At this point the UA administrations primary goal should be (and should have been in the spring of 2018) to get us past this mess as quickly as possible and put it in the rear view mirror.

The NCAA is going to drop the hammer on us sometime in the next few months. The UA should move heaven and earth to respond to the charges as QUICKLY as possible.......God forbid we spend 3 months arguing about it. The last thing the UA needs is for the NCAA findings to be revealed in June and then not respond until September, at which point the inevitable sanctions won't hit until the following year (2021-2022). That would only serve to butcher another recruiting class while the UA continues to suffer the death of a thousand cuts at the hands of the media (ESPN).

Our goal should be to respond quickly, and hope the NCAA sanctions us for the 2020-2021 year. That way Miller, or whomever replaces him, will be able to recruit with a clean slate and some certainty. Serving the sanctions in 2020/2021 would be preferable anyway, as its looking increasingly likely that we will not be fielding an NCAA competitive tournament team next year anyway.

The absolutely worst thing we could do would be to litigate the impending sanctions in court....in which case the agony will only be dragged out even further as the US court system rarely moves quickly.

Meanwhile in other FBI related news Auburn just landed a 4 star recruit.

Give it a rest.

Meanwhile we are losing recruits to Stanford. At this point only a blithering idiot would make the case that the NCAA mess is not hurting us.

Give it a rest yourself.

Yes, because all recruitments are black and white. A top 5 player in his class chose Stanford over a myriad of high major offers and you see that as an Arizona problem somehow.

Blithering idiot you are indeed.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:At this point the UA administrations primary goal should be (and should have been in the spring of 2018) to get us past this mess as quickly as possible and put it in the rear view mirror.

The NCAA is going to drop the hammer on us sometime in the next few months. The UA should move heaven and earth to respond to the charges as QUICKLY as possible.......God forbid we spend 3 months arguing about it. The last thing the UA needs is for the NCAA findings to be revealed in June and then not respond until September, at which point the inevitable sanctions won't hit until the following year (2021-2022). That would only serve to butcher another recruiting class while the UA continues to suffer the death of a thousand cuts at the hands of the media (ESPN).

Our goal should be to respond quickly, and hope the NCAA sanctions us for the 2020-2021 year. That way Miller, or whomever replaces him, will be able to recruit with a clean slate and some certainty. Serving the sanctions in 2020/2021 would be preferable anyway, as its looking increasingly likely that we will not be fielding an NCAA competitive tournament team next year anyway.

The absolutely worst thing we could do would be to litigate the impending sanctions in court....in which case the agony will only be dragged out even further as the US court system rarely moves quickly.

Meanwhile in other FBI related news Auburn just landed a 4 star recruit.

Give it a rest.

Meanwhile we are losing recruits to Stanford. At this point only a blithering idiot would make the case that the NCAA mess is not hurting us.

Give it a rest yourself.

Yes, because all recruitments are black and white. A top 5 player in his class chose Stanford over a myriad of high major offers and you see that as an Arizona problem somehow.

Blithering idiot you are indeed.

Denial is NOT as a river in Egypt. If you wish to keep sticking your head in a very dark place and ignoring reality, go ahead.

The pending NCAA sanctions are very definitely negatively impacting our recruiting.

RondaeShimmy wrote:Fuck ESPN

They made us keep Miller

No. F**k Book Richardson and F**k Miller for having anything to do with Book Richardson

Like it or not we gave ESPN the ammunition to use against us.

dmjcat wrote:
Denial is NOT as a river in Egypt. If you wish to keep sticking your head in a very dark place and ignoring reality, go ahead.

The pending NCAA sanctions are very definitely negatively impacting our recruiting.

Yup, it's only affecting us and nobody else.

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:
Denial is NOT as a river in Egypt. If you wish to keep sticking your head in a very dark place and ignoring reality, go ahead.

The pending NCAA sanctions are very definitely negatively impacting our recruiting.

Yup, it's only affecting us and nobody else.

You got one thing right there.........its affecting us. Maybe there is hope for you after all.

Bless your heart

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:
Denial is NOT as a river in Egypt. If you wish to keep sticking your head in a very dark place and ignoring reality, go ahead.

The pending NCAA sanctions are very definitely negatively impacting our recruiting.

Yup, it's only affecting us and nobody else.

You got one thing right there.........its affecting us. Maybe there is hope for you after all.

Yeah....now explain the three one and done's we got last year and you have a point. Other then that...…..

If I was a recruit with only one year to play and Stanford allowed me to continue my education there after playing I would take it in a minute.

Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

Huh?

Yeah, we really struck out last year.

Can someone find this guy a brain? Check Amazon or eBay.

TheCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:
Denial is NOT as a river in Egypt. If you wish to keep sticking your head in a very dark place and ignoring reality, go ahead.

The pending NCAA sanctions are very definitely negatively impacting our recruiting.

Yup, it's only affecting us and nobody else.

You got one thing right there.........its affecting us. Maybe there is hope for you after all.

Yeah....now explain the three one and done's we got last year and you have a point. Other then that...…..

If I was a recruit with only one year to play and Stanford allowed me to continue my education there after playing I would take it in a minute.

Easy, all three OAD's knew that they were fleeing to the league after the season and when they signed they all knew the NCAA sanctions were at least 2 years away.

Fast forward to 2020 and the present recruits can't be sure that the NCAA won't drop the hammer before next year.

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

You haven't been paying attention. Book wasn't dropping bags of cash, the agents and shoe companies were............and probably still are.

