Bear Down Wildcats

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:10 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

If he can win back Spiff, then it would be a miracle

He gets Robbins and Heeke fired and he can have me.

Was listening to the Rich Herrera show today (gross), and they had on a Gonzaga reporter/writer on there saying he's heard a lot of talk of Fanbo Zeng following Tommy here. Anyone heard anything about that? Fanbo is one hell of a player and would be a great addition

zonagrad wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:12 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

Which tells me Robbins' decision to fire Miller had nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with on court results and the trajectory of the program. It was all about ego.

Having said that -- Lloyd deserves fan support and I think he'll get it. In fact, I think most, not all fans, get it: They support the basketball program and the current coach, players, staff, etc...
And they know that Robbins and Heeke are trash.

Thank you for this because it struck me. It’s pretty darn close to the same team and staff except Robbins said “fuck you Sean, you’re not welcome.”

Robbins is such a colossal prick.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:20 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:10 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

If he can win back Spiff, then it would be a miracle

He gets Robbins and Heeke fired and he can have me.

Spiff they’re gonna be so successful that Robbins and Heke get hired off by bigger programs and we get you back on board.

The rarest: the win-win-win-win.

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:11 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:20 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:10 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:08 pm Kerr and Jet staying is great news.
CTL appears to want to build on Miller’s legacy instead of replace it. Best scenario to heal our wounds and get everyone excited about Arizona basketball again.

Which is the way it’s supposed to be.

If he can win back Spiff, then it would be a miracle

He gets Robbins and Heeke fired and he can have me.

Spiff they’re gonna be so successful that Robbins and Heke get hired off by bigger programs and we get you back on board.

The rarest: the win-win-win-win.

Look, if Lloyd plants incriminating evidence on the work computers of Robbins and Heeke and gets them fired, I'll accept that he is the type of genius to lead Arizona into a new age.

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

I’ll be happy when you tell me Mathurin is locked in

NBA is going to remain a threat until the very end.

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:03 pm Was listening to the Rich Herrera show today (gross), and they had on a Gonzaga reporter/writer on there saying he's heard a lot of talk of Fanbo Zeng following Tommy here. Anyone heard anything about that? Fanbo is one hell of a player and would be a great addition

Gonna have to beat the entire country of China to land him. It’s definitely possible.

Oh my. We actually got a shot at Fanbo... That kid is a stud. I was reading when he was being recruited he didn't talk to any coaches but Lloyd and never visited the Gonzaga campus. Hard to believe he goes there. Probably between here and staying in China with a slight lean to stay in China. We get Fanbo and Zeng and this class turned out very nice

During a daydream next to the gold cart parked outside McKale on Lloyd's first day on the job, he walked out with Robbins and Heeke, and they all got in the golf car. I told him, "Wildcat Nation is behind you." And then I pointed at Robbins and Heeke and said to him, "So you're their boss now. Don't ever forget it." Then I snapped out of the daydream and stopped talking to the empty golf cart. I hope nobody saw.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:23 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

I’ll be happy when you tell me Mathurin is locked in

NBA is going to remain a threat until the very end.

Someone's going to give him a second round promise/he'd get picked in the second round, right? Is the question just does he take that or not or is there more/something different to it?

SCCats wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:09 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:23 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

I’ll be happy when you tell me Mathurin is locked in

NBA is going to remain a threat until the very end.

Someone's going to give him a second round promise/he'd get picked in the second round, right? Is the question just does he take that or not or is there more/something different to it?

He's probably a 2nd rounder this year with potential to move up based on predraft workouts/measurements. The question is more about pushing to go in the 1st if he returns.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:23 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

I’ll be happy when you tell me Mathurin is locked in

NBA is going to remain a threat until the very end.

So I wake up May 31st and he’s in Tucson, and I’m happy.

SCCats wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:09 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:23 pm

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:29 pm Good stuff all around is happening guys.

I’ll be happy when you tell me Mathurin is locked in

NBA is going to remain a threat until the very end.

Someone's going to give him a second round promise/he'd get picked in the second round, right? Is the question just does he take that or not or is there more/something different to it?

He’d definitely be picked in the 2nd round regardless of a promise. It’s just up to him if he wants to be a 2nd rounder now or play in an offense more suited for him that could propel him into the 1st round later.

I've heard some schools are dropping some major bags to people around Mathurin.

If that’s true then the people/schools should be named and discussed. Hell, let’s talk about wires and what was said on the phone...allegedly of course.

If that's true Lloyd better stomp that shit down. Gotta be a way to report that stuff

Quoting Spaceman Spiff (deleted the wrong part, sorry)

Look, if Lloyd plants incriminating evidence on the work computers of Robbins and Heeke and gets them fired, I'll accept that he is the type of genius to lead Arizona into a new age.