Get a clue.

Chicat wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

Huh?

Yeah, we really struck out last year.

Can someone find this guy a brain? Check Amazon or eBay.

Book did say in the wiretaps that Miller pays guys out of his own pocket (referring to Ayton), and he undoubtedly can get his hands on mountains of cash still so he's probably still getting it done just not as consistently. Never underestimate the lengths a rich crook will go to further enrich himself!

The crazy thing is if Miller spent half the time he used running crooked recruiting schemes and put it into watching youtube videos on how to run an offense he would actually improve as a coach!

RiseAndFire wrote:

Chicat wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

Huh?

Yeah, we really struck out last year.

Can someone find this guy a brain? Check Amazon or eBay.

Book did say in the wiretaps that Miller pays guys out of his own pocket...!

What is Miller down with the Hawala or do you just not have a very clear idea how western banking works?

SCCats wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:

Chicat wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

Huh?

Yeah, we really struck out last year.

Can someone find this guy a brain? Check Amazon or eBay.

Book did say in the wiretaps that Miller pays guys out of his own pocket...!

What is Miller down with the Hawala or do you just not have a very clear idea how western banking works?

I would love to hear how Rise&Fail thinks Miller’s system for paying these kids thousands in cash monthly works. And works so well and so secretly that the Federal Government could not find any trace of it.

Are we still under the assumption that Miller knew Book was going down before it happened? When did that recorded call with Dawkins/CSM take place?

I also found it very interesting that Dawkins says he knows the grad transfers. That has been our go-to the past few seasons...

RiseAndFire wrote:

Chicat wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

Huh?

Yeah, we really struck out last year.

Can someone find this guy a brain? Check Amazon or eBay.

Book did say in the wiretaps that Miller pays guys out of his own pocket (referring to Ayton), and he undoubtedly can get his hands on mountains of cash still so he's probably still getting it done just not as consistently. Never underestimate the lengths a rich crook will go to further enrich himself!

The crazy thing is if Miller spent half the time he used running crooked recruiting schemes and put it into watching youtube videos on how to run an offense he would actually improve as a coach!

You believe that? You're an idiot. They have had his bank records for two years. If the Feds had any info this was true it would have meant indictment and trial....try again. Better yet...don't.

RiseAndFire wrote:

Chicat wrote:

RiseAndFire wrote:Another year misfiring on recruits for Miller. Ive got a theory, hear me out - what if this all has something to do with not having Book on staff delivering mountains CASH to the big 5* recruits like Alkins, Jelly fam guy, and Ayton ?? Nah probably not. Welp, time for another contract extension!

Huh?

Yeah, we really struck out last year.

Can someone find this guy a brain? Check Amazon or eBay.

Book did say in the wiretaps that Miller pays guys out of his own pocket (referring to Ayton), and he undoubtedly can get his hands on mountains of cash still so he's probably still getting it done just not as consistently. Never underestimate the lengths a rich crook will go to further enrich himself!

The crazy thing is if Miller spent half the time he used running crooked recruiting schemes and put it into watching youtube videos on how to run an offense he would actually improve as a coach!

You can’t be this stupid.
However, your track record on this board suggests you might be.

Might be? That motherfucker is the kid at the back of the short bus licking the windows.

Louisville received their NOA, waiting for details to come out still.

We're next most likely

Hopefully it's soon, get this out of the way

Nothing from Dicky V? Shocker.

Nothing from Bilas either. Shocker.

If it’s not Sean Miller getting bent over a barrel, Bilas and DukieV can’t get hard.

Chicat wrote:If it’s not Sean Miller getting bent over a barrel, Bilas and DukieV can’t get hard.

lmao

extra frisky today - luv it

No evidence that Arizona did any of that.
Closest thing was quinerly and he has been cleared.

Am I missing something?

Postmaster wrote:No evidence that Arizona did any of that.
Closest thing was quinerly and he has been cleared.

Am I missing something?

Book stuff he pleaded guilty to. Like other schools like OK St who already received theirs, that's a Level 1 infraction.

Arizona will receive that at minimum. It's the other stuff that we don't know what the NCAA will do.

There might be some kind of "failure to promote atmosphere of compliance" level 2 for the program and Miller, but again we don't know for sure.

azgreg wrote:Nothing from Dicky V? Shocker.

Oh Dick....

RondaeShimmy wrote:

azgreg wrote:Nothing from Dicky V? Shocker.

Dear Dick:

When Louisville gets put on two years probation get scholarships reduced by 2-3 during the same time period , please try hard not to cry and Twitters at the same time.

Signed,

Everyone in the Nation excluding ESPN (Bilas) and You

Trying to get caught up. So are we to understand that AZ's infractions are less severe (ie: likely to receive lighter penalties) than Louisville's?

Beachcat97 wrote:Trying to get caught up. So are we to understand that AZ's infractions are less severe (ie: likely to receive lighter penalties) than Louisville's?

They fucking better be.

But who knows?

So what’s the read here? We have not received a letter. Are they saving the best (or worst) for last? Are they having a hard time trying to make something more stick?

Chicat wrote:

Beachcat97 wrote:Trying to get caught up. So are we to understand that AZ's infractions are less severe (ie: likely to receive lighter penalties) than Louisville's?

They fucking better be.

But who knows?

Thanks, Chi. Like everyone else, I'm just ready for the other shoe to fucking drop. Need to put a period at the end of this sentence.

Are the Louisville violations all after the Pitino hookers and blow stuff?