This would make him the ultimate witch.

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:26 pm If that’s true then the people/schools should be named and discussed. Hell, let’s talk about wires and what was said on the phone...allegedly of course.

I'm not sure any school recruiting top players wants that. No one's clean, so you start outing people and it comes right back.

And we're probably in more trouble to begin with than anyone we could out.

Postmaster wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:38 pm Anyone know anything about Iowa guard that just entered portal.
Near 45% 3pt but only scored 7.5 ppg.

I believe he is a strong Kentucky lean and has been since he even entered the portal.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:11 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:26 pm If that’s true then the people/schools should be named and discussed. Hell, let’s talk about wires and what was said on the phone...allegedly of course.

I'm not sure any school recruiting top players wants that. No one's clean, so you start outing people and it comes right back.

And we're probably in more trouble to begin with than anyone we could out.

In 2017 I was in favor of burning the whole thing down.

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:43 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:11 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:26 pm If that’s true then the people/schools should be named and discussed. Hell, let’s talk about wires and what was said on the phone...allegedly of course.

I'm not sure any school recruiting top players wants that. No one's clean, so you start outing people and it comes right back.

And we're probably in more trouble to begin with than anyone we could out.

In 2017 I was in favor of burning the whole thing down.

I'd like to put it in the open. Drop the prohibition on earning from likeness and let it happen.

It's been said a million times the offers don't really change. Top programs offer what they're gonna, and the odd part is that actual recruiting wins because the money is the same.

So, let it happen and don't be shy.

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:21 pm I've heard some schools are dropping some major bags to people around Mathurin.

It’s tampering season yall.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:00 am

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:21 pm I've heard some schools are dropping some major bags to people around Mathurin.

It’s tampering season yall.

That doesn't sound good.

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:31 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:00 am

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:21 pm I've heard some schools are dropping some major bags to people around Mathurin.

It’s tampering season yall.

That doesn't sound good.

I’m just speaking in general. Nothing having to do with Arizona specifically, although plenty of outside force are working on Benn.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:06 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:31 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:00 am

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:21 pm I've heard some schools are dropping some major bags to people around Mathurin.

It’s tampering season yall.

That doesn't sound good.

I’m just speaking in general. Nothing having to do with Arizona specifically, although plenty of outside force are working on Benn.

In that case, I agree. This is clearly the wild wild west with every player, whether in the portal or not, being treated as a free agent being contacted by anyone who thinks they have a better offer, but gets no pay (on paper).

I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

What does the NCAA expect with the transfer free for all?

6:30 am poured a bowl of cereal then read the box, transferred to a different university, and then biked to the Circle K to get some gasoline and matches for the neighbor's trash can

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:19 pm I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

This is the shit the NCAA should investigate. What if Benn Mathurin handed his cell phone over the NCAA and there were some phone messages from Dana Altman? I'm more comfortable with paying players than poaching players from someone else's roster.

zonagrad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:59 am

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:19 pm I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

This is the shit the NCAA should investigate. What if Benn Mathurin handed his cell phone over the NCAA and there were some phone messages from Dana Altman? I'm more comfortable with paying players than poaching players from someone else's roster.

It wouldn't be from Altman.... it would be from Altman's guy.... Altman is clean remember...

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:29 am

zonagrad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:59 am

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:19 pm I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

This is the shit the NCAA should investigate. What if Benn Mathurin handed his cell phone over the NCAA and there were some phone messages from Dana Altman? I'm more comfortable with paying players than poaching players from someone else's roster.

It wouldn't be from Altman.... it would be from Altman's guy.... Altman is clean remember...

Right. The good ones know how to apply plausible deniability.

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:19 pm I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

It's not just our roster this is happening to. It is all over the board whether you had a coaching change or not. Everyone is viewed as fair game thanks to this rule.

zonagrad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:59 am

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:19 pm I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

This is the shit the NCAA should investigate. What if Benn Mathurin handed his cell phone over the NCAA and there were some phone messages from Dana Altman? I'm more comfortable with paying players than poaching players from someone else's roster.

The NCAA isn’t going to investigate in any thing unless the FBI forces their hand. Btw in the theoretical world where Arizona doesn’t land Tyty and doesn’t like any transfer portal PGs, someone on the behalf of Arizona (not employed by Arizona) should be reaching out to “unavailable” options. I don’t love it, but god dammit that’s the game. To his credit Lloyd has done a great job fighting against the game in keeping his roster intact. His job isn’t done yet in that matter though.

Speaking of transfer PGs, Akinjo is Baylor bound.

Was Lloyd trying to bring Akinjo back? He doesn’t seem like the best fit for what Lloyd will run

Saw that on Twitter a second or so ago. Sad to see him go but best of luck

azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:24 am Was Lloyd trying to bring Akinjo back? He doesn’t seem like the best fit for what Lloyd will run

Lloyd could’ve done the best sell job in the world and Akinjo was always leaving. He was loyal to Miller first and Peters second. It wasn’t worth putting up the fight and he was already in contact with Tyty before he even officially got the job.

With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:37 am With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

He was never going there anyways.

It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:39 am

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:37 am With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

He was never going there anyways.

It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

If a head coach with zero head coaching experience could edge out Kansas and Kentucky for a top recruit in his 1st year.... this guy might have something

Still can't figure out how Akinjo does not have to sit out a year. The rules are very clear, the free transfer year only applies to those who are not prior transfer students.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/me ... mmediately

Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:43 am Still can't figure out how Akinjo does not have to sit out a year. The rules are very clear, the free transfer year only applies to those who are not prior transfer students.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/me ... mmediately

Good point. Maybe because Miller was let go, they will let him play immediately.

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:41 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:39 am

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:37 am With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

He was never going there anyways.

It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

If a head coach with zero head coaching experience could edge out Kansas and Kentucky for a top recruit in his 1st year.... this guy might have something

Situation matters too. He’s handed the keys from day one at Arizona, it’s an hour and a half drive from home, the team will be very good still, and the name Arizona still means plenty. Lloyd will deserve a ton of credit of course, but the situation for Tyty here is extremely favorable to Arizona's chances and there’s still a chance that it may not be enough.

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:49 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:43 am Still can't figure out how Akinjo does not have to sit out a year. The rules are very clear, the free transfer year only applies to those who are not prior transfer students.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/me ... mmediately

Good point. Maybe because Miller was let go, they will let him play immediately.

The NCAA's loose with waivers. It would shock me if Akinjo didn't get one

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:49 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:41 am It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

If a head coach with zero head coaching experience could edge out Kansas and Kentucky for a top recruit in his 1st year.... this guy might have something

Situation matters too. He’s handed the keys from day one at Arizona, it’s an hour and a half drive from home, the team will be very good still, and the name Arizona still means plenty. Lloyd will deserve a ton of credit of course, but the situation for Tyty here is extremely favorable to Arizona's chances and there’s still a chance that it may not be enough.
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Plus, Miller had been recruiting Tyty to some extent already. That's not to take away from what Lloyd would have to do in terms of selling himself as a new HC, but it isn't a situation where he had to build from the ground up.

Murphy was his lead recruiter, so it really is just selling a new HC and pretty much everything else remains the same.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:12 am

zonagrad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:59 am

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:19 pm I’m not shocked there is tampering going on with our current roster. Let’s face it, with the attention the Miller firing got plus the circus perpetrated by dumb and dumber there was Arizona basketball blood in the water attracting all types of “sharks”.

This is the shit the NCAA should investigate. What if Benn Mathurin handed his cell phone over the NCAA and there were some phone messages from Dana Altman? I'm more comfortable with paying players than poaching players from someone else's roster.

The NCAA isn’t going to investigate in any thing unless the FBI forces their hand. Btw in the theoretical world where Arizona doesn’t land Tyty and doesn’t like any transfer portal PGs, someone on the behalf of Arizona (not employed by Arizona) should be reaching out to “unavailable” options. I don’t love it, but god dammit that’s the game. To his credit Lloyd has done a great job fighting against the game in keeping his roster intact. His job isn’t done yet in that matter though.

Yes, I was being facetious. I just hate the hypocrisy involving the NCAA. Good thing they brought the hammer down on UTEP football violations.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:39 am

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:37 am With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

He was never going there anyways.

It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

Haven't looked at KU and UK's rosters, but I would still think Tyty has a better chance for big minutes right away with us.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:42 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:39 am

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:37 am With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

He was never going there anyways.

It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

Haven't looked at KU and UK's rosters, but I would still think Tyty has a better chance for big minutes right away with us.

I believe Kentucky already has Hickman, another 5 star pg, and Kansas brought in a really transfer pg or two, plus another guy or two on their roster can play the point. Would think he'd have the most minutes and best opportunity to play big minutes here

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:42 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:39 am

Irish27 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:37 am With Akinjo going to Baylor, looks like TyTy won't be going there.

He was never going there anyways.

It’s Arizona, Kansas, or Kentucky.

Haven't looked at KU and UK's rosters, but I would still think Tyty has a better chance for big minutes right away with us.

"The very first time I talked to [Bill Self] he came in out of nowhere, 'So, you're the kid I'm giving the keys to run my program next year.' Ever since then we've just been talking. Before he hangs up he says, 'You know I want you and need you bad over here, TyTy.'"

https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/ ... 164370246/

Self saying he's giving him the keys next year if he goes to Kansas.